Player Discussion John Merrill: a.k.a. Joe Dirt, a.k.a. Letterkenny Extra Edition

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I also want to point out that me talking about Jon Merrill in the trade thread before it happened was NOT because I wanted him....but because he was known to be available and that's the type of player Bergevin wants....And I wasn't wrong...lol.

Again, Merrill is not a bad player. But you can't look at a hockeyk team by fillling it with not bad players. You need complementary players. You need everything. You need a mix. Merrill is bringing something we have in spades...and it's still not good enough. I mean, let say you put tons of mustard in a hot-dog....like A LOT.....and even if you like mustard, you feel it's way too much....will the hot-dog be better if you ADD more mustard?
You can never have too much mustard.
 
It trickles down. One of Chiarot-Ed should be next to Romanov.

Sure then Merrill is #7 and Kulak is two injuries away from getting in at #8. Is that a bad thing?

Or maybe Merrill shows he's better than Chiarot and Chiarot is our #7.
 
I think the funniest part is this dude's probably a better player than the two guys we're spending 7M combined on to play the same role lmao
Edmundson is +29, that is too good to be a total fluke. He's earning his money. Chiarot is not that bad either, if you don't expect a first-pairing guy out of him.
 
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Make no mistake Detroit is bad because their best players are bad. The MB defense army will hype this trade i'm 100% sure. Jordie Benn 2.0. BTW how is it working for perennial Norris Jordie Benn in Vancouver?
Leads the team in +/-, so he must be doing something right. ;)
 
Wait for what. Jon Merrill is 29 years old. He has almost 400 games of experience. Do you guys watch hockey outside of the Montreal Canadiens? Jon Merrill will be like all the others depth dmen MB got. He'll look guy considering the very low expectation of fans. Lot of fans will hype him to death. But at the end of the day he wont change anything when it comes to the end results of the team.
If having him on the ice instead of Mete prevents 90 second stretches hemmed in our own zone, he will have helped a lot.
 
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Edmundson is +29, that is too good to be a total fluke. He's earning his money. Chiarot is not that bad either, if you don't expect a first-pairing guy out of him.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Edmundson. He's a fine 2nd pairing guy. Chiarot is a decent second paring guy, the issue comes when they both get 1st pair minutes - especially with Weber who is starting to decline and Petry, who while amazing for us, has never proved he can be a #1 defenseman.

So the problem is, we have 4 second pairing guys and a bunch of 5-7 guys.

Hopefully Romanov develops into a top pairing guy, but wasting a ton of his rookie year with other players who shouldn't be in the NHL is not gonna be great for him.
 
Might be another trade with a dmen going the other way . I will reserve judgement till tomorrow

Mark my words, he’s DONE. Maybe a taxi squad level forward but ZERO impact players in the top 9 F or top 4 D group will be acquired. He’s riding with just this now
 
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Danault is +20 and was useless 90% of the season.
+/- means nothing.
Yes, if you put a guy in a role above his head.

Danault's season last year was fine for a middle-sixer, and Edmundson is fine as a second pair guy. That is what 3.0-3.5 Mil gets you - not a top line player, and it's not fair to require it at that salary.
 
If having him on the ice instead of Mete prevents 90 second stretches hemmed in our own zone, he will have helped a lot.

That's still not what this team is missing. This team is missing a top 3 dman (preferably a LH one) and a 1st line center. Everything else about that team is fine. And BTW those two holes have been the same for pretty much the entire MB regime. And MB doesn't have 5-6 years to find those. I would say 3-4 years at the best the window is closing slowly. I still predict MB will be caught flat footed in 3-4 years and be stuck with a bunch of vets whose value is not what it used to be and not enough kids to improve the team.
 
He's 23 with 10 points in 61 games career.

Merill is 10x the player he is. And Merill is just a solid 4-6 defenseman.

Yikes, Natey have you been drinking? ;)

A solid depth defenseman yes. If he's in our top 4, we're in deep doo-doo :)
 
This move frees up Kulak to be moved along others pieces to bring in a more offensive minded defenceman-which is really needed.
 
Yes, if you put a guy in a role above his head.

Danault's season last year was fine for a middle-sixer, and Edmundson is fine as a second pair guy. That is what 3.0-3.5 Mil gets you - not a top line player, and it's not fair to require it at that salary.
True but Edmundson is never used on late game while losing by 1 , was never in OT the 9 times we lost. Was pretty much on the ice for the 9 goals on the PK.
Like I said , I think you could put him as a Petry or Weber if he was there during late game scenarios. That's my opinion
 
Merrill is not a 4 on a winning team not even close. If he is 4 on your depth chart he is a hole other players have to cover.
"not even close"

Despite playing 140 games in 3 years for Vegas, which averages to more than half the season (especially with the cut season last year). In all of those seasons, he missed time, including a 20-game stint at one point.

So in reality, he was more like a #6 in Vegas, who was one of the best of teams in the league the past 3 seasons... but he can't be a 4 or 5 on a winning team? Bullshit.
 
lol. Merrill is not a second pairing d man.
Oh, really? Funny that I wrote 4-6 then, eh? Which would make him a 3rd pairing guy, who could sub in as a #4 in a pinch. Thanks for coming out.
 
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