Injury Report: Jets health in the playoffs

[Tom ServoMST3K]

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I prescribe more mouse bites.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Unfortunately not up to you or me. So the only thing you can do is root for whoever plays that 3rd pairing spot.
We also have worse options like Heinola.

Oh, I am the king of “everything happens for a reason” and “don’t worry about what hasn’t happened”.

It’s just my HFJets opinion.

 

[Jets 31]

Yeah, recency bias and Stanley Derangement Syndrom can cloud people's opinions pretty easily

Stanley - Miller was statistically the best 3rd pairing we had all season

Ya i have always liked Stanley.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

This relates to a question I was going to ask ( for anyone ) re concussion protocol.

The incident happens during the game, Chef gets laid out, gets up and keeps playing. At no time did the spotter remove Chef from the game re the NHL Concussion Protocol. He leaves the game in the intermission. Now assuming he is looked at by the doctor, and the doctor says he has a concussion, does the team have to call up he NHL officials and report that the player has a concussion? What if he showed no symptoms during the intermission and he’s just kept out as a precaution, but has symptoms hours after the game. Again he is seen by the team doctor, and same question…do the Jets have to report it to the league? Remember the spotter didn’t pull him out of the game.

Basically, what is the team’s obligation to reporting a suspected concussion? When the spotter at the game saw no issue?

Interesting question. My guess is that they have to report it, they have to put player in concussion protocol.

 

[Jet]

Playoffs so far.... (edit: 5v5)



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It's wild, Stanley keeps bucking fans opinion's with stats, which probably drives the stats nerds crazy.

For me is more of an indictment of the stats. I don't think Stanley is near as bad as people think, but i don't think he's a good as the stats painted him to be this season or in the playoffs.

I think every mistake he makes is magnified to the 100x, and when he does f*** up it's sometimes a doozy.

It's a very interesting phenomenon.

 

[Buffdog]

It's wild, Stanley keeps bucking fans opinion's with stats, which probably drives the stats nerds crazy.

For me is more of an indictment of the stats. I don't think Stanley is near as bad as people think, but i don't think he's a good as the stats painted him to be this season or in the playoffs.

I think every mistake he makes is magnified to the 100x, and when he does f*** up it's sometimes a doozy.

It's a very interesting phenomenon.

He's a polarizing player for sure

I think that there is a certain portion of the population that just feel comfortable going along with whatever views are popular at a given time. Not everyone is cut out to be a critical thinker, and it takes a certain degree of confidence and security in one's self to stand up and disagree with the mob

You can tell where someone gets their news from these days within 30 seconds of listening to their viewpoint on any given topic. People can be very tribal that way

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

You guys and your baseless concussion speculation

It isn't baseless. It is speculation.

 

[kylbaz]

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I posted in the post game thread that in my Dr Nick Riviera / Dr Jim Montgomery lite medical opinion…two arms up is a good sign that it isn’t a shoulder issue.

Kinda odd. You'd think with any shoulder, arm or rib injury he would not be moving so easily or the very least grimacing in pain. Wonder what it can be, and hopefully this is a good sign that it's not something major. Could also be full of drugs

 

[Buffdog]

It isn't baseless. It is speculation.

I mean, there is SOME reason to believe it's a concussion

The return to play protocol for a concussion seems to be fairly similar to what Schief has been going through. Not many other upper body injuries heal that quickly

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

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I posted in the post game thread that in my Dr Nick Riviera / Dr Jim Montgomery lite medical opinion…two arms up is a good sign that it isn’t a shoulder issue.

Or collarbone either.
So ......... what then? He wouldn't be doing that if at was a concussion either.

 

[JetsUK]

It's wild, Stanley keeps bucking fans opinion's with stats, which probably drives the stats nerds crazy.

For me is more of an indictment of the stats. I don't think Stanley is near as bad as people think, but i don't think he's a good as the stats painted him to be this season or in the playoffs.

I think every mistake he makes is magnified to the 100x, and when he does f*** up it's sometimes a doozy.

It's a very interesting phenomenon.

BBM and agree.

Along with his draft baggage— emphatically not his fault — Stan’s panic episodes plus 3rd pairing status mean he’s a high-event player in a low-event role. Hard to play unsheltered and can’t always be sheltered.

Luke is a kind of chaos force-multiplier on that pairing, esp with his penchant for impactful penalties.

 

[Buffdog]

Or collarbone either.
So ......... what then? He wouldn't be doing that if at was a concussion either.

Hangnail?

Those can really hurt

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Hangnail?

Those can really hurt

Hurt feelings?

(not really - Josh is tougher than that)

 

[KingBogo]

Scheif is taking reps on PP1 - I'd say he's back for game one.

And changing the title of this thread to "I'm not a doctor, but..." would be pretty funny.

Schiefele playing seems likely at this point, based on PP1 practice time and doing line rushes with the team. Morrissey maybe a little longer, but very positive he is skating with a non contact jersey prior to practice.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Well that to me indicates JoMo isn't out long term which is great news.

Yup, but unlikely he plays tomorrow.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

I mean, there is SOME reason to believe it's a concussion

The return to play protocol for a concussion seems to be fairly similar to what Schief has been going through. Not many other upper body injuries heal that quickly

Not even flying to StL for game six, but still almost playing in game seven is why I assumed it was a concussion.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I hope watching Fleury outskate his opponents in game 7 showed that we need more speed not more notspeed.

More so against Dallas than against StL.

 

[voyageur]

Yup, but unlikely he plays tomorrow.

I don't know about that one. I think people are reading a lot into PP. It could be that Josh has a shoulder injury that limits his range of mobility affecting his shot, which would negate his PP effectiveness.

I can say that I've played hockey when I couldn't lift my arm above my head. But it was no contact hockey. Same shoulder too, if what I saw was correct.

If he can skate and play the puck maybe he gets in the lineup, the wheels and smarts are still valuable. You could tell from the anthem in game 7 he was playing in pain, just by the look on his face.

Hockey is one part playing through the pain.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

It’s crazy it’s as if ppl want Stan to fail so they can be right.
Even if it’s just the coaches, who led team to top of league insisting on Stan playing he’ll be in at some point in round.

I’m more concerned with Helly than I am with Stan who will play 10 minutes a game.

Helle played the last half of gm 7 like his normal self. I'm hopeful that he has got his mojo back. But still concerned.

 

[surixon]

Stanley has been solid for the most part in his role. The issue is him and Schenn have the same weaknesses in their respective games and don't function as a bottom pairing.

Neither is really suited for the top 4 so you really can only dress one in a given game.

 

[raideralex99]

Speaking of Stanley when did he get injured?
Upper or lower injury?
He left game 6 with the bogus 2 mins and misconduct for talking there were no cross-checks or punches exchanged.
I thought he was just scratched but wearing yellow jersey today suggests otherwise.

 

[bustamente]

I'm still sticking to it being a back problem with Joshua.

 

[10Ducky10]

I'm still sticking to it being a back problem with Joshua.

Bruised ribs?

 

[bustamente]

Bruised ribs?

Possibly but I'm thinking lower back triggering back spasms.

 

[voyageur]

I'm still sticking to it being a back problem with Joshua.

If you slow down the replay, it sure looks like the point of contact from Sundqvist is the left shoulder. Morrissey comes back out an makes a hit with his right shoulder, and it probably jolted him enough that he was in distress after it. I am not medically inclined to speak of the exact nature of the injury, but even from the first hit you can see that Josh is turning to avoid the contact directly, and Sundqvist targets a specific area. I'm sure the Blues would know he's hurt, and so will Dallas, but they aren't as heavy of a team, with 3 scoring lines, and Dadonov on the 4th line.