Johnny Gaudreau: 2015/16 expectations?

Igor Shestyorkin

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Johnny "let's see him do that in the NHL" Gaudreau

aka

Johnny "let's see him do that against REAL d-men" Gaudreau

aka

Johnny "let's see him do that all year" Gaudreau

aka

Johnny "let's see him do that again next year" Gaudreau

shall now be referred to as:

"Johnny "that's not even real hockey" Gaudreau.

More like

Johnny "I'm better than 3-on-3 OT hockey" Gaudreau.
 

Caged Great

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Who cares about rules bro. He's attending his 6th year in college and he's never been invited to camp because he's not good enough. :laugh:

If he wasn't headed to his final season in the NCAA, he would be in the NHL right now. He was that good back in July. He will be a good player this time next year. Might defend his national championship this year though.
 

Caged Great

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Johnny Gaudreau has half the goals and assists that he collected last year in 30 games. Only 6 players in the league have more than him and three of those are ahead by three points or fewer.

Not bad.
 

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If he wasn't headed to his final season in the NCAA, he would be in the NHL right now. He was that good back in July. He will be a good player this time next year. Might defend his national championship this year though.

I feel that Jankowski could unseat Monahan as Calgary's "big" go-to, all-situations centre. The thought of Bennett, Jankowski, and Gaudreau on the same power play unit makes me drool.
 

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With that assist tonight, Gaudreau ties the NHL record for most OT points in a single season. We're 30 games in.

Impressive, but with the way OT is now, many previous records will be broken in no time now.
 

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Meh, there's been seasons with 150 games decided in OT in the past.

This year there's been 77 games decided in OT so far. With game 463 being completed, the league is on a pace to see just under 205 games finish in OT.

55 more OT games is a substantial difference, but with 30 teams it works out to be just less than 2 extra games decided in OT.
 

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I feel that Jankowski could unseat Monahan as Calgary's "big" go-to, all-situations centre. The thought of Bennett, Jankowski, and Gaudreau on the same power play unit makes me drool.

Yeah, no. Monahan is and will be a better player than Mark Jankowski. And I'm a fan of his.

Is it just me or is there some sort of hate for Monahan on here lately? At the very least, I get the impression that people are disappointed in him this year. He was terrible for the first 10 games,yes, since then he's been fine.

Since the beginning of November:
18 GP, 16 points (8G, 8A), +6, 51.8% on the dot. Not bad for a 21 year old.
 

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With that assist tonight, Gaudreau ties the NHL record for most OT points in a single season. We're 30 games in.

It's amazing how good he is in OT. He knows exactly how to play it. So smart without the puck, his 3v3 defensive game is perfect, he just waits out the opposition until they shoot the puck wide or make an errant pass, and then he's off to the races.

I legitimately think he's had like maybe ~15 OT shifts. That means he's ending the game on ~50% of his OT shifts.

Also of note - he's now +6 on a team that's -24. Mark Giordano is -11.
 

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It's amazing how good he is in OT. He knows exactly how to play it. So smart without the puck, his 3v3 defensive game is perfect, he just waits out the opposition until they shoot the puck wide or make an errant pass, and then he's off to the races.

I legitimately think he's had like maybe ~15 OT shifts. That means he's ending the game on ~50% of his OT shifts.

Also of note - he's now +6 on a team that's -24. Mark Giordano is -11.

A lot of Calgary's goals against come on the pk and they cannot score on the pp. Since those don't affect +/-, you wouldn't expect an individual's +/- to be that bad. Most players are within 3 or 4 points of zero. Gaudreau has still been the best player on the team though.
 

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It's amazing how good he is in OT. He knows exactly how to play it. So smart without the puck, his 3v3 defensive game is perfect, he just waits out the opposition until they shoot the puck wide or make an errant pass, and then he's off to the races.

I legitimately think he's had like maybe ~15 OT shifts. That means he's ending the game on ~50% of his OT shifts.

Also of note - he's now +6 on a team that's -24. Mark Giordano is -11.
+/- is rarely "of note", it is one of the most worthless stats in the game, not to mention when you are comparing a defenseman that plays 24+ minutes a night. We get you love Gaudreau, but c'mon Whiskey, now that people aren't putting him down you are grasping at things to praise.
 

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+/- is rarely "of note", it is one of the most worthless stats in the game, not to mention when you are comparing a defenseman that plays 24+ minutes a night. We get you love Gaudreau, but c'mon Whiskey, now that people aren't putting him down you are grasping at things to praise.

+/- is worthless when you compare two players from different teams. Within the same team, on a team full of players with a -, being a + player is noteworthy.
 

Rangediddy

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+/- is worthless when you compare two players from different teams. Within the same team, on a team full of players with a -, being a + player is noteworthy.

This.

A couple seasons ago, Calgary lost to Boston 9-0. TJ Brodie had 25 minutes ice time and was even +/-! EVEN! If that doesn't tell you something...
 

DJJones

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This.

A couple seasons ago, Calgary lost to Boston 9-0. TJ Brodie had 25 minutes ice time and was even +/-! EVEN! If that doesn't tell you something...

That's amazing.

Just wish they had someway of assigning blame to a player that goes for a change at a bad time leading to a goal. Just ruins +/- for me.
 

SmellOfVictory

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Yeah, no. Monahan is and will be a better player than Mark Jankowski. And I'm a fan of his.

Is it just me or is there some sort of hate for Monahan on here lately? At the very least, I get the impression that people are disappointed in him this year. He was terrible for the first 10 games,yes, since then he's been fine.

Since the beginning of November:
18 GP, 16 points (8G, 8A), +6, 51.8% on the dot. Not bad for a 21 year old.

He's producing fine, but he's not improving as much as a lot of people would like to see from a defensive/possession standpoint. But then again, I think expectations became overblown when he far exceeded them last year.
 

DJJones

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He's producing fine, but he's not improving as much as a lot of people would like to see from a defensive/possession standpoint. But then again, I think expectations became overblown when he far exceeded them last year.

I could see Monahan having a relatively quiet career while also getting 30 goals a year for the next 10 years haha.

He doesn't stand out much until he scores and he can be very streaky at times.
 

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That's amazing.

Just wish they had someway of assigning blame to a player that goes for a change at a bad time leading to a goal. Just ruins +/- for me.

I don't think that's really been the case for Gio; he was really struggling at the start of the season. It's the coming back after a fairly major injury mixed with playing with Wide-Dog, playing with a Young Dougie who was trying to find his way still.

+/- isn't a stat that should be held like scripture, but it can be a piece of the puzzle for sure.
 

Volica

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He's producing fine, but he's not improving as much as a lot of people would like to see from a defensive/possession standpoint. But then again, I think expectations became overblown when he far exceeded them last year.

I think over the last 15-20 odd games or so, he's been really good at the dot and better defensively. We need that from him. We know his shot and positioning is world class; with how many goals and beauts the kid can score. He'll never be a Bergeron or Toews type center; but I do hope he continues to progress. I mean, he's really still just a kid, even though he's been in the NHL for 3 years already.
 

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+/- is rarely "of note", it is one of the most worthless stats in the game, not to mention when you are comparing a defenseman that plays 24+ minutes a night. We get you love Gaudreau, but c'mon Whiskey, now that people aren't putting him down you are grasping at things to praise.

Gaudreau plays 20+ mins/night and is +6 on a team that is collectively -24. That means that for the remaining 40 mins/game that he is not on the ice, the team is -30. Since they have played 30 games, this implies that while at ES (and without Gaudreau) the Flames get outscored by 1.5 goals per 60 mins.

The fact that he is a +6 on a team with that differential without him is indeed notable.
 

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