Friedman: Jets and Rutger McGroarty are not talking - his name is coming up in trade talks

[Thechozen1]

He won’t get trade to Montreal. Why do Montreal fans care so much about what his supposed value will or will not be?

 

[ameselare]

He won’t get trade to Montreal. Why do Montreal fans care so much about what his supposed value will or will not be?

Nobody cares more about prospects than Habs fans

 

[CanMerc]

Chychrun straight up for Rutger?

Jets don’t need LHD and shouldn’t be wasting assets to acquire one or cap to pay one.
If we can’t get an RHD, then we still shouldn’t be wasting assets on an unneeded LHD.

 

[broc]

So there was a reason why they didn't actually get 13. Nobody gave anything for him the Jets wanted. Their leverage isn't going to improve or even stay what it was two days ago now that there is more uncertainty around everyone's draft position for next year. I don't think teams are really willing to give what Jets fans are being led to believe is out there.

Jets have heard for YEARS,”you’re not going to get fair value”, or to “be prepared to be underwhelmed at the return”, “Jets don’t have any leverage”

We’ve heard this about Evander Kane, Jacob Trouba, PLD, Laine,etc

Each time Chevy got back good.

So yeah, the terrible offer of a 2nd rd pick isn’t gonna make Chevy blink

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

To
W Rutger McGroarty

To
D Wyatt Kaiser
Leafs 2025 1st round pick (Top 10 protected)

Jets get a 21 yr. old dman who plays both LD or RD (Shots left) and played in NHL/AHL last year finishing year in NHL (Before going back for AHL playoffs) and a 1st for coming draft

 

[gojetsgo]

To
W Rutger McGroarty

To
D Wyatt Kaiser
Leafs 2025 1st round pick (Top 10 protected)

Jets get a 21 yr. old dman who plays both LD or RD (Shots left) and played in NHL/AHL last year finishing year in NHL (Before going back for AHL playoffs) and a 1st for coming draft

this doesn't help the jets at all

 

[CanMerc]

To
W Rutger McGroarty

To
D Wyatt Kaiser
Leafs 2025 1st round pick (Top 10 protected)

Jets get a 21 yr. old dman who plays both LD or RD (Shots left) and played in NHL/AHL last year finishing year in NHL (Before going back for AHL playoffs) and a 1st for coming draft

Jets need RHD
This does nothing for us

 

[Budz]

Liljegren and a fifth from TO.

 

[gojetsgo]

Liljegren and a fifth from TO.

so nothing of value...

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Jets need RHD
This does nothing for us

Connor Murphy (50%) + Hawks 2025 2nd

Jets get a vet RHD who at 50% retained would carry a cap hit of just $2.2M over next 2 years

 

[Xoggz22]

But we took Rutger at #14 and he has since continued to perform at at least that quality - why would we downgrade to ~35?

I think the other poster is off on his compensation for the loss of a 1st rounder. As I understand it, the Jets would get the 14th pick in the 2nd round if it came to that. By my math that would be 46, not 56. Ultimately I think what he/she is getting at is that the Sharks 2nd round pick next year is likely to be much better than the Jets compensation pick of 46 when that time comes - not chance it comes to that in my opinion.

Not a Jets fan so just an outsider. Clearly that isn't enough even though I understand the logic. There are multiple teams with interest so even if the draft compensation comes down to a 2nd, there will be more involved to get McGroarty. I have no idea what that is but I'm anxiously watching Columbus closely on this one. Althoug based on what it appears Waddell wants to build, I'm not sure McGroarty is the high end skater he appears to covet, but he has so many other traits that fit what I think CBJ is trying to get to.

 

[Budz]

so nothing of value...

Enlighten us all on worth. What will he fetch?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Enlighten us all on worth. What will he fetch?

More then what you offered

 

[gojetsgo]

Enlighten us all on worth. What will he fetch?

if buium wasn't available he would have been traded for the 13th at the very least

 

[Mrfenn92]

Connor Murphy (50%) + Hawks 2025 2nd

Jets get a vet RHD who at 50% retained would carry a cap hit of just $2.2M over next 2 years

Jets say no

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Do Jets fans have a list of RDs they'd consider acceptable? I'm not seeing a ton out there that makes sense from the rebuilding teams.

 

[CanMerc]

Do Jets fans have a list of RDs they'd consider acceptable? I'm not seeing a ton out there that makes sense from the rebuilding teams.

Hard to say because it depends on several factors…
Is it McG alone, McG + pick(s), or maybe a Ehlers + McG package…or will it be Ehlers (+) for and RHD and McG for a young C/RW prospect
I know what I’d like to see happen, and that is likely different from what other Jets fans want…and also depends on if it’s even an available option.
Also, because nothing absolutely needs to be done until next TDL at the earliest, Chevy has all kinds of time to shop and deal
It’s a fluid situation that’s hard to call

 

[gojetsgo]

Do Jets fans have a list of RDs they'd consider acceptable? I'm not seeing a ton out there that makes sense from the rebuilding teams.

I doubt we will get a rhd, we probably just go after the best prospect/picks or package of prospect/picks offered atp

 

[Budz]

More then what you offered

Change the pick to a 2nd?

 

[NotOpie]

the reason he wants out is because he wants to play in the nhl, I don't think it will be that hard to get him to sign with who ever trades for him imo

I just don't think any team trades for him without some sort of ironc.ad guarantee....sign and trade or something

 

[CanMerc]

Curious what CGY would want for Rasmus Andersson?

 

[gojetsgo]

I just don't think any team trades for him without some sort of ironc.ad guarantee....sign and trade or something

I think any team trading for him will know that he will sign, just like 90% of the free agents who will magically have there contracts done at 12:01 tomorrow

 

[dugg133]

Is it still expected that this kid gets moved despite it not happening at the draft? If I was the Jets I wouldn't really have a huge amount of urgency to get it done now unless someone meets their asking price, can always wait til the deadline and move him for help then when you have a better understanding of where other teams 2025 first are gonna land.

Also I know some Jets reporters have said the bruins are one of teams that are really interested, but I just don't see a package that really gets to 13 OA level value. Like would our 2025 first + Lysell get it there? Probably not, and I don't think the bruins would even consider either Lohrei or Poitras.

 

[TOCap1]

Liljegren and a fifth from TO.

I would trade Minten and Lilly for him. But I still don’t know if that would be enough for Jets fans

 

[TheDoldrums]

I would trade Minten and Lilly for him. But I still don’t know if that would be enough for Jets fans

Think the Leafs are dead here now that the #23 is gone and they don't have a 1st next year.