Post-Game Talk: John Tavares is a Toronto Maple Leaf.

[MattySnipes]

That was a helluva game. 1 game, but they need more of that going forward. No fans should have issues with the way they played. Effort, passion, and goals.

Samsonov stays perfect at the Vault.

Big one on Saturday.

 

[ACC1224]

Just a reminder that Matthews had more goals and points in 73gp last season than Rupp had in 600gp, riding the coat tails of legends.

Pretty silly comparison but a player that's played 600 games would have a pretty good idea on how this is viewed in the room and around the league.

 

[rocketman588]

Fine with him not fighting on the first brawl. He should have grabbed an outer flyer but whatever.

My big issue is the second fight start basically. Your team has already defended you there's no need to push koneckny again and then make them have to do it again. He was just jawing

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Pretty silly comparison but a player that's played 600 games would have a pretty good idea on how this is viewed in the room and around the league.

Would he? He barely last more than a year in most rooms.

Are you saying Patrik Elias would have been expected to scrum it up and fight everytime someone went after him? Just mindless.

See ya

 

[ToneDog]

Fine with him not fighting on the first brawl. He should have grabbed a flyer but whatever.

My big issue is the second fight start basically. Your team has already defended you there's no need to push koneckny again and then make them have to do it again. He was just jawing

Matty is 7' tall when Gio and Bunts come in but 5' tall when nobody is around to step in. And some people don't think players play bigger when there is somebody around to handle the dirty stuff.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Pretty silly comparison but a player that's played 600 games would have a pretty good idea on how this is viewed in the room and around the league.

That’s 600 more games than any of us have too.

 

[egd27]

I remain convinced that the majority of Leafs fans would rather have Tie Domi over Auston Matthews

Yea, because that's what people are posting.

 

[Warden of the North]

That's what you get from this?

Toronto loves it fighters and grinders. It has my entire life.

Keep Domi in place and replace Matthews with Sundin, Kessel, whichever skill player you want.

On a night where Matthews scores, JT has a hat trick, the team has a massive (in context) win, the main discussion here and in the media is Matthews not fighting someone.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Would he? He barely last more than a year in most rooms.

Are you saying Patrik Elias would have been expected to scrum it up and fight everytime someone went after him? Just mindless.

See ya

 

[ToneDog]

Now that is what I call a knockout answer to that post. Gretzky could not have set you up better. LOL.

 

[egd27]

So what’s the big takeaway here at the end of all of this? Our players are maxed out and perfect in the way they handle all situations. No room for growth at an individual level. The team is perfectly constructed to handle all game situations. No room for improvement. Just pure perfection. Next time let’s see what happens when there are 2x 6’3” guys intent on starting trouble.

I think you nailed it. Aside from the bad luck, this is a perfect hockey team.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Now that is what I call a knockout answer to that post. Gretzky could not have set you up better. LOL.

Elias even dropped them with Belak before Arnott jumped in.


Edit. And the Devils won the cup that year too.

 

[Dekes For Days]

So what’s the big takeaway here at the end of all of this? Our players are maxed out and perfect in the way they handle all situations. No room for growth at an individual level. The team is perfectly constructed to handle all game situations. No room for improvement. Just pure perfection.

No, it's not the pure hyperbole you turn to when you're shown to be wrong. Our players are not perfect. No player is. Our team is not perfect. No team is. Our players have room to grow. All players do. But we're not talking about them growing as hockey players. We're talking about them conforming to your personal, unrealistic preference of conduct in between play.

The big takeaway is that we had a dominant game that should make everybody happy, where we beat them in the underlying metrics as our bottom six woke up, we beat them on the scoreboard as our captain styled on them, and we beat them in the scrums as our player football tackled a guy to the ice. And yet our post-game thread is full of people complaining that the reigning Hart trophy winner - who not only got a goal and an assist, but did stand up for himself and cross check back - only did X and Y but not Z and you wanted to see Z in some meaningless scrum in a meaningless, already decided, early-season game where our players rushed in specifically to make sure Matthews wouldn't have to fight.

Maybe, just once, we could not desperately search for the next meaningless thing to be upset about, and just enjoy a good win.

 

[Nineteen67]

That was a helluva game. 1 game, but they need more of that going forward. No fans should have issues with the way they played. Effort, passion, and goals.

Samsonov stays perfect at the Vault.

Big one on Saturday.

They were better than Philly but they got 2 goals that they likely wouldn’t have scored with an NHL goalie in net.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

well god damn, he did fight!

Elias even dropped them with Belak before Arnott jumped in.


Edit. And the Devils won the cup that year too.

I will upvote any video with Wade Belak; Rest In Peace brother.

 

[ACC1224]

Would he? He barely last more than a year in most rooms.

Are you saying Patrik Elias would have been expected to scrum it up and fight everytime someone went after him? Just mindless.

See ya

If that's what you think people are saying you need some help with comprehension. Even in the video he says he doesn't need to fight.
People seem to have totally lost the plot over this.

No one wants Domi instead of Matthews, no one expects Matthews to break his hand over a guys head.
All people would like to see is that he get involved when necessary instead of watching.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Maybe, just once, we could not desperately search for the next meaningless thing to be upset about, and just enjoy a good win.

It really was a good win. It's amazing that there is more chatter about such a pointless moment compared to what I consider JT's best game in 3 years.

Tavares looked like OG Tavares, and if what we're seeing this season is what we can expect all year, that's a pretty huge development.

 

[Stephen]

I remain convinced that the majority of Leafs fans would rather have Tie Domi over Auston Matthews

The preference would Matthews AND Domi .

 

[ACC1224]

Toronto loves it fighters and grinders. It has my entire life.

Keep Domi in place and replace Matthews with Sundin, Kessel, whichever skill player you want.

On a night where Matthews scores, JT has a hat trick, the team has a massive (in context) win, the main discussion here and in the media is Matthews not fighting someone.

Yeah they played a great game. Nothing wrong with a little discussion to pass the work day.
You can certainly start a different discussion about last night.

For the record I hated Domi and before it's brought up, no one wants Colton Orr back either.

Mindless!!

I think you nailed it. Aside from the bad luck, this is a perfect hockey team.

 

[Gabriel426]

I think you nailed it. Aside from the bad luck, this is a perfect hockey team.

I miss Zeke with his Leafs being the expected Cup Champ due to stats.

 

[Stephen]

Would he? He barely last more than a year in most rooms.

Are you saying Patrik Elias would have been expected to scrum it up and fight everytime someone went after him? Just mindless.

See ya

The Elias to Matthews comparison could work if the GM surrounded Matthews with guys like Scott Stevens, Ken Daneyko, Randy McKay, Colin White and friends who could do all the face punching and protecting, but that didn’t happen.

Last night was Travis Konecny. If it was Kreider and Trouba, Bunting and Gio wouldn’t have cut it.

 

[Stephen]

No, it's not the pure hyperbole you turn to when you're shown to be wrong. Our players are not perfect. No player is. Our team is not perfect. No team is. Our players have room to grow. All players do. But we're not talking about them growing as hockey players. We're talking about them conforming to your personal, unrealistic preference of conduct in between play.

The big takeaway is that we had a dominant game that should make everybody happy, where we beat them in the underlying metrics as our bottom six woke up, we beat them on the scoreboard as our captain styled on them, and we beat them in the scrums as our player football tackled a guy to the ice. And yet our post-game thread is full of people complaining that the reigning Hart trophy winner - who not only got a goal and an assist, but did stand up for himself and cross check back - only did X and Y but not Z and you wanted to see Z in some meaningless scrum in a meaningless, already decided, early-season game where our players rushed in specifically to make sure Matthews wouldn't have to fight.

Maybe, just once, we could not desperately search for the next meaningless thing to be upset about, and just enjoy a good win.

Is our team perfect? Yes or no?

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

The Elias to Matthews comparison could work if the GM surrounded Matthews with guys like Scott Stevens, Ken Daneyko, Randy McKay, Colin White and friends who could do all the face punching and protecting, but that didn’t happen.

Last night was Travis Konecny. If it was Kreider and Trouba, Bunting and Gio wouldn’t have cut it.

I feel like I am done overanalyzing it. I think we need to add some guys to back Matthews up. I don't want him punching some clown. That's about where I stand now.

It's too bad it's taken all the shine off an otherwise good game by the team.

 

[Gabriel426]

Is our team perfect? Yes or no?

How dare you questions our perfect Leafs?
Have you seen any teams with as many 10mil plus players as us?
Have you seen any teams that LTIR their starting goalie who only our GM can manage to get after one game?
Have you seen any coaches retract their criticism regarding his elite players?
Have any teams lost to the Habs, Yokes, and Ducks this season?

Lol

 

[Dekes For Days]

Is our team perfect?

So I guess you just didn't bother to read the post you're replying to, where I said "Our team is not perfect. No team is.".