Prospect Info: John Beecher signs ELC - 925K AAV

[Saxon Eric]

 

[Forester65]

The key takeaway from your post is that you had to go back 3 and 2 years respectively to show some positive offensive plays from the kid. That's the real issue. If he were actually skilled, they'd be more frequent and more recent clips to have picked from.

Don't forget he was hampered by injuries and had a college season ruined by COVID. That likely stalled his development and put a temporary end to his highlights. I'm hoping some reasonably good luck and injury-free progress gives us a solid contributor for the future.

 

[LSCII]

Don't forget he was hampered by injuries and had a college season ruined by COVID. That likely stalled his development and put a temporary end to his highlights. I'm hoping some reasonably good luck and injury-free progress gives us a solid contributor for the future.

Sure, all of that certainly impacted his development. And I'm not down on the player at all. I just think he's got work to do and isn't a player nearly ready to be inserted into this lineup. He's got stuff to work on, which is why he's in the right place in Providence. So lets leave him be and let him make strides in his game.

 

[ODAAT]

Sure, all of that certainly impacted his development. And I'm not down on the player at all. I just think he's got work to do and isn't a player nearly ready to be inserted into this lineup. He's got stuff to work on, which is why he's in the right place in Providence. So lets leave him be and let him make strides in his game.

agreed, he sure won`t supplant any of the 4 C`s with the big club right now and be considered a upgrade, let him learn the pro game, work on development in the AHL

 

[UConn126]

Is he playing at all this weekend?

 

[Dr Quincy]

There was no elite talent when he got there. His freshman team was not that good. The two years after, guys came in and passed him up. He's not a highly skilled player. He does however have traits that should hopefully make him a bottom 6 PK energy guy in the NHL and that's fine when you pick 30th.

Elite? IDK depends on your definition but it's crazy to say that Kaliyev, Brink, Sogaard, Hoglander, LaCombe, Afanaysev, Struble, Fagemo and Robertson (just for a few names) didn't/don't all have much much larger upside. Maybe (and it's a maybe) they have lower floors, but everyone knew Kaliyev and Brink had a lot larger offensive upside than Beecher. Everyone knew that Struble was a raw project that had some freakish raw skills.
It's totally revisionist to say that there was nobody available who had high upside talent.

 

[Over the volcano]

Boston had the next pick and went with Dwight Foster. . .

Elite? IDK depends on your definition but it's crazy to say that Kaliyev, Brink, Sogaard, Hoglander, LaCombe, Afanaysev, Struble, Fagemo and Robertson (just for a few names) didn't/don't all have much much larger upside. Maybe (and it's a maybe) they have lower floors, but everyone knew Kaliyev and Brink had a lot larger offensive upside than Beecher. Everyone knew that Struble was a raw project that had some freakish raw skills.
It's totally revisionist to say that there was nobody available who had high upside talent.

Maybe they were swung by the timeline of Bergeron/Krejci's careers and the need in the organization for big fast centers over more skilled smaller wings and other positions.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Elite? IDK depends on your definition but it's crazy to say that Kaliyev, Brink, Sogaard, Hoglander, LaCombe, Afanaysev, Struble, Fagemo and Robertson (just for a few names) didn't/don't all have much much larger upside. Maybe (and it's a maybe) they have lower floors, but everyone knew Kaliyev and Brink had a lot larger offensive upside than Beecher. Everyone knew that Struble was a raw project that had some freakish raw skills.
It's totally revisionist to say that there was nobody available who had high upside talent.

I meant at Michigan

 

[Blowfish]

I hope the bruins don't Sennyfry him...Zachary's first 2 years were on the 4th line "apparently" to improve his defensive game. So much for that theory!

 

[The National]

 

[rocketdan9]

Sorry if I missed it but did Beecher do anything

Sounds like he had a solid game yesterday

Nice highlight.... Including this rush/pass

 

[bbfan419]

I think Beecher is going to be a good one eventually. As productive as Coyle. But better/simple passes. And less tenative to shoot.

Good comparison, I see Beecher being some sort of hybrid of Coyle and Kuraly.

 

[The National]

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Looks confident from that short video. Also some great first passes to start rushes.

 

[Montecristo]

I finally figured out who I think he plays like after watching these clips. I think he plays like magnus paajarvi svensson.

 

[The National]

Looks confident from that short video. Also some great first passes to start rushes.

That was certainly a confident stop at :25.

 

[rocketdan9]

I finally figured out who I think he plays like after watching these clips. I think he plays like magnus paajarvi svensson.

oh cmon... hopefully Beecher will be better

Unless you just mean "style"

 

[JOKER 192]

Went into the draft hoping to get Beecher. When Kaliyev dropped looked like a no brainer to me .

Kaliyev 13 12 25 RW NHL

Beecher 6 9 15 C NCAA

Just sayin'

 

[Grasshopperking]

That video was great, so glad we have the bruins network and that other guy cutting these highlights.

For fans out of the loop it's invaluable. Wasn't long ago that pbruins video was a rare, low resolution commodity

 

[chizzler]

Sure, all of that certainly impacted his development. And I'm not down on the player at all. I just think he's got work to do and isn't a player nearly ready to be inserted into this lineup. He's got stuff to work on, which is why he's in the right place in Providence. So lets leave him be and let him make strides in his game.

He does have work to do. So don’t all of them. Just because you graduate doesn’t mean work is done. A year down there will do him good. Reminds me of Frederic. We’re trying to figure out his career when he hasn’t even started it yet. Too many examples of kids going south or north in developments. Ball is his court and the Bruins. I’m just sitting back and seeing who rises and falls. Everyone hot and heavy over Merkolov. Let’s see with him too.

 

[ON3M4N]

Just for reference, I look at the picks 28-32 drafted from 2010-2019.

Only 34% have played at least 100 NHL games

Most notable players select during this time period (based on P/GP and a min of 50gp)

Rickard Rakell (51pts)
Brock Nelson (47pts)
Charlie Coyle (40pts)
Adrian Kempe (38pts)
Anthony Beauvillier (38pts)
Tanner Pearson (38pts)

^Again these are the top performers in this group. Just after them the next 5 are Ho-Sang, Hartman, Tolvanen, Steel & Rattie. Rattie, whose 10th in production has played at a 25pt pace for his career.

I'm not sure what other expectation of Beecher are, but based on the draft position and 10yrs of data, I'd say if he becomes a 30pt NHLer then the pick is a win.

 

[LSCII]

Just for reference, I look at the picks 28-32 drafted from 2010-2019.

Only 34% have played at least 100 NHL games

Most notable players select during this time period (based on P/GP and a min of 50gp)

Rickard Rakell (51pts)
Brock Nelson (47pts)
Charlie Coyle (40pts)
Adrian Kempe (38pts)
Anthony Beauvillier (38pts)
Tanner Pearson (38pts)

^Again these are the top performers in this group. Just after them the next 5 are Ho-Sang, Hartman, Tolvanen, Steel & Rattie. Rattie, whose 10th in production has played at a 25pt pace for his career.

I'm not sure what other expectation of Beecher are, but based on the draft position and 10yrs of data, I'd say if he becomes a 30pt NHLer then the pick is a win.

Exactly. Let him develop without any pressure or expectations, and see what they have when/if he’s ready

 

[BlackFrancis]

Went into the draft hoping to get Beecher. When Kaliyev dropped looked like a no brainer to me .

Kaliyev 13 12 25 RW NHL

Beecher 6 9 15 C NCAA

Just sayin'

It looked like a no brainer while seeing Kaliyev rocking and twitching like some kind of madman on camera at the draft that night?

Imagine what his interviews with the clubs were like.

 

[DKH]

Kaliyev couldn’t handle Boston this place alone would send him in a dark place If he ever found about it - glad he went to a no pressure organization and city few care and you can get lost in

All reports Beecher looks and played like an NHL player

 

[BruinsNetwork]

That video was great, so glad we have the bruins network and that other guy cutting these highlights.

For fans out of the loop it's invaluable. Wasn't long ago that pbruins video was a rare, low resolution commodity

Tell you what, I'm almost positive that Providence upgraded their camera, lighting or internet quality at some point this season without making a note of it. I really think they're quality is night and day difference at home, which needless to say, is about damn time.