Friedman: Jets and Rutger McGroarty are not talking - his name is coming up in trade talks

[Hunter368]

C or RD prospects. Guhle would get it done.

It's already been established that:
-Mailloux is not Jets material based on character
-Barron is an add-in piece, nothing more
-Xhekaj is the same
-Hutson isn't likely to be an ideal solution

There will be a bidding war and Chevy won't make a bad deal for the sake of making a deal. If anything, this incident has increased Rutger's value since everyone knows he's available.

Just speaking on the Habs bc you brought them up, Guhle isn’t realistic bc he’s more proven. Not sure where Rutger gets dealt to but it won’t be for Guhle. A lot of the usual suspects Habs fans throw in offers aren’t interesting either but Guhle won’t happen.

 

[HuGo Sham]

…or we’ll trade him elsewhere? There is no shortage teams who want him and we’re not beholden to Montreal lowballs. If you won’t pay what it takes, keep moving.

Bye

 

[Beendair Donedat]

C or RD prospects. Guhle would get it done.

It's already been established that:
-Mailloux is not Jets material based on character
-Barron is an add-in piece, nothing more
-Xhekaj is the same
-Hutson isn't likely to be an ideal solution

There will be a bidding war and Chevy won't make a bad deal for the sake of making a deal. If anything, this incident has increased Rutger's value since everyone knows he's available.

If the Habs were willing to part with Guhle, and I don’t think they are, what would the Jets be adding to the deal? Guhle has already proven to be able to play both the left and right side and on the top pair. It would have to be something fairly decent.

 

[Scintillating10]

The Jets don't need to rush a trade. They have two years to get it done. If nothing suitable presents itself, and maybe something will after Free Agent Frenzy and rosters are more established, maybe then. Or next draft.

Imagine Jets could use help now. Their window to win is open

 

[Finnflash]

If Montreal wants him why wouldn’t they just wait 2 years and sign him for free.

 

[Buffdog]

If the Habs were willing to part with Guhle, and I don’t think they are, what would the Jets be adding to the deal? Guhle has already proven to be able to play both the left and right side and on the top pair. It would have to be something fairly decent.

The thing is that the Jets don't have interest in Guhle, but the Habs have interest in McG

Chevy will set his price, if MTL doesn't meet it, he moves on to the next offer

Habs don't set the terms here

 

[Hunter368]

If the Habs were willing to part with Guhle, and I don’t think they are, what would the Jets be adding to the deal? Guhle has already proven to be able to play both the left and right side and on the top pair. It would have to be something fairly decent.

Habs would never trade Guhle, while he plays top pairing on the habs he's not really a top pairing guy especially on a competitive/playoff team......yet but he has potential to be. That trade would never happen, unrealistic. Not worth talking about, Rutger is a very nice prospect and projects to be a top 6 winger with grit and leadership skills.

Habs/Jets trade could happen, but it would include other piece from the Habs. Just talking to the list the one poster listed (not saying there couldn't be other prospects from the habs) it really comes down to how the Jets feel about them (they all have issues/concerns, either skill, character or size) . What we know there is lots/significant of interest around the league, insiders all stated that, what we don't know is the value Chevy or other GM's place on Rutger. Also some insiders have commented that Ehlers & Rutger might get traded together on or after July 1st so Ehlers new contract can be dealt with which would increase Ehlers value more then it is now. Rutger & extended Ehlers would bring a nice return.

You asked a few posts back what the Jets needs are, they are 2c and top 4 RHD, either roster players or prospects who can fill those roles in the future.

 

[Mersss]

The thing is that the Jets don't have interest in Guhle, but the Habs have interest in McG

Chevy will set his price, if MTL doesn't meet it, he moves on to the next offer

Habs don't set the terms here

Not True...

Chevy can ask all he wants, but at the end of the day he is sitting on a timebomb and the longer he waits, the lower his value gets

 

[57special]

Might also be waiting till July 1, if there is a trade to happen where Ehlers & Rutger are packaged together, then Ehlers can be extended as of July 1. Ehlers (extended) & Rutger would bring back a pretty nice return. Just saying its another possibility/option. This would maximize Ehler's value, if extended.

I think it's tougher to get value when you package players, and overall, just tougher to get a deal done. i also think that WPG will get a better read on what player to go after in the 2nd deal after they complete the first one.

As a MN fan, after thinking about, I am hoping that Guerin doesn't trade Rossi for McG. In retrospect, really glad that we didn't trade the #13(12) + 2nd, which some were talking about. Buium and Ritchie for McG is pretty rich.

 

[kylbaz]

I agree. I think #21 + Barron was certainly in the ballpark.

Now that #21 is gone, I don't think it is possible anymore.

Trash offer, that's not even close.

 

[gojetsgo]

Not True...

Chevy can ask all he wants, but at the end of the day he is sitting on a timebomb and the longer he waits, the lower his value gets

yes yes yes, we know, were going to have to give him away like every other player who has asked for a trade

 

[Michoulicious]

Trash offer, that's not even close.

No, it's not. What do you expect, a top 10 pick? Kid was drafted 14 OA.

21+ is pretty decent. I'd value Barron to at least a 2nd rounder.

 

[Mersss]

yes yes yes, we know, were going to have to give him away like every other player who has asked for a trade

Its not only that. Its the cact that Jets have 2 years to trade him...

Actually, one year cause if acter next year he goes public to say he wont sing in WIN like Fox did, his value plummets to what, a 2nd rder ish?

 

[CanMerc]

What’s with the Guhle stuff…Jets need RHD…that’s not Guhle.

Personally, I don’t see any fit with MTL for a trade involving McG

 

[kylbaz]

No, it's not. What do you expect, a top 10 pick? Kid was drafted 14 OA.

21+ is pretty decent. I'd value Barron to at least a 2nd rounder.

14th overall and value has gone up significantly with what he's done. Look at any draft and how many picks in the top 15 don't accomplish anything in the following years. He's worth way more than a mid round pick right now. Obviously only fans but some fan bases were offering a top 10 pick for him. And you're offering 21

 

[gojetsgo]

Its not only that. Its the cact that Jets have 2 years to trade him...

Actually, one year cause if acter next year he goes public to say he wont sing in WIN like Fox did, his value plummets to what, a 2nd rder ish?

we may even have to pay a team to take him at that point

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If he was traded, would he still be going back to Michigan for this year, or would he go NHL if they wanted?

 

[Michoulicious]

14th overall and value has gone up significantly with what he's done. Look at any draft and how many picks in the top 15 don't accomplish anything in the following years. He's worth way more than a mid round pick right now. Obviously only fans but some fan bases were offering a top 10 pick for him. And you're offering 21

So you expect a top 10 pick for him? lol

Won't happen.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

The thing is that the Jets don't have interest in Guhle, but the Habs have interest in McG

Chevy will set his price, if MTL doesn't meet it, he moves on to the next offer

Habs don't set the terms here

I never claimed they did?

I was responding to Tasteless Beaver who brought up Guhle as a return, and I asked what the Jets were adding. Guhle is a proven asset on the rise, McGroarty while a great prospect, isn’t at that level. Yet.

I’m not trying to lowball Jets fans who are undoubtedly leery of Habs fans from the PLD drama. Just looking to see what the cost would be and what may interest the Jets in a return.

 

[gojetsgo]

If he was traded, would he still be going back to Michigan for this year, or would he go NHL if they wanted?

it seems the reason he wants to be traded is because he wants to play in the nhl so probably would sign with the team that trades for him

 

[57special]

No thanks on Rossi

You might want to re-adjust your sights a little bit. Rossi just had a 20g, 40 point rookie season in the NHL playing C, after two P/pg AHL seasons. Do you really think that McGroarty's 16 goal college season is more impressive?

 

[StumpyTown]

After the Jets experiences with players like Kane and PLD I can't imagine that Chevy would take a flyer on Mailloux unless the Habs were virtually giving him away for nothing.

 

[Weezeric]

You might want to re-adjust your sights a little bit. Rossi just had a 20g, 40 point rookie season in the NHL playing C, after two P/pg AHL seasons. Do you really think that McGroarty's college 16 goal college season is more impressive?

Brock Faber only scored 7 goals in three years of college hockey. He turned out ok.

 

[Mersss]

we may even have to pay a team to take him at that point

Not what I am saying.

But any Pegs fan hoping to get a top pairing D or a top6 player for a prospect that mentioned won't sign with then are delusionnal.

See Cutter Gauthier (who was a much better player than Mcgroarty)

 

[57special]

Habs would never trade Guhle, while he plays top pairing on the habs he's not really a top pairing guy especially on a competitive/playoff team......yet but he has potential to be. That trade would never happen, unrealistic. Not worth talking about, Rutger is a very nice prospect and projects to be a top 6 winger with grit and leadership skills.

Habs/Jets trade could happen, but it would include other piece from the Habs. Just talking to the list the one poster listed (not saying there couldn't be other prospects from the habs) it really comes down to how the Jets feel about them (they all have issues/concerns, either skill, character or size) . What we know there is lots/significant of interest around the league, insiders all stated that, what we don't know is the value Chevy or other GM's place on Rutger. Also some insiders have commented that Ehlers & Rutger might get traded together on or after July 1st so Ehlers new contract can be dealt with which would increase Ehlers value more then it is now. Rutger & extended Ehlers would bring a nice return.

You asked a few posts back what the Jets needs are, they are 2c and top 4 RHD, either roster players or prospects who can fill those roles in the future.

Would jets go for an Ehlers + McG for Zegras +?