Post-Game Talk: Jets 7 - Avs 6, Jets lead series 1-0

[flyingkiwi]

OG Jets fan here...well, I was 10 and loved the Jets logo and Keith Tkachuk (and followed him to Phx but that's another story)...rooting for you guys in the playoffs. Keep it up and beat the crap out of those Avs

Cheers mate, sorry about the Coyotes. Will you be following them to Utah?

 

[BoJet]

Pre-slept on Sunday to watch this one. Had no issues staying awake. What a rollercoaster! Apologies to my neighbors. Notwithstanding the defensive lapses, I start to feel good about our chances. Maybe it was the sleep deprivation, but I had a sense this group has found that special sauce required for success in the playoffs. If they win games like this, they can win a whole lot more!

 

[NikoEhlers]

Crazy chaotic energy from opening night.

Jets settled the game a bit better in second and third, because first was exactly what avs wanted, helped by opening night nerves and a high energy crowd. Ill take it. Whenever the avs go down a goal, they activate too much, we can take better advantage of that creating turnovers, too easy zone entries from them tonight. Back to the drawing board.

 

[flyingkiwi]

Pre-slept on Sunday to watch this one. Had no issues staying awake. What a rollercoaster! Apologies to my neighbors. Notwithstanding the defensive lapses, I start to feel good about our chances. Maybe it was the sleep deprivation, but I had a sense this group has found that special sauce required for success in the playoffs. If they win games like this, they can win a whole lot more!

You're much stronger than I am. Planning on getting up early for games 2 and 3?

Just finished the 2nd and 3rd period replays, love how Lowry shows up with his captain's hat on. I'm feeling good about a sweep but who knows.

 

[BoJet]

You're much stronger than I am. Planning on getting up early for games 2 and 3?

Just finished the 2nd and 3rd period replays, love how Lowry shows up with his captain's hat on. I'm feeling good about a sweep but who knows.

I might catch the end of game 2 getting up early for work. Game 3 at 4 am on a Saturday?

 

[flyingkiwi]

I might catch the end of game 2 getting up early for work. Game 3 at 4 am on a Saturday?

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I'm tempted to set an alarm for 6am to catch the 3rd on Saturday.

Otherwise catch me on Sunday night.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Best series of the 1st Rd. I have a feeling the Avs come back with Annunen for next game. Georgy is terrible. Jets have the defence and goaltending. Dave Lowry is the closest thing I have seen to Butch Goring in years. What a workhorse. Jets have a dandy in him

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Bones probably pulled a Lou Brown from the movie Major League when Wille Mays Hayes makes the basket catch..."Nice game boys. Don't ever f_____n' do it again."

lol I could see Bowness saying the same and having the same look on his face as Lou

 

[PhilJets]

Helly not a superior game

still made 40 saves

Goals Against
1st - That's a nice goal top left corner one on one. Hard to save those shots
2nd - Dman crazy give away on the goal line when they can chip along the board, instead tried to pass it in the middle of the ice with 3 Avs pouncing on in.
3rd - Can't clear the zone multiple times. Though savable goal
4th - So many times Avs forward blocking Helly's line of sight. Someone needs to punish them or clear them. There is a slight interference on the goalie here.
5th - savable, bad goal. well place shot from the point
6th - again to many Avs forward bothering Helly, but that is a fluky goal bouncing off dillons shoulder and in.

Hopefully the Jets can clean up some of the mess they don't usually make this year.
They will be good.

Then again Colorado is a very good team and high powered offense. Jets can't play with fire here and play run and gun hockey.


GO JETS GO


I like 2-0 vs 1-1 going to Colarado so the Jets should be really pump for this game!!!

 

[Cnile]

I had an ambulance idling outside my house ready to rush me to emergency entire game

planet killer

 

[Cnile]

I was so pissed off at Appleton on that play. Right off the faceoff an Avs player did something to him because he was on his hands and knees for a few seconds and was clearly wounded. When he got up he looked really pissed off and in true Flinstones fashion I yelled out “don’t do it Len” when you could see him heading over to exact revenge. I f***ing knew they were going to call him on the retaliation because that is how refs roll, because he lacked discipline and didn’t take a license plate number he cost us a goal and that let the Avs right back in that game.

It was a horseshit play and if he wasn’t on the 3rd line he should have been benched. The rest of the criticism of the refs everyone can have at it but Apples f***ed up.

Ginger Snaps.
There’s a reason for the name

I've bruised my tailbone snowboarding. You're right, it's a pain in the ass (haha) and you really feel it day+1. And it takes forever to heal.

I bruised my tailbone also wow it’s a special kind of owwwwww

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Best series of the 1st Rd. I have a feeling the Avs come back with Annunen for next game. Georgy is terrible. Jets have the defence and goaltending. Dave Lowry is the closest thing I have seen to Butch Goring in years. What a workhorse. Jets have a dandy in him

Thank you, and FYI it’s Dave Lowry’s son Adam you’re thinking about.

 

[Jet]

What's a bit weird is that Samberg made a bad giveaway similar to this last year, with it being in roughly the same spot, versus Vegas that lead to a goal against. If I remember right, it was after the Jets tied it up after being down a few goals. Killing all the momentum the team had.

I like Samberg and think he's a very good defenceman but he seems to have a bit of a problem with nerves in the playoffs since this is now the second time it's happened. He really needs to get his nerves under control and stop panicking.

How many games has Samberg played in the playoffs?

Let's let him have some games to get on top of it. That's a wild environment and a lot of pressure, and he wasn't the only nervous Jet.

I'm more concerned about Hellebuyck. He has a lot more playoff games under his belt and hasn't really been vezinabuyck yet.

 

[tbcwpg]

What's a bit weird is that Samberg made a bad giveaway similar to this last year, with it being in roughly the same spot, versus Vegas that lead to a goal against. If I remember right, it was after the Jets tied it up after being down a few goals. Killing all the momentum the team had.

I like Samberg and think he's a very good defenceman but he seems to have a bit of a problem with nerves in the playoffs since this is now the second time it's happened. He really needs to get his nerves under control and stop panicking.

It was worse than killing the momentum, it led to the OT winner for Vegas in the 2nd overtime.

 

[Stumbledore]

It's been awhile since Ive seen a game as sloppy as this one but it was great fun to watch. I couldn't believe the noise in the arena and I can see why Inanna has to avoid games, I'm almost hearing impaired myself after sitting thru that. Stanley definitely needs to be PB even Schmidt would be an improvement. Lowry is just incredible and some shifts I ignored the puck and just watched him. Those Avs are far from done but I like our chances if we can jst tighten up defensively.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

IMO Stanley out for Schmidt, play Samberg/Schmidt. They have been very good together by the numbers at least.

Gotta do something about the PK or we just can't take penalties. The avs PP dominated, our penalty kill is just so bad. Reminds me of the Maurice passive PK we ran for years, don't understand why we are doing it. It's a shooting gallery and with the talent the Avs have you can't just let them have the puck in our end the entire penalty.

 

[Jet]

I'm back to posting my own post-game thoughts - just not on Twitter, doing it on BlueSky in an attempt to slowly move away from the hate-machine.

Quick thoughts as I peruse this thread: the Avs had both a lot of odd-man rushes and sustained pressure from bad breakouts or attempts at clearing the zone - and that's how they poured on a ton of shots on Hellebuyck (73CA at 5v5 alone!!!), although not many of them high-danger (until it was special teams).

The first can be cleaned up by ensuring the 3F isn't hesitating when they are supporting their pinching defence. I saw so many instances of players beginning a curlt the blueline thinking a Pionk or Morrissey or DeMelo (or whoever) was going to keep the puck in and they could get into the open-ice in the slot - only for it to not happen and for COL's speed to kill them through the neutral zone. Maybe we can attribute this a lot to nerves, as I have heavy doubts that Bowness would intend for that kind of play in his system (for players not named Scheifele or Connor, of course).

The bad breakouts and failed attempts at clearing the defensive zone are the same problem - COL's fast on their forecheck and the Jets fail at presenting options for their defencemen. The middle of the ice is wide-open, but good luck finding a Winnipeg player there ready for a one-touch reception-and-pass to get out of the zone, and instead throwing it to an Avs player instead (or attempting to clear it off the boards - which just ends up hitting an Avs player, and again giving them possession). I expect the 5-4 pairing to be better as maybe Dillon's got his goal of hitting everything that moves in this game, so that Pionk isn't his usual chaotic self. 2 needs that forward option to pass to, whereas 44 can escape pressure himself (more often than not). The 64-54 is where you need to insert Schmidt or Miller instead of Stanley - 64 had a nice little streak going but he's not looked good for three straight games including tonight, and was exposed by the Avs by forcing Samberg to make the plays instead from his off-hand.

Finally: agree with folks that Toffoli wasn't great, especially when he's taking shots like these. The 27-23-73 line is the obvious mismatch for COL's deteriorating depth - yet they didn't manage much against a trio of Wood-Colton-Kiviranta and got outshone by Mittelstadt and his line (who absolutely eviscerated the 81-55-13 line and both 44-2 and 5-4 pairings). This line is primed to be the difference maker, IMO - if everything else goes "according to plan", then it's 27-23-13 that should be scoring. Can't count on Lowry to always outscore MacKinnon, nor for Namestnikov's (and his line's) only 5v5 slapper to be a goal. (They should replace Gustafsson for Perfetti, btw.)

I dont often agree with you but you nailed it. The Jets d core overall is capable but not elite at evasion and zone exits (passing/ clearing). Jomo is our only guy who can consistently snuff out pressure alone.

The reason the Jets have so much success is F support in all three zones, be it coming back deeper for a clean 5 foot pass, supporting the puck carrier through the neutral zone or backing up the D pinching down the wall or at both blue lines.

We had a lot of guys looking for man advantage breaks, or, fearing the Avs speed Avs speed and we were too spread out.

I hope the boys realize just how lucky we were to win that game, and trust that the system is the way to win consistently against the avs.

Scoring the first goal will be key tomorrow, hopefully allowing us to settle in.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

We beat them playing their game, now lets beat them playing ours

 

[Jets 31]

Great offense in the game by the Jets, apparently we were just holding back the goal scoring for the playoffs. Lots to clean up after that game but bottom line we got the win and was that a exciting game. Now we boogie-woogie.

 

[Bladerunner62]

I'll take the win, but I imagine Bones isn't very happy with that systems play. We allowed the Avs to dictate pace and style of game almost all night and we were on our heels for most of it.

Good news is that their goalie is awful and that we can play significantly better.

The Jets gave the Aves a free pass through the neutral zone all game. With their speed they had the Jet's d on their heels. Need to clog it up and take that away from them.

 

[kylbaz]

The Jets gave the Aves a free pass through the neutral zone all game. With their speed they had the Jet's d on their heels. Need to clog it up and take that away from them.

Also noticed we were leaving the zone really early and the avs easily keeping the puck in

 

[jokesondee]

Jets won 55.2% of FO. What do you want?

MORE! Seriously though, it seemed like every "important" faceoff was won by the Avs. Important being in our zone.

 

[Channelcat]

IMO Stanley out for Schmidt, play Samberg/Schmidt. They have been very good together by the numbers at least.

Gotta do something about the PK or we just can't take penalties. The avs PP dominated, our penalty kill is just so bad. Reminds me of the Maurice passive PK we ran for years, don't understand why we are doing it. It's a shooting gallery and with the talent the Avs have you can't just let them have the puck in our end the entire penalty.

I'd be a little concerned about putting Schmidt in for Stanley. Stan is in because Schmidt looked awful the last 3 weeks of the season. Last night was tough on all d with crazy for check pressure. Demelo might have been the worst and we aren't talking about pulling him.

 

[bustamente]

If Stanley stays in the lineup it looks like Slammy will have to play on his off side and he seems to have some problems at various points of the game.

 

[LadyJet26]

First game in years and that was your takeaway? Watch closer.

Not my only takeaway. I was replying quickly.

Jets were sloppy but so were the Avs. Pionk was awful. Samberg f***ed up. Helly wasn't great. Given what I've read about the team that's not usually how they play.