Prospect Info: Jets Prospects

[Boonk]

I was always very high on Ritchie and thought the Jets would pick him.

Agreed, both Ritchie and Perrault were still just sitting there for us on the board and I was itching for the pick to be made..

 

[AtomicJets]

With Salo progressing nicely and Pionk putting up crazy points in a contract year, meaning we probably don't want to extend him on the big money he'll command, it seems like there is an obvious path for Salo into the lineup next year. Future Samberg-Salomonsson 2nd pairing?

 

[Huffer]

With Salo progressing nicely and Pionk putting up crazy points in a contract year, meaning we probably don't want to extend him on the big money he'll command, it seems like there is an obvious path for Salo into the lineup next year. Future Samberg-Salomonsson 2nd pairing?

I'm definitely scared of a big contract for Pionk. He's been great this year, but this year could also be an outlier when compared to some previous seasons as well.
That being said, even if they extended Pionk, I think Salo would start on the 3rd pair anyway. It's likely a better place to get a young player started in the NHL IMO.
And then if he starts to earn more, you can always experiment moving any of Salo, Pionk, and Demelo around too.

 

[Whileee]

I'm definitely scared of a big contract for Pionk. He's been great this year, but this year could also be an outlier when compared to some previous seasons as well.
That being said, even if they extended Pionk, I think Salo would start on the 3rd pair anyway. It's likely a better place to get a young player started in the NHL IMO.
And then if he starts to earn more, you can always experiment moving any of Salo, Pionk, and Demelo around too.

Pionk's contract is going to be one of Chevy's most challenging decision going forward. I think his teammates and coaches really appreciate him and they would like to keep him, but his performance might be putting him into a contract category that would be unwise to chase. Chevy is traditionally pretty cautious in negotiations, and the only "overpays" have tended to be for "legacy" contracts for well-respected vets like Wheeler, Scheifele and Hellebuyck (overpay in term, not AAV). If Pionk maintains this level of play, it will be hard to extend him for less than $30-35M (total contract value). That might be too rich for Chevy.

Interestingly, the Jets just extended DeMelo at 4 x 4.9M. He's a year older than Pionk will be, and has been considered the Jets #1RD. I wonder if the Jets will try to give Pionk something similar, but with an extra year (i.e. around 5x5M). D get paid for points, so that might juice Pionk's market value. I just don't think Chevy will overpay by much for Pionk, and maybe Pionk will see this as the best place for him and agree to less than he might get on the open market.

 

[Huffer]

Pionk's contract is going to be one of Chevy's most challenging decision going forward. I think his teammates and coaches really appreciate him and they would like to keep him, but his performance might be putting him into a contract category that would be unwise to chase. Chevy is traditionally pretty cautious in negotiations, and the only "overpays" have tended to be for "legacy" contracts for well-respected vets like Wheeler, Scheifele and Hellebuyck (overpay in term, not AAV). If Pionk maintains this level of play, it will be hard to extend him for less than $30-35M (total contract value). That might be too rich for Chevy.

Interestingly, the Jets just extended DeMelo at 4 x 4.9M. He's a year older than Pionk will be, and has been considered the Jets #1RD. I wonder if the Jets will try to give Pionk something similar, but with an extra year (i.e. around 5x5M). D get paid for points, so that might juice Pionk's market value. I just don't think Chevy will overpay by much for Pionk, and maybe Pionk will see this as the best place for him and agree to less than he might get on the open market.

Agree with everything you said, but with Pionk currently at 5.875 and I think like you say with counting stats (and the cap going up) I think he's going to looking for a raise IMO.

Tough decision for Chevy for sure.

 

[Bob E]

Agree with everything you said, but with Pionk currently at 5.875 and I think like you say with counting stats (and the cap going up) I think he's going to looking for a raise IMO.

Tough decision for Chevy for sure.

I would think Pionk will look for a nice raise if he keeps up his current level of play and gets to 50+ points. In FA he would be looking at $7+M aav, and there’s little chance he signs for less than Morrissey at that point.

To me, Chevy can’t sign Pionk to a long term deal at around $7M especially with Salomonsson waiting in the wings. So if Pionk is only willing to sign a market deal, which is the impression I get, then do they move him and when? I can see them having Pionk as an own rental, have him falter a bit in playoffs (due to lack of size and speed) and then he signs somewhere for $ Chevy just can’t bring himself to pay.

 

[Buffdog]

Where wpuld everyone be happy with a Pionk contract. 5x6.5M?

IF (and that's a huge IF) he can keep up his play from this season, I'd maybe be OK with that.

On the other hand, I can see Salo slotting into the 2md pair like Samberg has - I'm not sure how close he is to being able to do that though. The timing is off by maybe a year or two... unless the org sees he's ready to start learning on the fly and they bring him up and shelter him on the 3rd pairing for half of this season like they did with Samberg

 

[Whileee]

I would think Pionk will look for a nice raise if he keeps up his current level of play and gets to 50+ points. In FA he would be looking at $7+M aav, and there’s little chance he signs for less than Morrissey at that point.

To me, Chevy can’t sign Pionk to a long term deal at around $7M especially with Salomonsson waiting in the wings. So if Pionk is only willing to sign a market deal, which is the impression I get, then do they move him and when? I can see them having Pionk as an own rental, have him falter a bit in playoffs (due to lack of size and speed) and then he signs somewhere for $ Chevy just can’t bring himself to pay.

I'm not sure that Pionk will command such a high price on the open market, despite the production this year. He's still a relatively small D with a bit of an uneven performance history.

I wonder how he would get more than Pesce (6 x 5.5M) or Matt Roy (6 x 5.75M). Gostisbehere only got 3.2M AAV, and he had 56 points last season.

My guess is that Pionk would consider a bit of a "hometown" discount with the Jets, and Chevy might go one year longer than he's comfortable. Maybe something in the 6 x 5.5M range. With the cap rising fast, in a couple of years that would be equivalent to around 4.75M as a cap percentage last year.