The defenses cheats that way so much, and we still don't have very many great passers to get it across the traffic to him like Granlund was so good at doing, which is how you counter that cheating.
Player Discussion Joel Eriksson Ek: The 2nd Act
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DeagleJenkins
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youd think Fiala opposite Dumba would be a deadly combination, Fiala can find him through traffic and is also a scoring threat.
Or have more than 1 scoring threat on ice at a time. The defense cheats towards Dumba it opens up the ice for the other 4 guys. Dumba doesn't need to be the prolific scorer then, just the threat of him scoring is enough.
Dumba's shot just isn't that good tis year. He's shooting lots, but it's not as hard, nor as accurate. At this point, the best we can hope for is for it come back next fall after a summer of healing. Hunt has the best shot on PP#2 at this time.
DeagleJenkins
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i realize this, I mean put them together to create a deadly PP1, we don't need 2 equal pp units we need one deadly ass unit that can score more than 50% of the time.
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DeagleJenkins
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wasn just putting a number out there didn't actually look at what our PP % is or any record is at. Would really just rather stack a pp unit with multiple threats rather than try to even out both.
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Great story … but it leaves me wondering if I need to question a team culture that makes fun of guys working hard and being in great shape …
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Guys on sports teams make fun of each other for everything, it’s more likely than not a sign of how close they are rather than a sign of a culture that frowns on being in great shape or a sign that there’s a divide.
You've never teased any of your friends for anything? This is lockerroom ribbing - a bunch of guys having fun.
Ek got off easy ribbing-wise in that one. Remember what Dumba did to Ek's car?
Dr Jan Itor
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So with Staal gone, and external center options beaten to death, I decided to take a medium-sized dive into Eriksson Ek's numbers to see if there might be anything more there.
2017-18 season
20/21 years old
75 games
6 ES goals (7 per 82)
16 ES points (17 per 82)
12:45 total TOI/game
11:21 5v5 TOI/game
0:05 PP TOI/game
4.24% shooting %
Winnik and Foligno most common linemates
2018-19 season
21/22 years old
58 games
7 ES goals (10 per 82)
14 ES points (20 per 82)
13:30 total TOI/game
11:39 5v5 TOI/game
0:06 PP TOI/game
6.54% shooting %
Greenway, Foligno and Kunin most common linemates
2019-20 season
22/23 years old
62 games
7 goals (9 per 82)
27 points (36 per 82)
15:43 total TOI/game
12:49 5v5 TOI/game
0:10 PP TOI/game
7.61% shooting %
Greenway, Kunin and Foligno most common linemates
Marginal improvement from 2017-18 to 2019 in basically everything. Larger improvement from 2018-19 to 2019-20 with fairly sizeable jumps in every thing (production, ice time, linemates).
What if Eriksson Ek got 15 minutes ES TOI/game + 1 minute PP TOI/game + Fiala/Kaprizov/Zuccarello/Boldy as most common linemates? Where would you honestly think that 9 goals per 82 and 36 points per 82 would go? We're also talking about 24-28 years old vs. 22/23.
2017-18 season
20/21 years old
75 games
6 ES goals (7 per 82)
16 ES points (17 per 82)
12:45 total TOI/game
11:21 5v5 TOI/game
0:05 PP TOI/game
4.24% shooting %
Winnik and Foligno most common linemates
2018-19 season
21/22 years old
58 games
7 ES goals (10 per 82)
14 ES points (20 per 82)
13:30 total TOI/game
11:39 5v5 TOI/game
0:06 PP TOI/game
6.54% shooting %
Greenway, Foligno and Kunin most common linemates
2019-20 season
22/23 years old
62 games
7 goals (9 per 82)
27 points (36 per 82)
15:43 total TOI/game
12:49 5v5 TOI/game
0:10 PP TOI/game
7.61% shooting %
Greenway, Kunin and Foligno most common linemates
Marginal improvement from 2017-18 to 2019 in basically everything. Larger improvement from 2018-19 to 2019-20 with fairly sizeable jumps in every thing (production, ice time, linemates).
What if Eriksson Ek got 15 minutes ES TOI/game + 1 minute PP TOI/game + Fiala/Kaprizov/Zuccarello/Boldy as most common linemates? Where would you honestly think that 9 goals per 82 and 36 points per 82 would go? We're also talking about 24-28 years old vs. 22/23.
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They would go to Danault at age 27 levels.
Danault 15 ES, 1.5 PP, 2.5 PK, Gallagher and Tatar linemates, 12-13 goals, 35-40 assists.
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I'm not expecting Eriksson Ek to be a top line player, but would Kaprizov/Eriksson Ek/Zuccarello be a terrible 2nd line? An average 2nd line?
With last year's Ek I think that's still an underwhelming 2nd line, but he made enough strides last year that I wouldn't say he's done improving either. It's hard to say.
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With no improvement from Ek, it could be anywhere from moderately worse than Kaprizov-Danault-Zuccarello to effectively the same.
With moderate improvement from Ek it could be anywhere from effectively the same to moderately better.
With significant improvement from Eriksson Ek it could be anywhere from moderately better to much better.
If you don't want to compare it to Danault, it could be anywhere from a slightly below average second line to a very good second line depending on Ek's improvement.
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