Value of: John Gibson at the draft

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The Ducks are in a full on rebuild, that was made very clear this season when Manson, Rakell and Lindholm were traded at or near the deadline.

You have to wonder how John Gibson feels about that, is he OK going through a rebuild? and if he isn't and he does want to move on what could he get at the draft?

the market for goaltending going into the summer does seem rather limited

it's Edmonton, Toronto, Probably Buffalo /but I doubt he'd go there, maybe Vergas because Vegas is always in on everything.

But realistically it would appear to be Toronto, Edmonton and Buffalo.

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[Legion34]

Well he has a 10’team no trade list. Which according to Burke is generally.

Canada. Arizona buffalo and x

So those themselves may be unlikely. Gibson played an hr from Toronto as a teen and leafs are competitive So maybe.

Edmonton is in the west but in a weak division?

 

[bsu]

I would guess every Canadian team is on his NTC.

 

[Gliff]

Obviously Toronto and Edmonton make a ton of sense but that seems unlikely.

I would like to see him go to a contender like Colorado.
He only makes 3 mil more then kuemper. Maybe a deal involving EJ coming back to Anaheim?

 

[StreetHawk]

Question for Anaheim is whether they can continue their string of going from Giguere to Hiller to Andersen to Gibson. Is the next goalie right around the corner for them?

If not there may not be a major reason to move him unless he makes that request.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I'm sure Edmonton and Toronto are on his NTC 10 team list. He can also submit a new list before July 1st. I'd think he'd be beyond safe to leave Calgary and Vancouver off the list as with Markstrom and Demko they would have zero interest.

 

[Gliff]

Question for Anaheim is whether they can continue their string of going from Giguere to Hiller to Andersen to Gibson. Is the next goalie right around the corner for them?

If not there may not be a major reason to move him unless he makes that request.

Forgot Bryz also.

Ya the Ducks have basically had a string of legit #1 goalies for the last 20 years. And they have all come from different sources. Giggy was traded for, Bryz, Gibson, and Andersen were drafted by the Ducks, and Hiller was a Euro UFA.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Obviously Toronto and Edmonton make a ton of sense but that seems unlikely.

I would like to see him go to a contender like Colorado.
He only makes 3 mil more then kuemper. Maybe a deal involving EJ coming back to Anaheim?

I disagree that it seems unlikely, /in fact if Gibson does hit the market they would seem to be the 2 most likely destinations because they are the 2 that most need a legitimate starter.

In Toronto's case espically, because regardless of how the season ends, they could go out in round 1, win the cup or something in between it does not matter because regardless of how it ends, Marazek can not be back next year I don't care if he went on a magical run /and won the whole thing and won playoff MVP.

even if some Disney level shit like that did happen Marazek cannot be back next year so regardless Toronto will be looking for a goalie.

and Edmonton, well they have been in the market for a goalie for what seems like the past 3 years.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Obviously Toronto and Edmonton make a ton of sense but that seems unlikely.

I would like to see him go to a contender like Colorado.
He only makes 3 mil more then kuemper. Maybe a deal involving EJ coming back to Anaheim?

Colorado was my first thought also. Edmonton would have interest in Kuemper. We already tried for him.

 

[Gliff]

I disagree that it seems unlikely, /in fact if Gibson does hit the market they would seem to be the 2 most likely destinations because they are the 2 that most need a legitimate starter.

In Toronto's case espically, because regardless of how the season ends, they could go out in round 1, win the cup or something in between it does not matter because regardless of how it ends, Marazek can not be back next year I don't care if he went on a magical run /and won the whole thing and won playoff MVP.

even if some Disney level shit like that did happen Marazek cannot be back next year so regardless Toronto will be looking for a goalie.

and Edmonton, well they have been in the market for a goalie for what seems like the past 3 years.

10 team NTC. You have to assume Edmonton and Toronto are on it.

 

[GAGLine]

Are people expecting him to be dramatically better on another team than he has been in Anaheim the last 3 years?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

10 team NTC. You have to assume Edmonton and Toronto are on it.

Edmonton maybe because thy are on everybody's NTC list it seems but why Toronto? they are a v-ery vey good team, they just need a starter.

you can't just assume they are on his NTC because Canada

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Are people expecting him to be dramatically better on another team than he has been in Anaheim the last 3 years?

on a better team why wouldn't he?

 

[Chainshot]

Having played for Spott when he was in the NTDP, I wonder if he'd be interested in someone he knows in Vegas? That's if DeBoer and his assistants survive. Then again, Marty Wilford was an assistant at both the AHL and NHL levels with him and he's one of the Sabre assistants now. *shrug*

His numbers the last three seasons have been pretty tame compared with the three prior. That seems like a possible concern that he's sub .907 in the save percentage department on the regular now.

 

[Chainshot]

Edmonton maybe because thy are on everybody's NTC list it seems but why Toronto? they are a v-ery vey good team, they just need a starter.

you can't just assume they are on his NTC because Canada

Despite what we think about sun and fun or quality of team, some of these guys do seem movitaved by a desire to make the most money possible so they would avoid provinces or states with higher income taxes (all of Canada, NYS, California).

 

[AvStock]

I mean if Keumper shits the bed this playoff cycle then yeah I could see Colorado interest but what are the Ducks looking for?

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Are people expecting him to be dramatically better on another team than he has been in Anaheim the last 3 years?

Probably. Part of his deal is that he doesn't seem into it because the state of the team. I personally don't think its a coincidence his play fell off this year after Verbeek was hired. I suspect that might turn around if he were on a contender.

 

[StreetHawk]

Forgot Bryz also.

Ya the Ducks have basically had a string of legit #1 goalies for the last 20 years. And they have all come from different sources. Giggy was traded for, Bryz, Gibson, and Andersen were drafted by the Ducks, and Hiller was a Euro UFA.

Seemed like I was 1 G short. Knew there was someone between giguere to Hiller.

Something the ducks should not take for granted. Buffalo had Hasek then Miller from the mid 90’s to 2014 nearly 20 years. Have had nothing in the past 8 seasons.

If the next ducks goalie is close then ok then can pull the trigger. If not then I wouldn’t be so eager to do so. Can’t draft then drop a goalie into the lineup. It’s a 4/5 process for drafted kids to make it as a a backup first.

 

[ManByng]

Obviously Toronto and Edmonton make a ton of sense but that seems unlikely.

I would like to see him go to a contender like Colorado.
He only makes 3 mil more then kuemper. Maybe a deal involving EJ coming back to Anaheim?

As an Oiler fan I would love to see Gibson here! And yes they would be perfectly justified in asking for our 1st rounder and a good prospect in return! The Ducks though would have a hard time prying away the Oilers highly prized top prospects of Broberg, Holloway and Bourgault so that’s the fly in the oatmeal !

 

[GAGLine]

on a better team why wouldn't he?

Stolarz has much better numbers on the same team.

Maybe Gibson will be better on a new team, but that's a pretty big gamble at 6.4 mil for 5 more years.

 

[GAGLine]

Probably. Part of his deal is that he doesn't seem into it because the state of the team. I personally don't think its a coincidence his play fell off this year after Verbeek was hired. I suspect that might turn around if he were on a contender.

His numbers have been bad for 3 years now.

 

[Figgy44]

Hmm... I think the net that the Ducks could cast is far wider than the 3-4 mentioned in the OP.

I think it might be interesting if the Ducks retained and traded him for Raanta from the Canes. Andersen and Gibson reunited.

Teams that might make sense for a contention retool/push over the top: Boston, Caps, Wild, Preds, Canes and Avs.

Boston is a team that might need to make a few additional moves to retool other parts of the roster for Gibson to make sense though.

I'd be uncertain of these teams because of NTC and inter-divisional reasons: Toronto, Edmonton and VGK. That being said, I think these 3 would be the most likely to pay a significant premium over other teams to try and acquire Gibson.

Gibson makes 6.4 for 6 more years or something. At 50% retained, that's decent AAV even for a back up and Gibson is superior to back up calibre. Retaining the contract to 3.2-4 mil AAV per year for 6 years would suck, but the Ducks could potentially ask for some pretty insane pieces that could actually make it worthwhile to retain for that long.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

His numbers have been bad for 3 years now.

The Ducks being non competitive isn't exactly a recent development. The pattern was similar the last two years, hot start where he'd carry the teams in games they shouldn't be competitive and then he'd stop giving a shit. This year was a bit different, he was more inconsistent but picked it up when the team was rolling before he stopped giving a shit after the all-star break.

 

[McHelpus]

I would guess every Canadian team is on his NTC.

Of course they are, and the ducks will not get the value they want for him from american teams.

 

[bsu]

Of course they are, and the ducks will not get the value they want for him from american teams.

Lol how so?