Value of: Jesper Bratt

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

9.75 still sounds crazy. That’s Gaudreau money and Bratt still hasn’t had a full season over ppg. Show me an 85 pt plus season this season first.

Like I said, that would have been my walk away point. But I would have gone up to 9.5 in the unlikely scenario where 7-8 didn't get it done.

 

[ponder]

8 years, $9.<something> mil seems totally reasonable for Bratt. He’s a very, very good player. There are 35 players at $9+ mil AAV, and that number is rising rapidly, $9 mil isn’t what it used to be.

If the Devils got Bratt for significantly under $9 mil, with 7-8 year term, that’d be somewhat of a steal. I’m sure lower salaries would be on the table if the Devils cave on term, but that’s probably a bad idea.

Agreed that if they could have signed Bratt for 7-8 years, $7-8 mil AAV last offseason, and didn’t, that was a major mistake. Who knows if that was possible though.

 

[TommyDangles]

I thought he'd get similar to the Tage contract at around 7 years 7Mish in the summer this year.

If he continues his great play this year, I'd guess around 7-8 years for 8.5M-9M.

I still think he ends up getting moved in the summer.

 

[glenwo2]

I thought he'd get similar to the Tage contract at around 7 years 7Mish in the summer this year.

If he continues his great play this year, I'd guess around 7-8 years for 8.5M-9M.

I still think he ends up getting moved in the summer.

If he gets moved, then Fitzgerald (GM) can leave with him 'cause that would be an absolute failure of epic proportions of not re-signing him.

But I think he will re-sign as I believe the main reason he wasn't re-signed to a long-term deal was because we had too many players eating up the cap space necessary for a long-term big money deal Bratt is looking for.

Miles Wood and Andreas Johnsson's contracts come off the books after this year and combine that with the rumored 4-million-dollar NHL Cap increase, it would be much easier for a contract to be done that is palatable to both GM and Bratt himself.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I thought he'd get similar to the Tage contract at around 7 years 7Mish in the summer this year.

If he continues his great play this year, I'd guess around 7-8 years for 8.5M-9M.

I still think he ends up getting moved in the summer.

The Devils have tons of money freeing up and not many holes to fill. Seems like a perfect time to get a big deal done.

 

[Classic Devil]

If he gets moved, then Fitzgerald (GM) can leave with him 'cause that would be an absolute failure of epic proportions of not re-signing him.

But I think he will re-sign as I believe the main reason he wasn't re-signed to a long-term deal was because we had too many players eating up the cap space necessary for a long-term big money deal Bratt is looking for.

Miles Wood and Andreas Johnsson's contracts come off the books after this year and combine that with the rumored 4-million-dollar NHL Cap increase, it would be much easier for a contract to be done that is palatable to both GM and Bratt himself.

And Tatar, and Severson, and we're not clamoring for UFAs to replace them. We have plenty of cap space for Bratt.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

If he gets moved, then Fitzgerald (GM) can leave with him 'cause that would be an absolute failure of epic proportions of not re-signing him.

But I think he will re-sign as I believe the main reason he wasn't re-signed to a long-term deal was because we had too many players eating up the cap space necessary for a long-term big money deal Bratt is looking for.

Miles Wood and Andreas Johnsson's contracts come off the books after this year and combine that with the rumored 4-million-dollar NHL Cap increase, it would be much easier for a contract to be done that is palatable to both GM and Bratt himself.

Don't forget Tatar, Severson, and Graves contracts coming off too.

 

[Zippy316]

The Devils have tons of money freeing up and not many holes to fill. Seems like a perfect time to get a big deal done.

To add to this, you have Severson and Tatar coming off the books. Most likely replaced internally by L. Hughes or Nemec and Holtz or Zetterlund respectively. Same goes for Graves with Bahl and Okhoituk waiting in the wings.

There is plenty of money to commit to Bratt while our prospects are on their ELCs. Once those expire, it may get rough but the cap space should start going upwards quickly soon.

 

[TommyDangles]

The Devils have tons of money freeing up and not many holes to fill. Seems like a perfect time to get a big deal done.

I don't think cap space is the issue. They had enough to sign him this summer. I just think there is a disagreement between Fitz & Bratt's party on how much he's worth.

 

[glenwo2]

I don't think cap space is the issue. They had enough to sign him this summer. I just think there is a disagreement between Fitz & Bratt's party on how much he's worth.

The Cap going up combined with contracts going off the books, will help that disagreement turn into agreement real fast.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I don't think cap space is the issue. They had enough to sign him this summer. I just think there is a disagreement between Fitz & Bratt's party on how much he's worth.

Things got pretty tight quickly after signing Palat and choosing to bring Wood back. I would’ve rather gotten the long term deal done over resigning Wood if that was the choice. But it would’ve been quite difficult to fit 8+ million on this team without moving some guys.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

My question is what happens if NJ signs Gaudreau, is Bratt the odd man out? All indications are they prioritized adding Palat (who's skill set was more sorely needed) than Gaudreau. Wouldn't be surprised if they found Gaudreau/Bratt redundant and that trading rather than extending Bratt would be the next move.

Not sure but based on how he's playing so far this year that would have been an absolutely disastrous mistake.

 

[Classic Devil]

My question is what happens if NJ signs Gaudreau, is Bratt the odd man out? All indications are they prioritized adding Palat (who's skill set was more sorely needed) than Gaudreau. Wouldn't be surprised if they found Gaudreau/Bratt redundant and that trading rather than extending Bratt would be the next move.

Not sure but based on how he's playing so far this year that would have been an absolutely disastrous mistake.

I think the answer is yes. I don't see how we could afford Bratt and Gaudreau both longterm.

 

[njdevil26]

If Bratt keeps up his play, I predict he's going to get an extension in January. 8 years at 8.5-9.5 per.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Bratt putting up nice numbers considering Ruff hates playing him LOL

His contract is going to be a nice one for him, looks like gambling on himself is going to pay off.

 

[Guffman]

Maybe I wasn't as crazy as you guys thought?

We should have offered 8x7+ and then kept adding until he said yes. What a mistake.

Hey, the Sabres gave a 2nd round pick with 54 NHL games over 2 years a 7-year extension. Teams be crazy.

Now that the salary cap is potentially increasing next offseason by up to 4M, yeah… new contract AAV’s will surely go up.

You saying 8 x 7+ is quite a bit different than the $10M you were throwing around before he signed his one year deal. Try to be consistent, hmm?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Hey, the Sabres gave a 2nd round pick with 54 NHL games over 2 years a 7-year extension. Teams be crazy.

Now that the salary cap is potentially increasing next offseason by up to 4M, yeah… new contract AAV’s will surely go up.

You saying 8 x 7+ is quite a bit different than the $10M you were throwing around before he signed his one year deal. Try to be consistent, hmm?

Where did I say I wanted to offer him $10M? I literally said I would hope for 6-7.5M, how is saying 8x7 inconsistent??

Here it is again, because apparently you need a reminder of what I said:

My walkaway point would be $9.75M AAV on a 8 year deal.

Hopefully we can get him for 6-7.5M but he's worth a ton. Just look at what Tkachuk got - and Bratt is better.

 

[seafoam]

If Bratt keeps up his play, I predict he's going to get an extension in January. 8 years at 8.5-9.5 per.

With his play + rising cap absolutely.

 

[njdevil26]

With his play + rising cap absolutely.

I don't think the contract negotiations were as contentious as people think... the agent is apparently tough to deal with but Bratt wanted to bet on himself and so far it's paying off. The talk about not having him signed into the summer and having to trade him is silly. He's not going anywhere and if he keeps this up, he's earning himself 1-2 mil per year on top of what was apparently offered to him last summer.

 

[Smitty426]

If he gets moved, then Fitzgerald (GM) can leave with him 'cause that would be an absolute failure of epic proportions of not re-signing him.

But I think he will re-sign as I believe the main reason he wasn't re-signed to a long-term deal was because we had too many players eating up the cap space necessary for a long-term big money deal Bratt is looking for.

Miles Wood and Andreas Johnsson's contracts come off the books after this year and combine that with the rumored 4-million-dollar NHL Cap increase, it would be much easier for a contract to be done that is palatable to both GM and Bratt himself.

Along with those, Severson, Tatar, Haula, Graves and Bernier all UFAs, Blackwood & Mcleod (RFA), can all come off. They wont all, but can. Thats about $23M.
Bratt with a good extension, Bahl gets a bit, so does Zetturland, Walsh maybe. Then L Hughes

 

[ChicksDigTheTrap]

I thought he'd get similar to the Tage contract at around 7 years 7Mish in the summer this year.

If he continues his great play this year, I'd guess around 7-8 years for 8.5M-9M.

I still think he ends up getting moved in the summe

Bratt putting up nice numbers considering Ruff hates playing him LOL

His contract is going to be a nice one for him, looks like gambling on himself is going to pay off.

Hugh? Bratt went to bat in the press for Ruff after last season, He has said noting but positive things about Ruff

 

[NJDevilsFan21]

Today he's probably worth $8Mx7. If the Devils want a steal, they need to be trying to lock him up, right now, for $7.5Mx8. And this is only because it's still a small sample size to start the season.

Assuming he plays a full season, he's going to worth about whatever number of points he reaches divided by 10. With maybe a ceiling of around $9.5M (assuming he surpasses 95pts). So the longer the Devils wait, the more expensive he becomes.

Tkachuk is my benchmark. He's the same age, more proven, more physical (and thus offers more to his game), and is locked up for $9.5M. Unless Bratt his 110pts this season, anything above this and he's too expensive.

I think Bratt will end up somewhere around $8.5M.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Hugh? Bratt went to bat in the press for Ruff after last season, He has said noting but positive things about Ruff

It's just a joke about how Ruff doesn't give him a lot of ice time, like last night he had 2 goals and an assist but was one of the lowest if not the lowest ice time for forwards.

 

[Guffman]

Where did I say I wanted to offer him $10M? I literally said I would hope for 6-7.5M, how is saying 8x7 inconsistent??

Here it is again, because apparently you need a reminder of what I said:

Value of: - Jesper Bratt

It appears he's likely headed to arbitration tomorrow and my gut tells me he either wants to hit UFA as soon as possible or at the very least he's not interested in being a Devil long term. I'd be very open to moving him for an adequate replacement in the top 6 What is his value?

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Seems that you were willing to pay almost $10 M AAV, which is what a few of us were critiquing. No reason to drag me back into this thread TBH despite his fast start.

 

[TBF1972]

To add to this, you have Severson and Tatar coming off the books. Most likely replaced internally by L. Hughes or Nemec and Holtz or Zetterlund respectively. Same goes for Graves with Bahl and Okhoituk waiting in the wings.

There is plenty of money to commit to Bratt while our prospects are on their ELCs. Once those expire, it may get rough but the cap space should start going upwards quickly soon.

no money for bratt. you all seem to forget the big johnsson, bernier and blackwood extensions, which will use all our cap space.