Prospect Info: Joel Eriksson Ek (C) - 20th Overall, 2015

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Wabit

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Don't know how I didn't see that obvious comparison earlier. I don't think Koivu was ever as fast as Ek, but otherwise, I can see similarities. It would be a big win for the Wild if Ek ever approaches Koivu's level, but it's possible.

I see similarities, but a lot of differences too. JEE is closer to angry Koivu than version we usually see.
 

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JEE didn't look that physically punishing from what i saw..

He'll grow into that frame and add some weight and muscle. His brain might be ready for the NHL game, but he's going to lose battles the team needs to win. It's one thing to "rush" a playmaking winger with NHL speed, another to rush a two-way center. I don't see the point in it, especially when the goal is to compete this season. It hurts the team, hurts the future budget, and doesn't do much for his growth that he couldn't also get in the SHL.
 

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He'll grow into that frame and add some weight and muscle. His brain might be ready for the NHL game, but he's going to lose battles the team needs to win. It's one thing to "rush" a playmaking winger with NHL speed, another to rush a two-way center. I don't see the point in it, especially when the goal is to compete this season. It hurts the team, hurts the future budget, and doesn't do much for his growth that he couldn't also get in the SHL.

Don't forget about faceoffs. He really needs to improve on those. Practice helps, but doing them in a game is the best teacher (imo).
 

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Can he come back now that he's in Sweden or is he gone for the year? Not talking about the contract 10 games thing but just the rules for recalling him in a situation like this. I would assume he doesn't come back even if he can but you never know what could happen.
 

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"We want him not to play 10 minutes a game," coach Bruce Boudreau said. "We want him to play 20 minutes a game. I told him, I said, 'We (Anaheim) did the same thing with Rickard Rakell where he played nine games his first year and then we sent him back to juniors (Plymouth) after sitting him out for two weeks.' I said, 'You've got five or six games before the World Junior Championship gets in there. We'd like you to do well there.' It's good for his development. He'll come back next year 10 pounds stronger, knowing what the league is about, knowing what he has to do even more so than he did this year.

"I think he's going to be a real, real good player."


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Asked if he understood Fletcher's reasoning for choosing Sweden over Iowa, Boudreau said, "Let's face it: If he went to Iowa, and it's great that he plays in the American League, but say we needed somebody as a callup. Once we call him up for that 10th game then there's no sense going back to Iowa because he's already burnt the year. I think it's a smart move and it's the right move for the team and the organization."

http://www.startribune.com/wild-ret...to-his-professional-club-in-sweden/401699705/
 

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Can he come back now that he's in Sweden or is he gone for the year? Not talking about the contract 10 games thing but just the rules for recalling him in a situation like this. I would assume he doesn't come back even if he can but you never know what could happen.

They could recall him if they wanted, but it's rather rare. Toronto did it with Nylander a couple years ago. Sent him to Sweden after training camp, had him come to the AHL after WJC. Only instance I can think of.
 

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Seems like GMCF handled this pretty well then, thanks!

This quote bugs the hell out of me

Asked if he understood Fletcher's reasoning for choosing Sweden over Iowa, Boudreau said, "Let's face it: If he went to Iowa, and it's great that he plays in the American League, but say we needed somebody as a callup. Once we call him up for that 10th game then there's no sense going back to Iowa because he's already burnt the year. I think it's a smart move and it's the right move for the team and the organization."

It's implying they sent him to Sweden, because Fletcher wouldn't be able to control himself if he was so close in the AHL. Not a a great trait. Sakic was able to control himself and not burn Mikko Rantanen's ELC when Colorado needed up front help and he was torching the AHL. But Fletcher doesn't have the self control?

Maybe i'm just being pedantic, but that quote really rubs me the wrong way.
 

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This quote bugs the hell out of me



It's implying they sent him to Sweden, because Fletcher wouldn't be able to control himself if he was so close in the AHL. Not a a great trait. Sakic was able to control himself and not burn Mikko Rantanen's ELC when Colorado needed up front help and he was torching the AHL. But Fletcher doesn't have the self control?

Maybe i'm just being pedantic, but that quote really rubs me the wrong way.

I think what he's saying is just more along the lines of out of sight, out of mind. What happens when the Wild are sitting on the brink of the either 1st or 2nd wild card and making the mad dash they always do to get to the playoffs and parise or haula or whoever gets hurt (named those two cause they always seem to be getting hurt) and Ek is leading Iowa in pts and it's between him or Bertschy. Would you want him called up and burned a year of his contract for that mad push that may or may not work out? Or would you rather have Bertschy called up and we don't end up making it and people are pissed that they didn't call Ek up in the first place. I think they are just kind of accepting that it will be better for him to focus over there in Sweden on development and not have to worry about how the rest of the team affects his situation. Pure speculation of course.
 

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Fair points from both of you I think. At this point, what's done is done, so I wouldn't worry too much. The right decision was probably made.
 

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You also have to consider leipold. Maybe GMCF is smart enough not to call up Ek if we were desperate, but if your owner sees a kid tearing it up and sees more playoff games and more money with him down the stretch, it might not be as easy to get him to think long term at that moment, easier now to send him overseas.
 

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This quote bugs the hell out of me



It's implying they sent him to Sweden, because Fletcher wouldn't be able to control himself if he was so close in the AHL. Not a a great trait. Sakic was able to control himself and not burn Mikko Rantanen's ELC when Colorado needed up front help and he was torching the AHL. But Fletcher doesn't have the self control?

Maybe i'm just being pedantic, but that quote really rubs me the wrong way.

I think it's a combination of a few factors. One, being not to have the temptation to call him up. Two, him being loaned to SHL is it opens up a contract slot, the same as being sent to Jr. The open contract slot does open trade/waiver options that wouldn't be there if he was counting towards the 50 contract total. Three, he might actually think he'll progress better being close to home.

I look at quotes for these types of moves kind of like injury reports, vague and open ended.
 

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This quote bugs the hell out of me



It's implying they sent him to Sweden, because Fletcher wouldn't be able to control himself if he was so close in the AHL. Not a a great trait. Sakic was able to control himself and not burn Mikko Rantanen's ELC when Colorado needed up front help and he was torching the AHL. But Fletcher doesn't have the self control?

Maybe i'm just being pedantic, but that quote really rubs me the wrong way.

Well, if you need a center and you're staring at Eriksson Ek and Pat Cannone, I'd sure be tempted to call up the player with actual talent.
 

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His return to Sweden made it to national Swedish television yesterday. No analyses, just the fact. Not that bad, considering all other sport there is to report in a short window of time.
 

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Good move. I don't think a little more seasoning will hurt his development. We see the tools, just needs to continue his progression. Ek is still so young, another year close to home is just fine. Iowa is still garbage and probably will be until Ek comes in next year. Zero centers down there.
 

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Ek needs to be concentrating on hockey, not adjusting to yet another new living situation in Iowa. He will be more comfortable lifestyle wise in Sweden, and hopefully come back next year bigger and better.

I would like Tuch to start ramping it up down in Iowa. He is another big body who should be able to take care of himself in the NHL, but it would be nice to see him dominate, or something close to that, in the AHL.
 

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Ek needs to be concentrating on hockey, not adjusting to yet another new living situation in Iowa. He will be more comfortable lifestyle wise in Sweden, and hopefully come back next year bigger and better.

I would like Tuch to start ramping it up down in Iowa. He is another big body who should be able to take care of himself in the NHL, but it would be nice to see him dominate, or something close to that, in the AHL.

Ask and you shall receive, at least tonight...
 
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