Friedman: Jets and Rutger McGroarty are not talking - his name is coming up in trade talks

[57special]

Well, Jon Merrill is an NHL player.

 

[AKL]

Well, Jon Merrill is an NHL player.

No one can deny that Jon Merrill played games in the NHL last year

 

[voyageur]

The Flyers are shopping Farabee, and he's a pretty good NHL player with 4 years at $5m left on his deal.

He had a career high of 50 points this past season, which doesn't sound that high but you have to understand that the Flyers PP is dead last in the NHL and is significantly worse than the 31st best team, so all the forwards have deflated point totals.

What's the RW depth in Philly look like next year? Konecny, Tippett, Foerster, Brink, Hathaway...I assume Atkinson get moved or bought out. Would Foerster be available?

 

[pegcity]

don't think the jets would want to attach negative value and get less of a return, just buy schmidt out, don't see him waiving anyways

Fair enough.



I haven't really been looking at the draft prospects until now.

There appears to be a lot of defenseman in the 10-20 range, so I'm assuming the Jets are wanting to draft a RD there. They seem to be big as well so someone defensive minded on the right ride (as opposed to Samuelsson who is offensive).

 

[OVO16]

Whats the NHL comparable to this kid.

A young David Backes?

 

[CanMerc]

Walman is a solid top 4 D. Not a RHD though. Walman, Wallinder, 1st? Is that close or not at all?

….this Walman?

Confirmed Trade: - [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations

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[Hunter368]

Dont forget the Andrew Copp fleecing.

True, very solid return

 

[CanMerc]

Dont forget the Andrew Copp fleecing.

Wouldn’t call that a fleecing

 

[gojetsgo]

Wouldn’t call that a fleecing

20 games of a guy who wouldn't sign here for lambert salomonsson milic and barron

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

20 games of a guy who wouldn't sign here for lambert salomonsson milic and barron

Where was it said that Copp wouldn’t re-sign here? As I recall, his agent (Overhardt) dragged out the contract negotiations in his last RFA year until everyone else had re-signed and there was only ~3m of cap left. Copp likely wanted 5m long-term, so no way he was signing for more than a year. A bad season for the Jets made him a prime rental, he was flipped, and that took him right to UFA. I don’t believe for a second that Copp was unwilling to sign long term.

 

[gojetsgo]

Where was it said that Copp wouldn’t re-sign here? As I recall, his agent (Overhardt) dragged out the contract negotiations in his last RFA year until everyone else had re-signed and there was only ~3m of cap left. Copp likely wanted 5m long-term, so no way he was signing for more than a year. A bad season for the Jets made him a prime rental, he was flipped, and that took him right to UFA. I don’t believe for a second that Copp was unwilling to sign long term.

he went to arb twice with us, he might have sign if we were willing to pay more then he is worth and looking at his contract right now it's a good thing he didn't

 

[RangersFan1994]

Rangers offer Kakko and Chytil for McGroarty and Samberg

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

he went to arb twice with us, he might have sign if we were willing to pay more then he is worth and looking at his contract right now it's a good thing he didn't

Arbitration is what Overhardt does, he’s as militant of an agent as you’ll find in the NHL. Chevy is a grinder and waits for value with his FAs like he does in trades. I have no doubt that Chevy was bidding in UFA, but Detroit gave him an extra million and an extra year.

 

[gojetsgo]

Rangers offer Kakko and Chytil for McGroarty and Samberg

that is not good

Arbitration is what Overhardt does, he’s as militant of an agent as you’ll find in the NHL. Chevy is a grinder and waits for value with his FAs like he does in trades. I have no doubt that Chevy was bidding in UFA, but Detroit gave him an extra million and an extra year.

ok? either way, he wasn't going to be a winnipeg jet so 20 games for the package we got is a really good haul

 

[RedHawkDown]

….this Walman?

Confirmed Trade: - [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations

forums.hfboards.com

Clearly Yzerman and I are not on the same page

 

[kenobiwan]

Kakko and 30th overall

Nobody wants Kaka, get real

 

[Thechozen1]

Avs should really be interested.

Calum Ritchie 1 for 1?

Not getting traded to a strong division rival, most like out of division all together.

 

[Glorydays22]

If Mcgroarty is not willing to do a sign and trade I see no way that he will get a 1st plus.. No way of knowing if he will resign with his new team.

I just don't see how a player who is not signed, never played 1 game in the NHL can fetch multi 1st rounders and top spects.

 

[Hunter368]

I just don't see how a player who is not signed, never played 1 game in the NHL can fetch multi 1st rounders and top spects.

He won’t fetch that, anyone thinking that is wrong, I haven’t seen anyone seriously expecting that (some have offered similar). But by the sounds of it it’s a bit of a bidding war unfolding with significant interest from multi teams, so who knows how it ends up.

 

[Glorydays22]

He won’t fetch that, anyone thinking that is wrong, I haven’t seen anyone seriously expecting that (some have offered similar). But by the sounds of it it’s a bit of a bidding war unfolding with significant interest from multi teams, so who knows how it ends up.

I've seen offers here giving Winnipeg a 1st and a 2nd / and 1st and a Top "A" type prospect.

 

[Hunter368]

I've seen offers here giving Winnipeg a 1st and a 2nd / and 1st and a Top "A" type prospect.

You said multi 1st, that’s not multi 1st. I’ve seen offers of 4th liner or 2nd rd pick. In the end it’s going to be more then a 2nd and less then multi 1st. Time will tell, but he won’t be cheap to get especially if packaged with a Ehlers extended or agreement to extend the return could be very good.

Prospects rating is very subjective on HFB, I’ve seen many fans call their prospects A level prospects when in reality I call them C level and long shots at the NHL. I seen some prospects offered as “key high value prospects” for Laine & PLD only to be now near bust level prospects teams have no interest in. Also keep in mind this is a weaker draft so it might affect the return is a good way for the Jets. Plus by sounds of it there is significant interest in him by multi teams potentially leading to a bidding war. Demand drives value

 

[Hockeypete49]

What's the RW depth in Philly look like next year? Konecny, Tippett, Foerster, Brink, Hathaway...I assume Atkinson get moved or bought out. Would Foerster be available?

No

 

[jfhabs]

Avs should really be interested.

Calum Ritchie 1 for 1?

Why are the Avs doing that exactly? I'm sure they are perfectly happy with Ritchie.

 

[StlBill]

Bolduc and Toronto’s 2nd this year

 

[OVO16]

David Kampf is an NHL player