Post-Game Talk: Jets noogie the Canuckleheads 4-1

[LowLefty]

I think this was a case of almost any change being an improvement. So the new lines and new PP worked. I don't think things are optimized yet but it is some steps in the right direction.

Our D still gave up some scary chances but Helle managed to take care of them. We are still seeing our experienced, veteran D men making mental mistakes - but no one is perfect.

All-in-all, I think this team is starting to come together. As long as Helle can keep bailing us out a few times a game we should be able to hold our own.

I agree -
Consistency will be the measuring stick going forward - we have looked pretty good at times.

 

[10Ducky10]

little isn't going to the 4th line.

Bring him back slowly with 4th line and some PK time.

 

[10Ducky10]

I love confirmation bias. Myers had a bad bobble at a critical time against a very dangerous player - but he made a lot of good plays in that game. He probably prevented one or two goals with superb defense.

He's not worth 6 MM but man people love to dump on players and not give any credit where credit is due.

TSN has him down for 2 giveaways but I promise you there were more. A very poor passer especially ih his own zone.
He is a very good 3RHD with good offensive instincts that is overpaid...I gave credit where credit is due. If I had a choice between Pionk and Myers at the same caphit, I would take Pionk all day, every day.

 

[Jets 31]

Correct me if I'm wrong (like THAT needs to be said in this forum), but there was an article in the New York Post that reported Jake was willing to go to any of the 3 teams that would be within 25-50 miles of where his fiancée would be in medical school. Unfortunately, I didn't bring the newspaper home with me.

You may be right but even 3 teams isn't great odds of getting a fair value trade . Lot easier for Chevy to get a good trade if he has every team to trade with .

 

[jefferoni]

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

That first powerplay was incredible. 2 minutes non stop possession by the first unit. First time I have seen that with the Jets.

That said I don't think Copp touched the puck once.

 

[ps241]

Couple of thoughts....

I really wish Scheifele played in his own end the way he does down low in the offensive end. Same with Connor.

Ehlers- Roslovic looks like a very good thing, and Wheeler looked solid in the middle.

Kulikov really struggled. The problem with most of our LHD is lack of consistency. Kulikov, Beaulieu, Sbisa, Bitetto, Dahlstrom can all have good periods or games, but they have way too many bad shifts, periods, games to be more than 3rd pairing or below. Hard to see how Niku or even Stanley wouldn't be an option this year. Focus on assessment and development of young D, not treading water with 5 replacement level D.

Pionk does a lot of things well, but he needs to find a way of neutralizing bigger forwards when they have puck possession. Trouba, Buff and even Myers were able to neutralize and create turnovers when they encountered opposing forwards due to size and reach. Pionk needs to find ways of doing this better despite size differences. Maybe he should watch more tape of Enstrom, or emulate Morrissey.

I love Mark but I am disappointed he uses Adam one trick pony Oats to consult still. For a driven guy his lack of passion to get better at defending in his own zone is problematic. Mark should be like GSP and hire a consultant to advise and review his progress at defending. He needs to find his Freddie Roach (GSP’s boxing coach).

 

[ps241]

Not too many weaknesses to talk about last night.

Kulikov unfortunately was one of them. I really want him to succeed but man right now, he's slow to pucks, slow to react, and slow to make decisions. I'd take Sbisa or Bitteto over him right now.

Beaulieu, aside from his horrid giveaway on that ill advised switch was decent and continues to get back up to game speed.

For what Sbisa is, he's been pretty solid. Our problem, obviously, is we have too many 6/7 guys. When Heinola was with the team, I didn't mind Niku on the Moose as we would simply be too physically overmatched with Morrissey, Pionk, Heinola and Niku all playing. With Ville heading back overseas, it's time to bring Sami back up. For me, Dahlstrom and Kulikov are our weakest D, and with Niku up and Beau back, we can limit exposure with any of our bottom guys. Unfortunately, knowing Maurice and Kulikov's contract, he will be a regular if he's healthy. That means we have a real glut of PB guys and I'm not sure what the team is going to do. Maybe waivers for a couple?

Morrissey - Niku
Beaulieu - Pionk
Kulikov -Poolman

I'd honestly rather have Bitteto playing on that bottom pair and Kuli sitting.

Forwards looked so dynamic and creative. Really exciting to see that make a return after a very slow, boring bunch of games from them this year. Hope Maurice can resist the temptation to put 55 and 26 back together again.

Both the PP and PK looked a lot more active and that led to success.

Of course, the Canucks looked tired and that probably helped the Jets out.

Yea you nailed it. We have too many 6/7 guys and that makes it pretty tough to build a D core. Hard working scrappy group but they don’t have the chops. Not sure if the plan is to bury Sami all season or not only time will.

 

[Duke749]

I love Mark but I am disappointed he uses Adam one trick pony Oats to consult still. For a driven guy his lack of passion to get better at defending in his own zone is problematic. Mark should be like GSP and hire a consultant to advise and review his progress at defending. He needs to find his Freddie Roach (GSP’s boxing coach).

Ya know, I’m not even that mad at him, just very disappointed he won’t make a true commitment to a two way game. No matter how deep our team is, I’m not sure we win a Cup with our #1 center playing like that.

 

[ovythegiraffe]

The blender worked! Looked like a completely new team out there. Felt like a weight was lifted of this team with splitting Wheels and Scheif and mixing the pp (could be just me after bitching about it for a year now)

First line took some time to get going, but looked like it could be dominant once the chemistries click.

Wheeler looked surprisingly good as a center, and that line created a lot of chances.

Both pp units looked really dangerous too. Showed that with the offensive talent we have, there's no need to be clinging on to a system that once worked great, there will be new systems that will also work great.

If Helly keeps up the good work, this could turn out to be a very fun season!

 

[10Ducky10]

Both pp units looked really dangerous too. Showed that with the offensive talent we have, there's no need to be clinging on to a system that once worked great, there will be new systems that will also work great.

Jamie Kompon is supposed to be in charge of the PP. Are the changes due to him or Maurice or??? I don't think Little's injury had THAT much to do with the PP changes.
I think what they have done is not have all their eggs in one basket on the 1PP.
Laine and Wheeler with Roslo, Pionk and MP on one and Ehlers with Copper, JMo, Scheif and KC on the other...that's two pretty good PP units.

 

[ps241]

Ya know, I’m not even that mad at him, just very disappointed he won’t make a true commitment to a two way game. No matter how deep our team is, I’m not sure we win a Cup with our #1 center playing like that.

I think he is getting really bad advice from a trusted advisor who is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

 

[Duke749]

I think he is getting really bad advice from a trusted advisor who who is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Are you referencing Adam Oates here? Because that was when his play did tail off defensively. IMO of course.

 

[NorCalhockey]

Scoring first on the Jets?

Duuuude, wish I could rep you a million for including a Princess Bride reference paired with the Jets!

 

[NorCalhockey]

Yea you nailed it. We have too many 6/7 guys and that makes it pretty tough to build a D core. Hard working scrappy group but they don’t have the chops. Not sure if the plan is to bury Sami all season or not only time will.

Yep, for me, even with all the good feels from this win, I see Jets as a bubble team to make the playoffs as WC1/2 with all these 6/7 Dmen. Helle has been GREAT so far, but don't know when we'll see (and for how long) last season's Helle. Thus, like I said, bubble team to make playoffs as a wild card over the course of 82 games.

 

[ps241]

Are you referencing Adam Oates here? Because that was when his play did tail off defensively. IMO of course.

Yes.

 

[kanadalainen]

Watching Philly take on la Leafettes d'Arbres. Don Cherry featured Big Adam Lowry's week.

 

[raideralex99]

Yep, for me, even with all the good feels from this win, I see Jets as a bubble team to make the playoffs as WC1/2 with all these 6/7 Dmen. Helle has been GREAT so far, but don't know when we'll see (and for how long) last season's Helle. Thus, like I said, bubble team to make playoffs as a wild card over the course of 82 games.

Wow ... seriously think positive.
It's a long season anything can happen and right now the Jets have had their share of bad luck and are 9-7-1 which is a good thing.
Maybe last year's Helle was a fluke?
I know he had a few bad games which every player has but he also had a few unlucky bounces.
The Jets made it through their toughest part of this year's schedule in pretty good shape so don't count them out.

 

[Jet]

Sbisa got the helmet last night - nice!

 

[Jets 31]

I assume they mean this one

That took Connor 4 seconds to go from our blueline to putting the puck in the net . McDavid , McShmaded .