Prospect Info: Jets prospects at the 2023 World Junior Championship

[Adam da bomb]

Its not either of them but it is a current Jet

Are we supposed to guess?

Just my opinion but I think McGroaty becomes an better all around player than Lucius but I'm okay with Lucius being KFC part 2 if that ever happens

Love it than we can have all the Ehlers and Kfc debates all over again.

 

[None]

You talking Lucious or McGroarty

Its not either of them but it is a current Jet

Turns out it was about Kyle Connor

Honestly that scouting report doesn't read like Kyle Connor at all in hindsight.

 

[surixon]

Just my opinion but I think McGroaty becomes an better all around player than Lucius but I'm okay with Lucius being KFC part 2 if that ever happens

I'd say more Tyler Toffoli then Conner but

Turns out it was about Kyle Connor

Honestly that scouting report doesn't read like Kyle Connor at all in hindsight.

I can actually see it now that you mentioned it. I'd say it under sells his speed though.

 

[None]

I'd say more Tyler Toffoli then Conner but

I can actually see it now that you mentioned it. I'd say it under sells his speed though.

I think how they projected him physically and as a potential centre is questionable too. I also don't think there's ever been a willingness to engage physically, particularly along the boards like it seems to imply is part of his game.

But it is a safe assumption for a scout to make that a player would need to be more physical to have success in the NHL. It's just that it's never really been part of Connor's game. It makes me curious if that was potentially one of the knocks that teams saw in his game when projecting him and if that's why he fell.

Maybe I'm giving too much credit to NHL scouts but I think if anyone knew that Connor's game never really developed any physicality whatsoever they'd probably also never think that he could score at the rate he does.

 

[superdeluxe]

He's years away from being a good player if that. He needs to go to the dub and touch the puck a lot.

If there is one thing we are doing to some of my frustration is making one to many passes

 

[snowkiddin]

Wagner vs Lucius and McGroarty tomorrow for Bronze.

My guess is Team USA wins but I know it's tough to get motivated for bronze medal games so

So, None, who are you rooting for in that bronze game? I have not put much thought into it, and I’m just hoping for a good game. Feels gross rooting for the Amerks, but they have more Jets prospects.

 

[None]

So, None, who are you rooting for in that bronze game? I have not put much thought into it, and I’m just hoping for a good game. Feels gross rooting for the Amerks, but they have more Jets prospects.

I wouldn't say I'm cheering for any particular team, moreso for the success of the Jets prospects in the game. I think that Team USA has played better than Sweden overall and probably deserves it a little more. So probably similar to your stance that you just want a good, entertaining game.

And while it might seem like I'm cheering for Canada in the tournament I think I'm more enthralled with Bedard than any team success.

 

[snowkiddin]

I wouldn't say I'm cheering for any particular team, moreso for the success of the Jets prospects in the game. I think that Team USA has played better than Sweden overall and probably deserves it a little more. So probably similar to your stance that you just want a good, entertaining game.

And while it might seem like I'm cheering for Canada in the tournament I think I'm more enthralled with Bedard than any team success.

I thought you were Canadian born and raised? I mean, that’s why I root for Canada. Bedard can most likely lick my ass unfortunately, unless he goes to a team I don’t mind. But right now it’s fun to root for him.

 

[CorgisPer60]

I'm not an overly nationalistic or patriotic kind, so while a Canada winning is nice, it doesn't mean much to me. I much prefer to see the Jets prospects playing meaningful roles and contributing to the team. I have high hopes for all three of them in the bronze game tomorrow, though not specifically all three elevating their game in that one specific game.

 

[None]

I thought you were Canadian born and raised? I mean, that’s why I root for Canada. Bedard can most likely lick my ass unfortunately, unless he goes to a team I don’t mind. But right now it’s fun to root for him.

I am Canadian, but I don't really find much meaning in a tournament of 16-19 year old prospects. It's great entertainment but beyond that I don't view it much higher than something like the Spengler cup.

 

[snowkiddin]

I am Canadian, but I don't really find much meaning in a tournament of 16-19 year old prospects. It's great entertainment but beyond that I don't view it much higher than something like the Spengler cup.

That’s fair, the World Juniors hype is largely driven by TSN. I wish we could have a real best-on-best tourney, though.

 

[KingBogo]

I am Canadian, but I don't really find much meaning in a tournament of 16-19 year old prospects. It's great entertainment but beyond that I don't view it much higher than something like the Spengler cup.

Personally I’m a big fan of the tournament. For a lot of these guys it is the last chance at being part of an international best on best tournament. It is a great development opportunity to measure yourself against the best of your peers.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Let me share a scouting report

A responsible up and down centre-wing with excellent skating ability and feel for the attack zone. He is smart with the puck and his soft mitts allow him to hit linemates on the move, or put his hard shot on the net. Finds the open space and creates scoring chances. Has an extra gear that he can hit to get to that scoring lane. Is a patient puck-handler who can slow things down in order to break them open. Needs more credit for being a finisher, as he really can score, even though he is always willing to use his feet and then send a soft pass to a teammate. Not a hard nosed wall player but will engage. Smooth skating winger with soft hands and good instincts. His deceptive stride shows excellent acceleration which he uses to get by pairs of defenders and able to get of quality chances. When he shows more edge, intensity and activity in the high traffic areas we will be sold. Like so many youngsters, his defensive game is a work in progress. He does come back. He needs to get more overall strength and when that comes he will be not only more able to be physical but also an even stronger puck carrier.

So ....... what player is that about?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Personally I’m a big fan of the tournament. For a lot of these guys it is the last chance at being part of an international best on best tournament. It is a great development opportunity to measure yourself against the best of your peers.

It is the closest thing we have to a true World Championship.
Happens every year. All the top hockey countries are there (except Russia this time).
Best on best. No silly rules or formats.

 

[snowkiddin]

So ....... what player is that about?

Kyle Connor.

 

[SUX2BU]

So ....... what player is that about?

Could be Perfetti too

 

[Teppo Numenor]

I very much agree, now that Cole has graduated we really don't have any true blue chip prospects upfront. All of our top forward prospects have a lot of development needed to become good NHL players.

I think Mcgroarty emerges as a blue chip prospect if he plays next year in ncaa. He looks like a high end power forward who can score, i expect him to dominate next year in college.

 

[surixon]

I think Mcgroarty emerges as a blue chip prospect if he plays next year in ncaa. He looks like a high end power forward who can score, i expect him to dominate next year in college.

He definitely could get there, I've liked a lot of what I've seen. Has some Sam Bennett in him.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Wagner has looked good in the Swede games. For a 5th rounder, might have something there

 

[BoneDocUK]

I think how they projected him physically and as a potential centre is questionable too. I also don't think there's ever been a willingness to engage physically, particularly along the boards like it seems to imply is part of his game.

But it is a safe assumption for a scout to make that a player would need to be more physical to have success in the NHL. It's just that it's never really been part of Connor's game. It makes me curious if that was potentially one of the knocks that teams saw in his game when projecting him and if that's why he fell.

Maybe I'm giving too much credit to NHL scouts but I think if anyone knew that Connor's game never really developed any physicality whatsoever they'd probably also never think that he could score at the rate he does.

It's an interesting read in hindsight.

And KFC is not a small dude in size or strength. I think he does play a physical game insofar as he is terrific at puck retrieval and control and can hold things up and shake off checks while he finds the right lane, all of which contribute to his very strong passing, playmaking and cycling skills.

He's not going to deliver a bruising mid-ice check very often, but he's clearly a very tough matchup who wins plenty of 1-on-1 battles and has been durable over his career, and we know he can PK.

I wonder if the notion of "physicality" needs to be expanded in hockey to reflect how different players use strength, edgework, positioning and anticipation to make plays as opposed to "blowing a guy up along the boards."

Anyhoo. The Juniors! Bring back the gold, Connor and Co!

And I'm looking forward to catching up with some of the highlights -- somehow I'd never clocked this Wagner kid, and have seen next to nothing or Rutger Mac since we drafted him. Looks like we might have some interesting pieces in the pipeline in a few years.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Could be Perfetti too

Could describe quite a few players. Could be Ehlers - but I think it is Connor.

 

[None]

Nice goal by Lucius to put USA up 3-1

 

[gojetsgo]

lucius with a goal to make it 3-1 usa

 

[bustamente]

Lucius with a beauty

 

[None]

Nice job by Wagner's line to capitalize on a turnover. Wagner with a primary assist to tie the game 3-3.