Post-Game Talk: Jets 2 - Wild 1 in OT

[Buffdog]

And 2 of the 3 games were against a lottery team and a team on the 2nd of a back to back missing their 1C and 1D. Good to get the wins and bank those points for sure but there are clear obvious issues, some of them the same issues as from last season which sank us in the playoffs.

I too love it when the 2 highest paid players on my fav team are outshot and outscored in the one situation where they play 80% of their minutes in. Esp when there is a simple proven fix which might bring both those lines to respectability at 5v5 while keeping the gravy train rolling at 3 on 3, PP and other situations. Last season the Jets had 3 6 on 5 goals, and 7 the season before, they already have 2 this season... there is hard cap to how much the Jets can win games in the manner they won these two.

In the end they are gonna live or die by their 5 on 5 play and the sooner that can be brought to respectability the better. They certainly should not be waiting until losses to try to make the changes, esp since the stuff that isn't working is so conveniently isolated that changes can be made without affecting things that are working.

Schief and Connor want to play together so they will. Get over it or find a new favorite team where the coach deploys his lines to your own personal satisfaction

This is a team that finished 4th overall and is 3-0 to start the season. They have found a formula to win that isn't limited to your narrow definition. How much more success do you need to see in terms of wins and points (which I'm sure you agree are the most important stats - even moreso than xGF % *gasp*) before you just shut up about this?

If we finished 23rd in the league and we were 0-3 to start the season than maybe people would take your tilting at windmills more seriously

 

[ThinIce61]

Until we lose I doubt there will be much change to the lineup other than Bug Eyes getting a game at some point.

There is no scenario where Ehlers & Barron swap spots Ehlers is put on a line that even smells of a 4th line. Not in a contract year if the Jets have any intention of trying to resign him. Things will stay as they are in the short term.

At some point Coghlan will be waived. No brainer.

I don't think any of Fleury, Heinola or Stanley are waived or traded. We will run 8 D until something shakes out. We were relatively injury free on D last season. The odds that happens again are slim.

Gus is the extra F for the time being until we inevitably get hit with an injury and then Lambert/Chibrikov are the likely callups and we use IR so as not to potentially lose anyone to waivers.

Maybe Kupari and Names switch spots and/or Perfetti/Iafallo but Ehlers will always be a part of the perceived 2nd line.

We will lose at some point, then we'll see how that impacts the lineup choices. I'm hopeful that Arniel is a little more "players need to earn their spot in the lineup" than Bowness was who was more of a "loyalty over logic" guy when deciding on a lineup.

Go Jets Go.

 

[voyageur]

Until we lose I doubt there will be much change to the lineup other than Bug Eyes getting a game at some point.

There is no scenario where Ehlers & Barron swap spots Ehlers is put on a line that even smells of a 4th line. Not in a contract year if the Jets have any intention of trying to resign him. Things will stay as they are in the short term.

At some point Coghlan will be waived. No brainer.

I don't think any of Fleury, Heinola or Stanley are waived or traded. We will run 8 D until something shakes out. We were relatively injury free on D last season. The odds that happens again are slim.

Gus is the extra F for the time being until we inevitably get hit with an injury and then Lambert/Chibrikov are the likely callups and we use IR so as not to potentially lose anyone to waivers.

Maybe Kupari and Names switch spots and/or Perfetti/Iafallo but Ehlers will always be a part of the perceived 2nd line.

We will lose at some point, then we'll see how that impacts the lineup choices. I'm hopeful that Arniel is a little more "players need to earn their spot in the lineup" than Bowness was who was more of a "loyalty over logic" guy when deciding on a lineup.

Go Jets Go.

I don't see how Arniel suddenly pivots to Kupari as the 2C when he identified him as a bottom six forward. I've seen a little bit of chemistry between Namestnikov and Ehlers early in the season, quick passes between them, but nothing like the preseason chemistry.

That's where I wonder how Arniel deals with Perfetti's slump. Do you let him play out of it? Do you switch him in the lineup, maybe with Vilardi? Do you bring Lambert in? I think this might be the only season that Brad Lambert gets to play on the same team as Ehlers, and there is a big difference between Ehlers, and Toninato/AJF, in the development of a player. Iafallo moved up the lineup first last year, will it be the same this year? Game has been pretty consistent and productive in terms of zone possession times, at least to my eyes.

 

[Jets 31]

And 2 of the 3 games were against a lottery team and a team on the 2nd of a back to back missing their 1C and 1D. Good to get the wins and bank those points for sure but there are clear obvious issues, some of them the same issues as from last season which sank us in the playoffs.

I too love it when the 2 highest paid players on my fav team are outshot and outscored in the one situation where they play 80% of their minutes in. Esp when there is a simple proven fix which might bring both those lines to respectability at 5v5 while keeping the gravy train rolling at 3 on 3, PP and other situations. Last season the Jets had 3 6 on 5 goals, and 7 the season before, they already have 2 this season... there is hard cap to how much the Jets can win games in the manner they won these two.

In the end they are gonna live or die by their 5 on 5 play and the sooner that can be brought to respectability the better. They certainly should not be waiting until losses to try to make the changes, esp since the stuff that isn't working is so conveniently isolated that changes can be made without affecting things that are working.

If we were 3-0 but getting outplayed big time then i could see making changes but that's not the case, we haven't been outplayed in one of the 3 games so far. So Arniel walks in to the dressing room and says i know we are 3-0 boys but i don't like the underlying numbers so i'm switching up the lines and then we lose a couple of games, don't think that would go over very well.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Too early to speculate what we are or how we will perform.
We should revisit the situation after 20 games.
There are several teams now that look bad now:
Oilers, Avs and Predators , that likely won’t be bad by years end ( Maybe Preds ? )
We will likely be ok , would not expect last year’s points. ( Hope so , but doubt it )