Player Discussion John-Michael Liles

[Pia8988]

Sounds like he'll be a noticable upgrade over either Kevan or Morrow. Gives Krug a chance to get back into a more offensive role as well.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Our D is still:

Chara


Krug

Everyone else. Even if he can adequately settle into our top 4 for the season I can't imagine how it would be enough to solve our D issues.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Anyone know if Liles can play the right-side, because the pieces sure fit better together if he can.

Chara - Liles
Krug - McQuaid
Morrow - Seidenberg

Liles can kill penalties, this much we know. So no need to play K.Miller as Claude would have his 4 PK D-men (33, 44, 54, and Liles).

He can also contribute on the PP. So leave Morrow on the 2nd unit and sub in Liles for Chara. Should allow for a more effective Chara now that he's not being asked to play both special teams.

But if he can only play the left side than it's a moot point. Morrow is clearly the one who will sit, rightly or wrongly.

If Liles plays how you describe he is getting 25 minutes per night. Top pairing, PP (he of 16? points), and PK? At 35 years of age?

 

[BruinDust]

If Liles plays how you describe he is getting 25 minutes per night. Top pairing, PP (he of 16? points), and PK? At 35 years of age?

Well they can keep him off the PP (Stempniak can reportedly play the point on the PP as well).

Hey it's not ideal, still a weak D corps.

But what are the options. If he can play the right side he's still a better option with 33 than 44, 54, or 86.

Just saying the fit is better if he can play RD as a lefty.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

If Liles plays how you describe he is getting 25 minutes per night. Top pairing, PP (he of 16? points), and PK? At 35 years of age?

Great skater, has been a top producing defenseman in the past, tons of experience...like Lidstrom 35 is probably this guys peak given he wasn't as good defensively 5-10 years ago as he is now.


Can you name a better D man who was traded this deadline?

 

[Brewins]

Well they can keep him off the PP (Stempniak can reportedly play the point on the PP as well).

Hey it's not ideal, still a weak D corps.

But what are the options. If he can play the right side he's still a better option with 33 than 44, 54, or 86.

Just saying the fit is better if he can play RD as a lefty.

Put pasta on the pp...

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Great skater, has been a top producing defenseman in the past, tons of experience...like Lidstrom 35 is probably this guys peak given he wasn't as good defensively 5-10 years ago as he is now.


Can you name a better D man who was traded this deadline?

Traded? No.

But there are about 14 teams not making the playoffs.

I'm not sure everyone on those rosters weren't untouchable.

I'm not a fan of rentals. If we could have gotten someone that we planned on having beyond this season would have been great. But woulda coulda shoulda.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Nice breakout followed by a slapshot goal here:

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Nice breakout followed by a slapshot goal here:

Nice, but that's from 50 months ago...

 

[Absurdity]

I hope Claude replaces him with Kevan Miller. Please Claude, just do it.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Looking at how Liles is used as compared to the current Bruins defensemen over the last 3 seasons:

Average powerplay time-on-ice per game

1. Krug = 2:42
2. Chara = 2:08
3. Liles = 2:03 with Carolina/Toronto

Average penalty kill time-on-ice per game

1. Chara = 3:07
2. K. Miller = 2:32
3. Seidenberg = 2:29
4. McQuaid = 2:05
5. Liles = 0:53 with Carolina/Toronto
6. Krug = 0:31

 

[GloveSave1]

Playoffs

Chara/Seidenberg
Liles/McQuaid
Krug/Miller
Trotman or some guy off waivers

You know it.

The top two pairs, while clunky, have a chance to be fairly solid. I really hope they stick Seids with the big man, Seids gets the best out of him. And the second pair, don't know, but they seem like a good compliment. Maybe real good, hunch.

Krug/Miller scares me. But that was bound to happen. Limit as much as possible.

That depth, man. The Bruins got nothing. Clode isn't throwing a guy like Morrow into the playoffs in a pinch. Come on. No way.

So...it's Trotman. Eek.

Hmmm. Anyone on waivers? Heh

 

[BruinDust]

Put pasta on the pp...

I agree Pasta should be on the PP, but were talking a point position on the PP, I don't think that's a spot Claude is putting Pasta anytime soon, nor should he

 

[BruinDust]

Playoffs

Chara/Seidenberg
Liles/McQuaid
Krug/Miller
Trotman or some guy off waivers

You know it.

The top two pairs, while clunky, have a chance to be fairly solid. I really hope they stick Seids with the big man, Seids gets the best out of him. And the second pair, don't know, but they seem like a good compliment. Maybe real good, hunch.

Krug/Miller scares me. But that was bound to happen. Limit as much as possible.

That depth, man. The Bruins got nothing. Clode isn't throwing a guy like Morrow into the playoffs in a pinch. Come on. No way.

So...it's Trotman. Eek.

Hmmm. Anyone on waivers? Heh

Seids and Chara was a great pair once upon a time, but that ship has sailed I think.

Why can't he use Morrow in the playoffs? It's not like K.Miller is loaded with playoff experience, even though your right it's most likely Miller over Morrow by Claude.

They can pick up guys on waivers all they want, any acquisitions they make are ineligible to play this season now that the deadline is over, so there's that.

 

[BruinsNeedaRussian]

Nice, but that's from 50 months ago...

Around the last time the Habs won a game

 

[wintersej]

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/article57980743.html

The system installed by Canes coach Bill Peters last season fits Liles’ playing style, allowing defensemen to jump into the play.

...

“He’s a real good pro, and he’s had a good year,†Peters said of Liles. “He’s been excellent with our young guys. He has a real good demeanor about him, on the bench and in the room, in practice. He’s very calm, very cerebral. And very accountable.
“He’s versatile. He can play the left side, the right side. You can match him up against the other team’s best players.â€

JML's GAA would rank 3rd on the Bruins and his shots allowed per 60 minutes would be 1st. His Corsi For% would also be first.

He has mostly played with a rookie, 21 year old defensive d-man Brett Pesce. JML gets about the same zone starts as Seidenberg, but with far greater success.

Curious how the pairings play out with both Seidenberg and JML options to play their offside.

 

[mmonty]

Around the last time the Habs won a game

Ahahaha. Owned.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

really can't complain about the Liles acquisition given that he's an upgrade over most of our D and cost a lot less than Kris Russell who is objectively inferior by every metric.

 

[BostonPC]

Playoffs

Chara/Seidenberg
Liles/McQuaid
Krug/Miller
Trotman or some guy off waivers

You know it.

The top two pairs, while clunky, have a chance to be fairly solid. I really hope they stick Seids with the big man, Seids gets the best out of him. And the second pair, don't know, but they seem like a good compliment. Maybe real good, hunch.

Krug/Miller scares me. But that was bound to happen. Limit as much as possible.

That depth, man. The Bruins got nothing. Clode isn't throwing a guy like Morrow into the playoffs in a pinch. Come on. No way.

So...it's Trotman. Eek.

Hmmm. Anyone on waivers? Heh

Same thought I had yesterday. Hopefully they can add some depth on D

 

[BruinDust]

Same thought I had yesterday. Hopefully they can add some depth on D

You guys do realize the deadline has passed. Any waiver claims can't play for Boston this season. That's it, who they got is who they got.

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

You guys do realize the deadline has passed. Any waiver claims can't play for Boston this season. That's it, who they got is who they got.

Except Chudinov.

No, really, I just hope Liles can play on the right side and get Kevan Miller out of the lineup.

 

[BruinDust]

Except Chudinov.

No, really, I just hope Liles can play on the right side and get Kevan Miller out of the lineup.

According to Bill Peters, he can play either side.

Whether that's the route Claude takes is another story.

But considering he can, the opportunity is there to give Chara a veteran partner who is a decent skater, which Claude needs to take advantage of.

 

[GloveSave1]

You guys do realize the deadline has passed. Any waiver claims can't play for Boston this season. That's it, who they got is who they got.

Oh, that stinks. Thought I remembered them picking up depth guys post deadline in the past, but I must be thinking baseball, oh well.

Why can't we play Morrow in a playoff enviornment?

Watch him play without the puck in his D zone next game. No contest. It's not that he's not good at it, he's non functional. He reminds me of a forward playing the defense position in his own zone. A gnat slightly nipping about the shoulders of puck carriers and a futile presense along the wall. Futile.

And we're talking right now, regular season...playoffs...where it's grind it out...wow...no chance.

Morrow does fine. Outside of his D zone. Once the puck is delivered to his stick. But that leaves a lot.

Keep growing him next season.

 

[Gee Wally]

You guys do realize the deadline has passed. Any waiver claims can't play for Boston this season. That's it, who they got is who they got.

I believe they can play but not in the playoffs.

 

[Dellstrom]

You guys do realize the deadline has passed. Any waiver claims can't play for Boston this season. That's it, who they got is who they got.

They absolutely can claim or trade for anyone they want... They could trade for Crosby and have him play the rest of the season. They just can't play them in the playoffs.

Happened in 2012 when Tuukka went down post-deadline and we signed Marty Turco to play a few games, since Khudobin (starter in Providence at the time) was hurt as well. As unspectacular as that went.