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mandiblesofdoom

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Leaf fans will say that their team didn't play well, but I thought they played with a lot of intensity. Rangers defended well overall, with the exception of Trouba, who continues to look lost. If he's nursing injuries, give him a week off because he is currently a net negative almost every night.
Leafs muffed a lot of passes. The precision wasn't quite there. Their announcers wondered if it was the garden ice.

Are we in playoff position?
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Boris Zubov

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HFNYR waking up to a 5 game win streak.

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Leafs defended well for most of the game but also rarely looked very threatening for most of the game. Rangers sat back a lot in the 3rd and just chipped the puck out.

Kinda boring game

One of those "actually a good win and played well to beat one of the best teams in the league but it was also boring and they sat on a lead and a bad bounce could have been the difference" games.
There's sitting back and then there's a responsible way to play in the 3rd with a lead. This is the time when opponents would be pressing and in case of TML - there's a lot of offensive power there and the Rangers didn't want to get caught on long shift ala the 4th line did in the 2nd. I wouldn't call this situation "sitting back" - the Rangers did try gaining offensive zone and keep the puck there whenever possible without allowing Leafs to catch them on the rush (or as I said - get caught locked inside own zone on a long shift)
 

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Leafs muffed a lot of passes. The precision wasn't quite there. Their announcers wondered if it was the garden ice.


yes!
Maybe the ice was shitty, but we’ve seen our ice screw us over so often too, both teams need to play on it.

It’s like opponents complain how lucky it is when Yanks hit one to the short porch, but when they do it at the stadium they don’t speak about ‘getting lucky because it was at Yankees stadium’ after the fact.
 

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Leafs missing a couple of defenders no doubt hurts them.....but we grabbed two points when sometimes we let up after a couple of W's .

I thought Kravs had some good moments and I was happy to see hm playing . We won't know how good he can be unless he plays and gets to play with confidence .

I would like to see Gauthier get back to being a bit more physical again or else he will be shipped out in a deal. Blais should probably sit out a few games....but it would not shock me if he is back for the Flyer game......and there will be some fights in that game is a given . Deslauriers took a solid one in his bout last night from right field......I was hoping they would punch each other out LOL....

Keep it going Rangers....I would play Halak against the Flyers.....he needs some puck confidence as a Ranger and it's a good time.
 

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Hahaha. Yes Krav REALLY contributed heavily tonight. The difference was him being in for Blais. Let’s start shooting other players into the sun. In fact all of them and we’ll just ice a team of cloned Kravtsovs!
Blais f***ing sucks and be he won’t be here next year. Give Krav his minutes

The only reason Blais is still playing is because Drury knows what a disaster the Buch deal was and Blais is the only remaining piece

It’s a sunk cost already, they need to move on from him
 

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5 in a row is a really nice way to make up ground that they lost early on. They are sitting in the first wildcard and are 2 pts ahead of the Isles now. Isles have a game in hand.

Ive been trying to key in on Gallants matchups. He's really utilizing the Trocheck/Kreider combo against other clubs top lines. Did it vs the Devils against the Hughes line. Again last night vs the Matthews line. Kreider was such a staple on Zibanejads wing for so long. I was assuming and still are for the most part that they will reunite shorty. Obvious amazing chemistry between them. This is likely the most they have played apart from each other and the team. In that time though, the team has basically won every game.

Is it a balanced attack and the use of the 3rd line in a shutdown role? Is it a hot goalie? Is it puckluck? Combo of all 3?

So hard figuring out what the deal is with Trouba. Last year this physical version of him emerged and he was just flat out labeling people and playing that true physical defenseman that the club always seems to lack. This year, he's struggling. Then he has games where he elevates the club with an on ice meltdown. That game did sort of bring them back together. But...seems like he is really making some poor decisions with the puck. Like, AHL level decisions with it resulting in turnover, and odd man rushes. Poor stretch of play or a true area of concern for a players who is eating up a large portion of the Rangers cap space?
 

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He's been neutered of all the moxy and attitude he had in juniors. Imagine if the Rangers organization didn't gag and rope him and drag him into a dark cellar and cut his nuts off... or force him to submit to Kreider Zibanejad love affair or force him to defer to Panarin and Goodrow... kid might actually be a hockey player right now instead of a kid trying to fit in with the cool crowd.

What the organization should have done was put the f***ing C on his chest and force him to become a man and leader right away like every other organization does with their #1 overall pick. And tell him to f*** everyone else when he has the puck on his stick to be selfish and drive the net and shoot... instead now when he has the puck you hear his brain say "oh shit I've had the puck more than 1 millisecond I have to pass" and that's why turnovers happen.

This organization cares more about reviving Vesey and Trocheck, and getting Goodrow ice time instead of developing the two players (Laf and Kakko) that could tilt this franchise into actual real contenders for the next decade instead of the pretenders they are.

Watch when Othmann arrives they'll suck the life-force right out of him and make him look like a scared puppy in record time.
Honestly i think Drury is the issue and he drafted Othmann so i expect him to get the first line treatment as soon as he gets here.
 
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Leaf fans will say that their team didn't play well, but I thought they played with a lot of intensity. Rangers defended well overall, with the exception of Trouba, who continues to look lost. If he's nursing injuries, give him a week off because he is currently a net negative almost every night.
This is how i saw it too, specifically Mika,Miller and Trochek killed their top players all night. I think Trouba needs to simplify his game, i liked him as the pick for captain but i honestly think it's given him reason to try and do too much.

Leafs muffed a lot of passes. The precision wasn't quite there. Their announcers wondered if it was the garden ice.


yes!
Both teams play on the same ice so i never liked that excuse.

5 in a row is a really nice way to make up ground that they lost early on. They are sitting in the first wildcard and are 2 pts ahead of the Isles now. Isles have a game in hand.

Ive been trying to key in on Gallants matchups. He's really utilizing the Trocheck/Kreider combo against other clubs top lines. Did it vs the Devils against the Hughes line. Again last night vs the Matthews line. Kreider was such a staple on Zibanejads wing for so long. I was assuming and still are for the most part that they will reunite shorty. Obvious amazing chemistry between them. This is likely the most they have played apart from each other and the team. In that time though, the team has basically won every game.

Is it a balanced attack and the use of the 3rd line in a shutdown role? Is it a hot goalie? Is it puckluck? Combo of all 3?

So hard figuring out what the deal is with Trouba. Last year this physical version of him emerged and he was just flat out labeling people and playing that true physical defenseman that the club always seems to lack. This year, he's struggling. Then he has games where he elevates the club with an on ice meltdown. That game did sort of bring them back together. But...seems like he is really making some poor decisions with the puck. Like, AHL level decisions with it resulting in turnover, and odd man rushes. Poor stretch of play or a true area of concern for a players who is eating up a large portion of the Rangers cap space?
He's currently trying to do too much, he needs to simplify everything, play positional hockey, quicker passes and stop considering himself an offesive dman.
 

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5 in a row is a really nice way to make up ground that they lost early on. They are sitting in the first wildcard and are 2 pts ahead of the Isles now. Isles have a game in hand.

Ive been trying to key in on Gallants matchups. He's really utilizing the Trocheck/Kreider combo against other clubs top lines. Did it vs the Devils against the Hughes line. Again last night vs the Matthews line. Kreider was such a staple on Zibanejads wing for so long. I was assuming and still are for the most part that they will reunite shorty. Obvious amazing chemistry between them. This is likely the most they have played apart from each other and the team. In that time though, the team has basically won every game.

Is it a balanced attack and the use of the 3rd line in a shutdown role? Is it a hot goalie? Is it puckluck? Combo of all 3?

So hard figuring out what the deal is with Trouba. Last year this physical version of him emerged and he was just flat out labeling people and playing that true physical defenseman that the club always seems to lack. This year, he's struggling. Then he has games where he elevates the club with an on ice meltdown. That game did sort of bring them back together. But...seems like he is really making some poor decisions with the puck. Like, AHL level decisions with it resulting in turnover, and odd man rushes. Poor stretch of play or a true area of concern for a players who is eating up a large portion of the Rangers cap space?

Trouba clearly has a wrist injury imo. His passes and wrist shots are all muffins he can barely get anything on, whereas his slapper still plays (even though he has not clue where its going). His best contribution to the team thus far has been in the room, galvanizing the team after their run of unacceptable play, like a good Captain should. So far it has taken hold. Mika is noticeably more engaged physically and Panarin is playing more direct offensively and backchecking hard, which is very encouraging. It all trickles down from those guys. They just have to hope Jacob heals as the season progresses because its just not realistic that he gets scratched for Hajek or Jones. Another defenseman is our biggest need, preferably a top 4 guy.

Wanted to add that Braden Schneider has stepped up nicely and stabilized the defense (for the second straight season). It's almost like we shouldnt declare a 21 year old defenseman a bust after a rough stretch of games when he's had a revolving door of partners. Hes going to be an important player for us for a long time.

He's currently trying to do too much, he needs to simplify everything, play positional hockey, quicker passes and stop considering himself an offesive dman.

He is definitely compromised due to injury, but there's a lot of truth here too. He should tell Key to stop deferring and take charge on that pair. Trouba can handle the defensive responsibility without the puck.
 
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Aside from the overall team-wide compete level improvements following Trouba’s infamous post-game interview, Panarin playing D and Igor regaining last season’s form are the biggest culprits to this turnaround.

Last 5 games: 10.8% 5v5 sh%
Season excluding the last 5 games: 7.5%


Last 5 games: 20.0% 5v4 sh%
Season excluding the last 5 games: 10.3%

Surprisingly when the team starts to "look good" and "turn it around" it just so happens to be the exact same time they go on a shooting percent binge relative to how they had been.
 

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So I assume most of us had this team coming back after that Hawks loss & getting all 10 points vs St Louis, Vegas, Colorado, New Jersey & Toronto?
CORRECT. I know I did. Things aligned pretty well for us for a change. Beating the Blues at HOME was the key. Could say the Hawks were they're "bottom". I mean, they had to be pissed, right? Disappointed? Maybe heard more boos, and being questioned walking down the avenue?
Wouldn't wanna be the Hawks, when we play them next. Told you guys, we're possibly heading into a 12 game winning streak. Next 2 makes it 7, then a toughie vs Pitt. and revenge vs Piles. That gets us to 9 entering a wonderful Christmas break.

naaah, he suc
Kudos to Panarin for playing a little d and managing the puck better
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Leafs muffed a lot of passes. The precision wasn't quite there. Their announcers wondered if it was the garden ice.


yes!
Watched their telecast as well. I really like hearing objective views about our team. Somehow didn't hear that comment, but it was very clear that the ice was bad, this team has to deal with that MUCH of the time, so I guess we are used to it, and prob one of the reasons as to why we aren't deemed a "fast" team. I mean, how could they be for at least 20-30 of them?
 
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kovazub94

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Last 5 games: 10.8% 5v5 sh%
Season excluding the last 5 games: 7.5%


Last 5 games: 20.0% 5v4 sh%
Season excluding the last 5 games: 10.3%

Surprisingly when the team starts to "look good" and "turn it around" it just so happens to be the exact same time they go on a shooting percent binge relative to how they had been.
Yup, was expecting that shooting vows would eventually turnaround and get back to norm, give or take. But they clearly are playing more responsibly on D. Otherwise, the adversity they went (going) through at this point of the season was good for a team that had SC ambitions. We saw what happened to TBL when they had their perfect regular season. On top of it it's kind of bonding experience for the players in the sink or swim situation re. the whole season.
 

kovazub94

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Honestly i think Drury is the issue and he drafted Othmann so i expect him to get the first line treatment as soon as he gets here.
By your logic it's really surprising that Drury's pet didn't make the Rangers this season. What kind of "treatment" is this????
 
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