Post-Game Talk: Jets 6 - Nucks 1

[Ponds]

Dunno who Jefferoni is, but he created a monster

 

[Jets 31]

I'm with you. The Arniel hiring was straight out of the True North handbook. I wasn't inspired by it, but I was willing to give him a chance. Immediately, I was watching what he'd do with personnel, specifically Brad Lauer. If Arniel had brought him back it would have honked of Huddy 2.0

Bones was what the team desperately needed to reset the culture. Even if he'd wanted to stay, I don't think it would have been the right fit long term. In this case, SA already being involved with the organization has paid dividends. Instead of blowing it all up, he's built and improved upon the groundwork RB laid.

The league leading powerplay is evidence of that.

He'll never get everything right, but he's done a swell job so far. He doesn't seem tethered to his ways either, which I like in a coach. If he's behind the bench when the Jets hoist a Cup, it'd be one heck of a redemption arc.


Now to voice a bit of displeasure with True North.

They will never relinquish their branding. An ode to their organization is literally part of the crest. It's one of the issues I have with their ownership. Whether they choose to accept it or not, no matter how much work they did to bring NHL hockey back to Winnipeg, the Jets belong to Winnipegers.

The Jets live and die on the backs of it's blue collar citizens. They are the true lifeblood of the club.

With TN, it's authentication this, ties to Winnipeg that, but they don't respect the fanbase enough to fly the crest and colour's most desire. One could make the argument the old crests and colour's were tied to failure. That a new look redefines this incarnation of the Jets. Yet, is it what most Winnipegers identify with when they think of the Jets? I'd be curious to know for certain.

Personally, I think the 90s crest is what our team should be wearing.

From a spiritual standpoint, the Jets that were stripped from me as a child were wearing that crest. The way I see it, winning a Cup in those uniforms would undo a cosmic wrong. From a design standpoint, they took the 70's crest and perfected it. It's timeless.

However, the 70's crest is linked with success in the WHA, so I understand if people view it as our true identity.

All that said, if Adam Lowry is being passed the Stanley Cup from Overlord Gary, he could be adorned with a Safeway bag for all I care.

It might also have to do with money, if we went full time to the Heritage classic jersey i don't think the current regular jersey would sell very much. Now we all buy both jerseys . Money talks....

 

[DRW204]

Powerplay powerplay powerplay.

We changed the coach and added Ehlers and “presto” we are leading the league with a 32.3% conversion rate (insane).

PK is 15th in the league at a 79.2% kill rate which should be a touch better with the best goalie in the league but if you add up the two the numbers (PK + PP) comes to 111.5 which is outstanding. Hitch use to always say you wanted to be over 102 and you’re in a good spot.

As a team we have a shooting % of 12.2 which is second highest in the league with only Washington ahead of us. That was largely leveraged off our early season start where everything we shot went in. Normally we would be about 10%.

Interesting enough Connor is only mildly higher than his normal shooting % so his scoring pace seems sustainable. Schiefele is currently shooting at a torrid and unsustainable 25.5% rate but I will stay his career rate of 17.2% is exceptional, so three cheers for that line.

the PP has been huge, but they still rate really well in 5v5 GF (5th in totals, 10th in per 60 as differing GP)

 

[Buffdog]

Here's the problem with those shooting % stats ... correct me if I'm wrong only the shots on goal that the goalie saves are counted along with the goals right?
So If Scheifele goes for the top right corner 5 times ... he misses 3 times and hits the post the 4th time but the 5th time he finally scores. His shooting percentage would be 100% even though he tried 5 times to hit that top right corner ... 1 for 5 is 20%.
Honestly I think majority of today's new stats they keep track of are meaningless.

I *think* that a shot (as used for sh% calculations) has to be on net

Shot attempts (which include the ones that miss the net) are different

I heard from someone at the game that the fans were chanting "don't play Stanley" last night at one point at the end of game. Is that true?

If so, that's horseshit

 

[surixon]

Excellent game. The team is really clicking the past few games.

I quite like the balance of all our lines now. They now can all play the style of game the team wants to play.

Fly brings speed and skill to the Lowry line

Nino brings size, a nose for the net and forecheck to Cole's line. Cole plays better in a cycle and puck possesion type offensive game which is what we are now seeing with him, Nino, and Kupari who are cycling the the hell out of the opposition. Kupari so far isn't looking out of place with the other two. This is a good opportunity for him to win a bigger role.

Top line is on fire, nothing more to say.

Heinola looked pretty good today. I liked the poise and offensive confidence. Stanley was hit and miss.

All other dmen with real strong nights.

Helle with a pretty easy game

 

[ps241]

the PP has been huge, but they still rate really well in 5v5 GF (5th in totals, 10th in per 60 as differing GP)

Feels like the GF's are being leveraged a bit by about 20% higher than normal shooting accuracy. I am still expecting us to regress on that number a bit. That being said our top guys are very accurate shooters in general, we have been a pretty good "finishing" team for a while now.

 

[surixon]

Feels like the GF's are being leveraged a bit by about 20% higher than normal shooting accuracy. I am still expecting us to regress on that number a bit. That being said our top guys are very accurate shooters in general, we have been a pretty good "finishing" team for a while now.

Our top line will definitely cool down at some point. But I think some of our middle 6 guys can pick up that slack. Plus we have a pretty big cushion in the standings and it's hard ro make up points. Even with Colorado's hot stretch they only made up one point on us the last 11 or so games.

 

[voyageur]

Excellent game. The team is really clicking the past few games.

I quite like the balance of all our lines now. They now can all play the style of game the team wants to play.

Fly brings speed and skill to the Lowry line

Nino brings size, a nose for the net and forecheck to Cole's line. Cole plays better in a cycle and puck possesion type offensive game which is what we are now seeing with him, Nino, and Kupari who are cycling the the hell out of the opposition. Kupari so far isn't looking out of place with the other two. This is a good opportunity for him to win a bigger role.

Top line is on fire, nothing more to say.

Heinola looked pretty good today. I liked the poise and offensive confidence. Stanley was hit and miss.

All other dmen with real strong nights.

Helle with a pretty easy game

I think there is something different that comes out of Ehlers playing with Lowry. Against Colorado the Jets were able to match his speed against Makar's. And that had an effect. Scored the 1st goal.

Last night the Jets first good chance came from Ehlers, on the breakaway, and I think it's something you may see more now, with Lowry and Iafallo being good defenders, is that Ehlers is able to stretch the ice a little.

Also Lowry is underrated as a skater. That was impressive the way he separated from Hughes on the PK.

 

[surixon]

I think there is something different that comes out of Ehlers playing with Lowry. Against Colorado the Jets were able to match his speed against Makar's. And that had an effect. Scored the 1st goal.

Last night the Jets first good chance came from Ehlers, on the breakaway, and I think it's something you may see more now, with Lowry and Iafallo being good defenders, is that Ehlers is able to stretch the ice a little.

Also Lowry is underrated as a skater. That was impressive the way he separated from Hughes on the PK.

Lowry and Iafallo are big guys that don't need the puck on their stick much. It allows Fly to posses it as much as he wants and their size creates space for him to exploit.

Same as how Nino's size creates space for Cole to exploit.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Lowry and Iafallo are big guys that don't need the puck on their stick much. It allows Fly to posses it as much as he wants and their size creates space for him to exploit.

Same as how Nino's size creates space for Cole to exploit.

Yep ehlers is best when he can have puck. Thats why he doesn’t work with all superstars.

 

[bustamente]

I would be in favour of trying to re sign Iafallo and letting Apples and Vladdy go they are both replaceable by prospects, he may not score much but he does everything else really well.

 

[surixon]

Yep ehlers is best when he can have puck. Thats why he doesn’t work with all superstars.

Yup. It's one of the reasons why the second line with Cole and Name never really clicked. All three are puck possession players and there is only one puck. Too much in the way of like skills and not enough skill differentiation. It was our one unbalanced line.

Cole also benefits from seeing a lot more of the puck on his new line. He is better when he gets more puck touches and when he can control most of the pace of his line.

 

[tarozi]

I heard from someone at the game that the fans were chanting "don't play Stanley" last night at one point at the end of game. Is that true?

I sat in section 315, 2 seats away from the guy that had too many beers and started the chant. His wife was completely embarrased but it was funny as shit. 3 guys with Hughes jerseys turned around and started complaining how bad Meyers was for them. It was the the cherry on the cake

 

[Gm0ney]

I sat in section 315, 2 seats away from the guy that had too many beers and started the chant. His wife was completely embarrased but it was funny as shit. 3 guys with Hughes jerseys turned around and started complaining how bad Meyers was for them. It was the the cherry on the cake

I was up in 318 on Friday and there were a couple of guys complaining about Stanley all night. They weren't yelling at him though...

 

[Guardian17]

 

[Hank Chinaski]

I guess he may have brought a couple of hats?

Or *plot twist* he was sitting 20 rows up in the lower bowl and not on the glass?

People move down to ice level all the time for the three star selection and postgame.

 

[tarozi]

I was up in 318 on Friday and there were a couple of guys complaining about Stanley all night. They weren't yelling at him though...

Honestly when that happens it makes me want to see Stanley go beast mode as a big FU to the naysayers, but he was legitimately that bad in the third so I just soaked it all in and had fun with it.

Stan's time here is coming to the end with these fans.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

I *think* that a shot (as used for sh% calculations) has to be on net

Shot attempts (which include the ones that miss the net) are different


If so, that's horseshit

true though

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

I think there is something different that comes out of Ehlers playing with Lowry. Against Colorado the Jets were able to match his speed against Makar's. And that had an effect. Scored the 1st goal.

Last night the Jets first good chance came from Ehlers, on the breakaway, and I think it's something you may see more now, with Lowry and Iafallo being good defenders, is that Ehlers is able to stretch the ice a little.

Also Lowry is underrated as a skater. That was impressive the way he separated from Hughes on the PK.

Ehlers playing with Namestnikov and Perfetti is decidedly inferior to Connor playing with Scheifele and Vilardi. Names and Fetts are bottom 6 players at this stage.
Remarkable that Ehlers has over a point per game with those two.
Lowry and Iafallo a slight improvement.
Put Ehlers with a star player or two and he'd be amongst the league leaders in points.
I do like the current line with Lows and Al. A good balance of everything.

 

[voyageur]

Ehlers playing with Namestnikov and Perfetti is decidedly inferior to Connor playing with Scheifele and Vilardi. Names and Fetts are bottom 6 players at this stage.
Remarkable that Ehlers has over a point per game with those two.
Lowry and Iafallo a slight improvement.
Put Ehlers with a star player or two and he'd be amongst the league leaders in points.
I do like the current line with Lows and Al. A good balance of everything.

Yes Perfetti is in no way like Laine. But with that star power Ehlers was on the 2nd PP. Namestnikov isn't Stastny or Little, but I feel like reaslistically and stastically Adam Lowry matches up well as a 2C. Ideally I think the Jets the way Arniel coaches would like to have 2 more physical players wtih a free range player. 4th line among the best skaters to keep the pace up.

 

[ps241]

You can choose Light or Dark mode in your account Preferences - and it works!

Big thanks on the heads up. I am back to the dark mode which is easier on my eyes.

Our top line will definitely cool down at some point. But I think some of our middle 6 guys can pick up that slack. Plus we have a pretty big cushion in the standings and it's hard ro make up points. Even with Colorado's hot stretch they only made up one point on us the last 11 or so games.

As long as we have Helle playing like this then we will be more than fine. I don’t expect us to fall of a cliff as far as shooting %. I have been enjoying this season allot despite my crazy schedule that is getting in the way of viewings.

 

[Shlep]

Here's the problem with those shooting % stats ... correct me if I'm wrong only the shots on goal that the goalie saves are counted along with the goals right?
So If Scheifele goes for the top right corner 5 times ... he misses 3 times and hits the post the 4th time but the 5th time he finally scores. His shooting percentage would be 100% even though he tried 5 times to hit that top right corner ... 1 for 5 is 20%.
Honestly I think majority of today's new stats they keep track of are meaningless.

Fans of players with high shooting percentages make this same argument every time, and the players fail to maintain the high shooting percentages. Every. Single. Time.