Jim Matheson should have his voting privileges revoked

[smytty]

Correction: Jim Matheson should have his journalism privileges revoked

We hate him as much as you all do

 

[hockeykicker]

What's the point of voting if dissent gets such a reaction? Just give it to the player with the best stats

thats exactly what he did. he gave it to three of the top 4 point getters (skipped over drai)

 

[super6646]

Clownish ballot by him, but otherwise the voters actually did a good job. Forsling finally getting the attention he deserves imo.

 

[banks]

Is the 2nd place vote for Hyman really worse than the ESPN stooge who didn't vote McDavid as #1? This guy (Ryan S. Clark, whoever that is) voted Bobrovsky as #1, even though Bob didn't get any 1st or 2nd votes from anyone else. Only getting 3rd place twice.

Voting for Hyman is dumb. But he did get 15 goals in the playoffs, and it was just his vote for 2nd. It's not as unreasonable to throw out a homer/silly pick with the 2nd or 3rd place guy. I think it's worse to knowingly vote wrong for #1.

That ESPN fool ruined the word "unanimous" for McDavid for absolutely no justifiable reason.

 

[hockeykicker]

Having Hyman on the ballot isn't crazy, but not having any of the Panthers players on the ballot at all is just asinine.

he probably just looked at the point totals of the playoffs and his three were top 4 excluding drai

 

[Kahvi]

Has there ever been this unanimous voting for a major trophy, for winner and runner up? McDavid with all but one first place votes, Barkov with all but two second place votes.

 

[Viqsi]

Voters are allowed to submit conditional ballots. They collect them with about 10 minutes left. You can have a ballot that says "McDavid, then Hyman, but if Florida wins, McDavid then Barkov"

Oh, well, in that case f*** his lame homer ass and take away his press pass.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Is that the dork who got into it with Draisaitl a year or two ago and called him "pissy" during a presser?

What a loser.

 

[Rebels57]

What an embarrassment by Matheson. Absolute loser.

Is the 2nd place vote for Hyman really worse than the ESPN stooge who didn't vote McDavid as #1? This guy (Ryan S. Clark, whoever that is) voted Bobrovsky as #1, even though Bob didn't get any 1st or 2nd votes from anyone else. Only getting 3rd place twice.

Voting for Hyman is dumb. But he did get 15 goals in the playoffs, and it was just his vote for 2nd. It's not as unreasonable to throw out a homer/silly pick with the 2nd or 3rd place guy. I think it's worse to knowingly vote wrong for #1.

That ESPN fool ruined the word "unanimous" for McDavid for absolutely no justifiable reason.

Yes. It's worse.

 

[ZDH]

1 Bob 1st pick
0 Bob 2nd pick

Kind of interesting. 1 guy had Bob first and the next closest was Bob 3rd.

 

[Viqsi]

Is the 2nd place vote for Hyman really worse than the ESPN stooge who didn't vote McDavid as #1?

Yes. Unquestionably. Get over it.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Matheson has always been a clown, somehow manages to make Mark Spector look like a good journalist. Montreal writer holding Iginla off his Hart ballot vibes.

 

[voyageur]

There are multiple writers out there who thought that Auston Matthews was a better defensive player than Adam Lowry, I don't remember Matthews out there taking crucial d-zone draws, killing penalties, but you know media, and stats.

 

[TooManyHumans]

People keep mentioning not voting for anyone from the winning team but again the vote was during the third period of the final game. It was far from clear at that point who the winner would be. To me the dumbest part of all this is that they don't just wait for the game to end to vote. There's no good reason for it.

 

[Satan]

This is funny, all press is good press Matty

 

[Dr Pepper]

Is the 2nd place vote for Hyman really worse than the ESPN stooge who didn't vote McDavid as #1? This guy (Ryan S. Clark, whoever that is) voted Bobrovsky as #1, even though Bob didn't get any 1st or 2nd votes from anyone else. Only getting 3rd place twice.

Voting for Hyman is dumb. But he did get 15 goals in the playoffs, and it was just his vote for 2nd. It's not as unreasonable to throw out a homer/silly pick with the 2nd or 3rd place guy. I think it's worse to knowingly vote wrong for #1.

That ESPN fool ruined the word "unanimous" for McDavid for absolutely no justifiable reason.

McDavid didn't even bother to accept the award, I doubt he cares if the vote was unanimous - even if it should've been.

 

[DearDiary]

People keep mentioning not voting for anyone from the winning team but again the vote was during the third period of the final game. It was far from clear at that point who the winner would be. To me the dumbest part of all this is that they don't just wait for the game to end to vote. There's no good reason for it.

That makes no difference. Voters give voting scenarios with many different options like if X player scores 2 goals or if goalie has a shutout.

For example:
If Florida wins, Barkov scores 3 goals and McDavid doesn't register a point, then
1. Barkov
2. McDavid
3. Bob

So it makes no difference whether the game result was clear or not 10 minutes from the end of the game.

 

[TheNumber4]

There’s an argument for all 3. But yes there’s Homer glasses involved. And some senility, actually a lot of senility.

 

[TooManyHumans]

That makes no difference. Voters give voting scenarios with many different options like if X player scores 2 goals or if goalie has a shutout.

For example:
If Florida wins, Barkov scores 3 goals and McDavid doesn't register a point, then
1. Barkov
2. McDavid
3. Bob

So it makes no difference whether the game result was clear or not 10 minutes from the end of the game.

I don't understand the point of making it needlessly complicated. There's no reason they can't get votes from 17 people who are in the arena after the game is actually over.

 

[Ezekial]

Most points since Mario, most goals since Sakic, most assists by a d man ever

Somehow still an awful vote since none lifted the cup.

 

[DearDiary]

I don't understand the point of making it needlessly complicated. There's no reason they can't get votes from 17 people who are in the arena after the game is actually over.

Even with getting the votes early, the trophy presentation is still delayed. It's supposed to happen as soon as the handshakes end and both teams are still on the ice.

 

[karltonian]

This voting shows exactly why voting for the conn smythe before game 7 is over is stupid and should never happen again.

That makes no difference. Voters give voting scenarios with many different options like if X player scores 2 goals or if goalie has a shutout.

For example:
If Florida wins, Barkov scores 3 goals and McDavid doesn't register a point, then
1. Barkov
2. McDavid
3. Bob

So it makes no difference whether the game result was clear or not 10 minutes from the end of the game.

There is a lot that can happen that isn't measured in any stat.

 

[NotASheep]

this is amusing

 

[bucks_oil]

This is an absurd ballot. He thought there were three skaters good enough to be the second skater ever to win from a losing team? This is laughable.

They vote at the 2nd intermission, so obviously before the game is decided (which is silly). But arguably he thought one of those three guys were going to factor into tying up a one-goal game.

In my mind that was more "voting with my hope/heart" rather than "pure homer, they were better even in losing".

Still unprofessional though. Nobody likes Matheson in Edmonton anyway... needs to retire.

 

[karltonian]

Is the 2nd place vote for Hyman really worse than the ESPN stooge who didn't vote McDavid as #1? This guy (Ryan S. Clark, whoever that is) voted Bobrovsky as #1, even though Bob didn't get any 1st or 2nd votes from anyone else. Only getting 3rd place twice.

Voting for Hyman is dumb. But he did get 15 goals in the playoffs, and it was just his vote for 2nd. It's not as unreasonable to throw out a homer/silly pick with the 2nd or 3rd place guy. I think it's worse to knowingly vote wrong for #1.

That ESPN fool ruined the word "unanimous" for McDavid for absolutely no justifiable reason.

IMO that person is the only one that ended up right. No way Mcdavid should be anywhere near unanimous after the loss. Bob absolutely put his stamp on this game and on the win. And he looked dialed in by the 2nd period. It really was going to matter what happened in the 3rd, this voting sucks and should never ever happen again.