Friedman: Jets and Rutger McGroarty are not talking - his name is coming up in trade talks

[Heldig]

Would there be any interest in Bogdan Konyushkov (Habs prospect) from Winnipeg?

21 year old, right hand shot defenseman, playing in the KHL, captain of his team - Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod - and a guy that his coach Igor Larionov relies upon heavily, playing over 24 minutes a game. In fact Larionov said (this year) that he could play in the NHL and be a key defenseman. Has a very good shot, sees the ice well, physical but needs to improve his skating stride and bulk up.

Kind of a well rounded defenseman in that he can play the powerplay, he can kill penalties, he plays a shutdown role and moves the puck well. Extremely confident, he breaks up plays and doesn’t panic, holding the puck to make a safe outlet and controlled break out passes. Projects to be a top 4 defender when he makes the jump to North America.

Say a package of Konyushkov, Justin Barron, the Calgary 1st rounder for 2025, and a 2025 3rd round pick (one of Devils or Canucks) for McGroarty?

You’d be getting a good right hand shot defenseman prospect, a decent right hand shot defender that can slot in on your bottom pair now and add some scoring, recoup a 1st rounder while adding another 3rd rounder.

McGroarty makes the Habs bigger and more skilled up front, adding an element they were lacking previously.

And as always, I’m simply asking if Jets fans think something like that would be close in value for their asset, not looking to troll or start a pissing match with anyone.

That is a very good futures offer.

 

[Buffdog]

The only thing Barron has over the #6D (Stanley) is that he is a RHS.

Barron has put up 30 points in 97 games vs 22 in 139 for Stanley. He's outscored Stanley at every level

It would be another story if you could say "well, yeah, but Stanley is excellent defensively" or something lol

So that, plus the right shot, means he's at least a moderate upgrade on Stanley. Not to mention that Barron has had to play on a shitty Habs team

People will hate to see this comparison, but Barron has scored at a similar clip in their limited NHL time as Ville "The Poster Boy for Mishandled Prospects" Heinola, despite Heinola outscoring him by about 25% in the AHL

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Buffalo is loaded with several C/W types that are on the smaller side. Mixing up their pool makes sense.

That could be a fit. Kulich? Savoie? Ostlund? Jets like one of that type?

 

[Heldig]

That could be a fit. Kulich? Savoie? Ostlund? Jets like one of that type?

Any of those 3 probably will do, in that order.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Chevy not in driers seat this time. McG could walk for nil

Not quite. If he walks in 2 years we get a good 2nd round pick from the NHL.

His whole thing is making the NHL asap, he's not gonna want to end up sitting out 2 years anyway.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Chevy not in driers seat this time. McG could walk for nil

In 2 years.

 

[jgimp]

They do but it won't be in the same position or year as next year's 2nd for the Sharks which is probably around 35 compared to that compensatory pick which will be at 56 and in 2027.

Not quite. If he walks in 2 years we get a good 2nd round pick from the NHL.

His whole thing is making the NHL asap, he's not gonna want to end up sitting out 2 years anyway.

Plus it kicks McG’s potential earnings post ELC down the road 2 years potentially costing him millions in lost income.

 

[broc]

Chevy not in driers seat this time. McG could walk for nil

lol okay. We’ve heard that schtick many times before.

He’s ours for 2 more years. There’s really no GM better in the crosshairs than Chevy.

He 100% percent in the drivers seat

 

[Lockin17]

MTL : Beck + Mesar
for
WPG : Mcgroarty

 

[gojetsgo]

MTL : Beck
for
WPG : Mcgroarty

nope

 

[Lockin17]

nope

Beck + Mesar ?

 

[CanMerc]

MTL : Beck
for
WPG : Mcgroarty

LMFAO…I really needed that laugh…say it again…come on…

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Any news from Winnipeg? Feel like rumors stopped since the draft

 

[gojetsgo]

Any news from Winnipeg? Feel like rumors stopped since the draft

quiet, but it's always quiet around the jets, most rumors come from other teams

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I know Vegas usually trades away the prospects, but what about Karlsson?

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Any news from Winnipeg? Feel like rumors stopped since the draft

Keep in mind that this issue became known because sources across the league indicated they had heard McGroarty was being discussed in trade talks. Reporters reached out to the Jets and to McGroarty's camp to find out what was happening, but neither commented, so reporters were left to speculate. Someone in the Minnesota organization was likely one of those sources because we had an indication of what Chevy wanted in return from Minnesota on Friday. You won't hear any more leaks since Chevy absolutely will not discuss the situation in any detail and the leaker(s) are out. Unless a trade happens, or McGroarty's camp gets very impatient, we'll be in the dark.

 

[HabsCode]

LMFAO…I really needed that laugh…say it again…come on…

I'm not saying that the offer you responded to makes sense, but this kind of response is very low effort. Why not make a counter-offer instead? What would it take from Montreal to get McGroarty? If nothing is interesting in your opinion on the Montreal side, mention it instead of playing the wise guy.

 

[Snowman]

I'm not saying that the offer you responded to makes sense, but this kind of response is very low effort. Why not make a counter-offer instead? What would it take from Montreal to get McGroarty? If nothing is interesting in your opinion on the Montreal side, mention it instead of playing the wise guy.

As if that hasn't been tried a hundred times already in this thread. We're dealing with Montreal fans, if a Jet fan mentions anything that even comes close to being fair, it's "Winnipeg has no leverage, you're lucky we're offering this crap, well just sign him for free in 2 years". All those low effort kind of responses from Montreal fans.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

I'm not saying that the offer you responded to makes sense, but this kind of response is very low effort. Why not make a counter-offer instead? What would it take from Montreal to get McGroarty? If nothing is interesting in your opinion on the Montreal side, mention it instead of playing the wise guy.

Please read the last 5 pages before saying things like this.

 

[HabsCode]

As if that hasn't been tried a hundred times already in this thread. We're dealing with Montreal fans, if a Jet fan mentions anything that even comes close to being fair, it's "Winnipeg has no leverage, you're lucky we're offering this crap, well just sign him for free in 2 years". All those low effort kind of responses from Montreal fans.

In all honesty I haven't taken the time to read all the pages of this thread, was there a counter-offer offered from Winnipeg fans? I'm really curious to know if there would be a possible deal between the two parties and I don't side with the "Winnipeg is in trouble and they need to quickly make a move" camp.

Please read the last 5 pages before saying things like this.

I will.

 

[Heldig]

In all honesty I haven't taken the time to read all the pages of this thread, was there a counter-offer offered from Winnipeg fans? I'm really curious to know if there would be a possible deal between the two parties and I don't side with the "Winnipeg is in trouble and they need to quickly make a move" camp.


I will.

Beck is not worth McGroarty by himself.

It was speculated Minnesota was hedging on a deal for 12th OA but reneged when Buium was still available.

 

[scarbrow]

Based on trade request:
Liljegren + Robertson
for
Stanley + McGrorty

 

[SteelCityCannon]

If the requirement is a defenseman then I would think it wouldnt work with Columbus. I'd offer Kent Johnson though.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

If the requirement is a defenseman then I would think it wouldnt work with Columbus. I'd offer Kent Johnson though.

I think Jets would take that.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Beck is not worth McGroarty by himself.

It was speculated Minnesota was hedging on a deal for 12th OA but reneged when Buium was still available.

Small correction. Our pick was 13th overall, but then we traded up to Philly's #12 pick for Buium.