Prospect Info: Jets Prospects

[ps241]

I know it might create a fire-storm, but I think Heinola has been disappointing, all things considered. The caveat is that most players drafted around his spot (#20) or later have been disappointing.

Lucius was promising, but injuries have perhaps cratered his career.

I don't mind the rest of the picks, yet (Perfetti, McGroarty, Lambert, Barlow). Barlow might be the most iffy based on his regular season, but he's off to a strong playoff start. Maybe just needed a jolt of motivation in his 4th full junior season.

I am disappointed with Heinola as well. One challenge is Winnipeg has been in a win now mode and it has created less room for prospects to get games in the NHL for the past 3 years. Samberg and Perfetti fought their way in which is nice. Not sure how this next wave will do?

 

[Mud Turtle]

I’m not sure how we can be disappointed with Heinola if he’s sitting on the bench every game.
He was the best defenceman on the Moose for the last couple years and looked good in two training camps.
Some bad luck with injuries, but really it’s hard to be disappointed if he hasn’t been given a chance yet.

 

[Jetsetter]

Down the drain for Lucius ….. with the rest of the bath water.

Why did the Toronto- torian through $220 down the out house pooper..
He had previously dropped a Lonnie down the hole and he wanted to make it worth his while getting dirty!

No use wasting good $ after Bad $ on Lucius …..

Our 1 st ever Bust of a 1 st round pick since we returned = not 1 NHL game played.

Feel bad for Lucius and as sad Wyatt Johnston was picked 5 picks later!

 

[blueandgoldguy]

I would say KVes was our first bust but I am splitting hairs I guess. We tried him for 53 games in 21-22 and he had 6 points and that was it for him. I consider him a bust but it depends on the criteria I guess.

Stanley is a bust given we wasted a first rounder and a high second rounder to draft him near the middle of the 2016 NHL draft. Would he actually have played around 200 games of mostly poor quality with anyone else?

 

[ICdave]

Last night:

 

[Gm0ney]

I am disappointed with Heinola as well. One challenge is Winnipeg has been in a win now mode and it has created less room for prospects to get games in the NHL for the past 3 years. Samberg and Perfetti fought their way in which is nice. Not sure how this next wave will do?

There's not much room on the 3rd pair for an offensive guy and there's already an offensive defenseman on each of the top 2 pairs. One of the 3rd pairing guys needs to be able to kill penalties too, so that hurts Heinola too.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Wonder if they bring Walton into Winnipeg if he's eliminated tonight.

Maybe some skates and an appearance with the Moose?

 

[surixon]

There's not much room on the 3rd pair for an offensive guy and there's already an offensive defenseman on each of the top 2 pairs. One of the 3rd pairing guys needs to be able to kill penalties too, so that hurts Heinola too.

I'm still unsure why Heinola can't kill penalties. We already use other offensive guys on the pk like JoMo and Pionk.

I'd still prefer to have three balanced pairings. One puck mover/offensive guy on each pairing and one defensive guy on each pairing.

 

[Flair Hay]

I'm still unsure why Heinola can't kill penalties. We already use other offensive guys on the pk like JoMo and Pionk.

I'd still prefer to have three balanced pairings. One puck mover/offensive guy on each pairing and one defensive guy on each pairing.

Heinola and Schenn makes a ton of sense. It's exactly what Ville needs for a partner and it's a strong puck mover for Schenn who is pretty mediocre in that area.

Whether Ville reaches a top 4 level is another discussion but he has shown he his easily ready for sheltered 3rd pair duty in flashes. I think next year that will be a top option for Arniel to look at.

 

[Buffdog]

I'm still unsure why Heinola can't kill penalties. We already use other offensive guys on the pk like JoMo and Pionk.

I'd still prefer to have three balanced pairings. One puck mover/offensive guy on each pairing and one defensive guy on each pairing.

Puck retrievals would be my guess

 

[wpgallday1960]

Puck retrievals would be my guess

Exactly. On a PK against a big heavy team, Heinola would be a problem.

 

[ICdave]

Last night in the WHL playoffs:

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Wonder if they bring Walton into Winnipeg if he's eliminated tonight.

Maybe some skates and an appearance with the Moose?

Walton is unsigned by the Jets isn't he? I don't think an unsigned player can play on the Moose.

 

[surixon]

Walton is unsigned by the Jets isn't he? I don't think an unsigned player can play on the Moose.

They can sign an amateur tryout and play.

 

[AtomicJets]

Nice Yager article on TSN

Brayden Yager welcomes changes after trades to Winnipeg Jets and Lethbridge Hurricanes | TSN

Brayden Yager had a season full of change after he was traded at both the NHL and WHL levels. Now he's looking to use the lessons he's learned to lead the Lethbridge Hurricanes in the WHL playoffs.

www.tsn.ca

“Mom and Dad were pretty pumped because I’m a lot closer to home [than in Pittsburgh],” said Yager. “I’ve been to Winnipeg a lot when I was growing up and it’s a great city and obviously a great hockey town.

“Being in Canada makes it more special and I’ll hopefully get a chance to play in the NHL there.”

Yager was drafted 14th overall by the Penguins in 2023 and had his first taste of NHL action in Pittsburgh by appearing in two preseason games with the club.

 

[Bob E]

Should Yager and the Canes get past the Wheat Kings (probable), they would then likely face McKenna and the Tigers.

That will be a very tough match for the Canes.

 

[surixon]

1g and 1a for Yager as his team moves on to the next round.

 

[Whileee]

Nice to see Yager and Barlow having very strong playoffs, so far. Maybe Barlow just needed something to get charged up about after 230 regular season games in the OHL over 4 seasons.

Meanwhile, Yager is looking like the straw that stirs the drink on Lethbridge. It's to be expected at this stage I suppose, but he's rounding out his game in all facets and is now a very good playmaker at C, along with his top-end shooting talent.

 

[ICdave]

 

[AtomicJets]

The OHL released the results of their annual coaches poll. Kevin He was voted as the best skater in the Eastern Conference. Those are some big names on the list around him. Nick Lardis scored 71 goals this year, Matthew Schaefer will probably get drafted first or second overall in July.

Best Skater:

Eastern Conference:
Kevin He, Niagara IceDogs (37)
Nick Lardis, Brantford Bulldogs (25)
Luke Misa, Brampton Steelheads (11)

Western Conference:
Matthew Schaefer, Erie Otters (34)
Jett Luchanko, Guelph Storm (30)
Zayne Parekh, Saginaw Spirit (7)
Sam Dickinson, London Knights (7)

The Coaches Poll is tabulated when each team submits one nominee per category, and coaches then vote for the top three players for each category within their conference. Players receive five points for a first place vote, three points for a second place vote, and one point for a third place vote. Clubs are not permitted to vote for players from their own team allowing for a maximum of 45 possible points for each winner.

2024-25 OHL Coaches Poll Results - Ontario Hockey League

Rolling out results of the 2024-25 OHL Coaches Poll, highlighting top finishers from across the league.

chl.ca

 

[Whileee]

The OHL released the results of their annual coaches poll. Kevin He was voted as the best skater in the Eastern Conference. Those are some big names on the list around him. Nick Lardis scored 71 goals this year, Matthew Schaefer will probably get drafted first or second overall in July.

Best Skater:

Eastern Conference:
Kevin He, Niagara IceDogs (37)
Nick Lardis, Brantford Bulldogs (25)
Luke Misa, Brampton Steelheads (11)

Western Conference:
Matthew Schaefer, Erie Otters (34)
Jett Luchanko, Guelph Storm (30)
Zayne Parekh, Saginaw Spirit (7)
Sam Dickinson, London Knights (7)

The Coaches Poll is tabulated when each team submits one nominee per category, and coaches then vote for the top three players for each category within their conference. Players receive five points for a first place vote, three points for a second place vote, and one point for a third place vote. Clubs are not permitted to vote for players from their own team allowing for a maximum of 45 possible points for each winner.

2024-25 OHL Coaches Poll Results - Ontario Hockey League

Rolling out results of the 2024-25 OHL Coaches Poll, highlighting top finishers from across the league.

chl.ca

I'll be very surprised if He doesn't make the NHL, and I won't be surprised if he ends up as an effective middle 6 F. Seems like a "high floor" prospect.

 

[AtomicJets]

I'll be very surprised if He doesn't make the NHL, and I won't be surprised if he ends up as an effective middle 6 F. Seems like a "high floor" prospect.

If Niagara gets bounced in the first round I expect Kevin He to debut for the Jets this season.

 

[Buffdog]

If Niagara gets bounced in the first round I expect Kevin He to debut for the Jets this season.

I don't think there's much chance of that. He'll maybe get some games in in the Moose

 

[KingBogo]

Stanley is a bust given we wasted a first rounder and a high second rounder to draft him near the middle of the 2016 NHL draft. Would he actually have played around 200 games of mostly poor quality with anyone else?

Funny how trades work out, but if you go by the players actually selected by the trade of picks Chevy made out like a bandit. From picks 22 and 36 in 2016 the Flyers got Rubtsov and Laberge who have a combined total of 4 NHL games and 0 points. No way to know how things would have turned out if the trade didn't happen, but a bottom pairing D is better than 2 complete whiffs the Flyers ended up with.

 

[surixon]

Funny how trades work out, but if you go by the players actually selected by the trade of picks Chevy made out like a bandit. From picks 22 and 36 in 2016 the Flyers got Rubtsov and Laberge who have a combined total of 4 NHL games and 0 points. No way to know how things would have turned out if the trade didn't happen, but a bottom pairing D is better than 2 complete whiffs the Flyers ended up with.

Yeah Stanley isn't a bust. He's probably a bit of a dissapointment given where he was selected but he still largely covered the bet by becoming a bottom pairing guy.