Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[Caper Bruins fan]

Did i miss neely on felger?

I am listening now and they are talking football.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

i'm only 26 pages in but a lot of people in this thread talking about trade returns

i gotta say, as a fan of another team, this guy has major negative value. i wouldn't trade a cap dump for him. swayman is on record saying he wants to set the market, the biggest scumbag agent in the game, and you want me to give up positive assets just to watch them drag my front office through mud? no thank you

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Not really. It's their own pick this year (which any projection would be later in the round). He was asked about trading their #10 this year for a goalie and scoffed at it.

Ah ok agreed. The previous regime did it for Schneider. I would give pick 8-10 for Swayman if I needed a long term goalie though.

 

[Over the volcano]

How would you feel if I told you a certain other Bruins goalie who signed an 8 yr deal starting their age 26 season had a career high games played of 45 (39 starts), and 1 more career start (126 vs 125) and the cap hit % they signed for would be $9.6M with this year's salary cap?

Was that after his playoff run of 22 games 1.88GA and .940 save%?

And didn't every bad thing that happened to the team turn into his fault afterwards?

 

[Hookslide]

Swayman VIII thread coming up.
Has to be a record

Do you think maybe it is a hot topic........haha

 

[SwayHeyKid]

i'm only 26 pages in but a lot of people in this thread talking about trade returns

i gotta say, as a fan of another team, this guy has major negative value. i wouldn't trade a cap dump for him. swayman is on record saying he wants to set the market, the biggest scumbag agent in the game, and you want me to give up positive assets just to watch them drag my front office through mud? no thank you

Yzerman would walk to Boston and fireman’s carry Swayman back to Detroit if available

 

[Son of Donegal]

i'm only 26 pages in but a lot of people in this thread talking about trade returns

i gotta say, as a fan of another team, this guy has major negative value. i wouldn't trade a cap dump for him. swayman is on record saying he wants to set the market, the biggest scumbag agent in the game, and you want me to give up positive assets just to watch them drag my front office through mud? no thank you

Assuming an 8 year deal gets done, it's just short term pain for long term gain as he looks like a top 5 goalie and all-star.

Unless you prefer "more compliant" goaltenders like these guys.

 

[Hookslide]

They’d probably get in if my mother was the goalie.

Edit: all love and respect to Mama TD lol

But is true she was a top draft pick but had you instead of pursuing her dream.

 

[smithformeragent]

Did i miss neely on felger?

Sounds like they’ll discuss Swayman after the football segment with Bedard.

 

[lopey]

Yzerman would walk to Boston and fireman’s carry Swayman back to Detroit if available

You are really overvaluing Sway. No one going to pay him his asking price AND give up assets as well

 

[Sheppy]

I was deadly in net for our ball hockey team. Hit me up, Sweeney. I'll take $1M on a prove-it deal.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Yzerman would walk to Boston and fireman’s carry Swayman back to Detroit if available

 

[SwayHeyKid]

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The Detroit goalie situation has been terrible for what a decade?

 

[lopey]

I was deadly in net for our ball hockey team. Hit me up, Sweeney. I'll take $1M on a prove-it deal.

Shep can you skate

 

[SwayHeyKid]

You are really overvaluing Sway. No one going to pay him his asking price AND give up assets as well

What is he asking for?

Amazing these seven threads on Sway have gotten to the point where people honestly have convinced themselves he has no value now. Utterly stupendous.

 

[Boston BROin]

Watch him wait until the first week of the season to make a decision. Korpisalo shits the bed? Not signing anything under $9. Korpisalo plays lights out? 'QUICK, get me a pen to sign at $8!'

 

[mjd1001]

For me, its not even the consistency. Its just the fact that the incremental salary you pay for a top 5 guy isn't worth the incremental results you get.

Take last year. Swayman and Ullmark had almost identical numbers. Both very good, top 10 years. One's making $5mil, the other.......lets assume $8mil this year. Even IF you assume Swayman has a year similar to Hellebuyck did last year (not counting the shitty performance in the playoffs), is that worth an additional $3mil? What about if Swayman has a similar year this year as he did last? Is that better than having Ullmark +$3mil in cap space? That could have gotten you a player like Jeff Skinner or Adam Henrique (or whomever...)

With Skinner specifically, i wouldn't want him at all, even at a very low cost.

He's entering the decline in terms of offensive production. He plays zero defense, and when I say that I really mean it. I saw more than one Buffalo game where the puck went into the Sabres own zone and he came back late, then literally stopped at the blue line and just stood there. Didn't help out deep, didn't even take a high zone to cover, just straddled the blue line.

The Sabres are trying to compete this year and are taking a cap hit to to buy him out. Lindy Ruff came back in and basically must have said..yeah, I'd rather pay him not to play.

Brindamour took over in carolina and within a year wanted a young Jeff Skinner out of there. In Buffalo, Ralph Krueger was making him a healthy scratch, Ruff wanted no part of him. He MIGHT have a decently productive scoring year playing with McDavid and Draisatl in Edmonton simply as a function of having SOME offensive talent and playing with them, but at this point in his career he is NOT a player that helps a team like Boston, or most other teams, win in the regular season or playoffs.

 

[lopey]

What is he asking for?

Amazing these seven threads on Sway have gotten to the point where people honestly have convinced themselves he has no value now. Utterly stupendous.

He has overpriced himself. 62.5 mill or 64 million is max he going to get

 

[TD Charlie]

Watch him wait until the first week of the season to make a decision. Korpisalo shits the bed? Not signing anything under $9. Korpisalo plays lights out? 'QUICK, get me a pen to sign at $8!'

Offer subject to change

Hate to be a jerk about it, but this is a very delicate situation and circumstances are a changin’

Just like if Korpisalo is horrendous, I expect Swayman/Gross to sit back and let the offer increase bit by bit.

 

[UncleRico]

So do we have an update when Neely is going to be on 98.5 so I don’t have to listen to this?

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

So do we have an update when Neely is going to be on 98.5 so I don’t have to listen to this?

You know there are two dials on the radio. One turns it off and the other changes the station.

 

[Over the volcano]

Offer subject to change

Hate to be a jerk about it, but this is a very delicate situation and circumstances are a changin’

Just like if Korpisalo is horrendous, I expect Swayman/Gross to sit back and let the offer increase bit by bit.

I'm sure that would sit well with his teammates.

 

[UncleRico]

You know there are two dials on the radio. One turns it off and the other changes the station.

I know how radios work.

I’m listening because Neely is suppose to speak. I’m asking if anyone knows when Neely is on.

Do you know when Neely is on or not?

 

[TD Charlie]

I'm sure that would sit well with his teammates.

They shouldn’t know either way. It’s between Swayman/Gross, and the Bruins front office

 

[yazmybaby]

Source: Bruins’ actual offer to Jeremy Swayman was eight years at $7.8 million AAV

Bruins president Cam Neely hinted that the team offered Swayman an $8 million AAV contract.

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