Prospect Info: Jets Prospects

[Mortimer Snerd]

Not sure Heinola can demand anything. When you are 9/10 on a depth chart collecting the NHL paycheck beats the minors. I think he probably stays around for another year since he is under contract next season. Maybe he gets waived, but more likely they keep him on as #8 next season? Anyways he is deep depth at this point.

I think they will let him go back to Europe. But time will tell.

 

[Whileee]

Jets fourth round RD prospect Garrett Brown and University of Denver are facing off against 3rd round RW prospect Zach Nehring and Western Michigan for the NCHC championship tonight at Xcel Energy center in St Paul, MN. Game is about to start, on CBS sports Network if ya got it

I didn't see the game.

Nehring's WMU team won 4-3 in 2OT.

Brown had an assist and finished +1 for Denver.

No points for Nehring but he had 7 shots on goal and finished even.

 

[AtomicJets]

I didn't see the game.

Nehring's WMU team won 4-3 in 2OT.

Brown had an assist and finished +1 for Denver.

No points for Nehring but he had 7 shots on goal and finished even.

It was a great game. Denver went up 3-0 pretty early. Huge comeback for WMU.

Brown assisted on the first goal for Denver, just a wrister on net from the point that generated a rebound Denver capitalized on. I don't think he's ever going to be an offensive dynamo but he's a good skater, good first pass, big body. He'll make a solid stay-at-home defenceman. Right-shot helps too.

Nehring has developed so much this year. He is huge and knows how to use his size to gain position in front of the net. He didn't score last night but he always seemed to be involved in the play when he was on the ice. Looking forward to seeing him progress even further next year. I assume both these guys will spend at least one more year in college.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Here’s what we have for an 18th overall pick from two years ago who was touted, along with McGroarty, as being a possible future captain of the Jets.

A player who has fewer points per game two years in a row now.

A player who is UNDER a point per game in the OHL in his D+2 season.

A 20 year old who is 4th in scoring on his own team.

With prospects, progression every year is everything. Unfortunately Barlow isn’t even treading water, he’s going backwards.

Lots of young players mature and plateau early, but at least they show a minimal amount of progression every year. They never make the show. Barlow hasn’t even done that.

 

[Buffdog]

Here’s what we have for an 18th overall pick from two years ago who was touted, along with McGroarty, as being a possible future captain of the Jets.

A player who has fewer points per game two years in a row now.

A player who is UNDER a point per game in the OHL in his D+2 season.

A 20 year old who is 4th in scoring on his own team.

With prospects, progression every year is everything. Unfortunately Barlow isn’t even treading water, he’s going backwards.

Lots of young players mature and plateau early, but at least they show a minimal amount of progression every year. They never make the show. Barlow hasn’t even done that.

He showed well with the Moose during his short stay at the end of last season

I agree that his progression is not ideal but I'll wait until he plays some pro games before writing him off

There are plenty of Nic Petans out there too

 

[Whileee]

Here’s what we have for an 18th overall pick from two years ago who was touted, along with McGroarty, as being a possible future captain of the Jets.

A player who has fewer points per game two years in a row now.

A player who is UNDER a point per game in the OHL in his D+2 season.

A 20 year old who is 4th in scoring on his own team.

With prospects, progression every year is everything. Unfortunately Barlow isn’t even treading water, he’s going backwards.

Lots of young players mature and plateau early, but at least they show a minimal amount of progression every year. They never make the show. Barlow hasn’t even done that.

Barlow is a really strange case, and certainly has thrown up some red flags. But I don't think he's a lost cause. He still has definable skills that translate to the NHL. His shot / scoring ability is the most obvious. He has decent size and strength and he plays an aggressive game, and has been effective on the forecheck and PK. He doesn't have great mobility or puck-handling but he has pretty good vision and is a quick passer.

My sense is that he's just kind of stalled in his 4th OHL season and probably would have been better served moving up to the next level. Being on a loaded team also limits his offensive productivity a bit. His trajectory is similar to Jake DeBrusk, and he kind of fits that style of play. DeBrusk's production stalled at the Junior level after being drafted but his style translated well to the pro game.

Barlow will need to have a very strong summer of skating and developing quickness and spend a year or two at the AHL level to adjust to the pace. But I could still see him having an NHL career as a middle 6 winger who plays a straightforward game with some goal scoring contributions.

 

[surixon]

Barlow is a really strange case, and certainly has thrown up some red flags. But I don't think he's a lost cause. He still has definable skills that translate to the NHL. His shot / scoring ability is the most obvious. He has decent size and strength and he plays an aggressive game, and has been effective on the forecheck and PK. He doesn't have great mobility or puck-handling but he has pretty good vision and is a quick passer.

My sense is that he's just kind of stalled in his 4th OHL season and probably would have been better served moving up to the next level. Being on a loaded team also limits his offensive productivity a bit. His trajectory is similar to Jake DeBrusk, and he kind of fits that style of play. DeBrusk's production stalled at the Junior level after being drafted but his style translated well to the pro game.

Barlow will need to have a very strong summer of skating and developing quickness and spend a year or two at the AHL level to adjust to the pace. But I could still see him having an NHL career as a middle 6 winger who plays a straightforward game with some goal scoring contributions.

I agree with most of this but I disagree that he's a good forechecker. He isn't pratcularly good given his size.

He is going to need to add strength and speed so that he can win those puck races and board battles to up his forechecking game.

 

[Heldig]

Was really happy with the Barlow pick. He has not progressed well. Hopefully a year or two on the Moose will help.

 

[Thechozen1]

At the time of the draft I was hoping for Matthew Wood (went 15th) or Bonk , but after learning more about Barlow, I thought he could develop into a poor man’s Mark Stone.

Now I just don’t k know what to make of him. Really like his scoring touch, but if the rest of his game cannot be rounded out I don’t know how effective he can be.

I was aboard the trade him train leading to the deadline, but I guess we’ll see how he does with the Moose next year. That said, shame on the organization if they don’t support their prospects with good AHL vets again next season. That’s gotta be hard on the young prospects trying to develop their games.

 

[Mud Turtle]

At the time of the draft I was hoping for Matthew Wood (went 15th) or Bonk , but after learning more about Barlow, I thought he could develop into a poor man’s Mark Stone.

Now I just don’t k know what to make of him. Really like his scoring touch, but if the rest of his game cannot be rounded out I don’t know how effective he can be.

I was aboard the trade him train leading to the deadline, but I guess we’ll see how he does with the Moose next year. That said, shame on the organization if they don’t support their prospects with good AHL vets again next season. That’s gotta be hard on the young prospects trying to develop their games.

The 2023 draft was a weird one. Almost all the players drafted in the first round, outside of the top 10, have had down years this year compared to last year.