Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -VI President Cam Speaks: Monty, Donny, & Charlie too!

[Gee Wally]

Mod edit: @smithformeragent

As this situation continues to drag on:

Please keep the conversation pertinent to the topic and avoid making it personal.

Debate about the management of the salary cap and the performance of the general manager fits into the context of the conversation, but we’ll avoid dividing fans into camps like “pro-player” and “team apologist”.

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[SwayHeyKid]

Now look who is taking swipes at another player! Hypocrite!

I’m not insulting his character he’s prob a great guy he’s just not good lol. I’m not making it up.

They paid Pasta and McAvoy big dollars, so I don't think it's an issue of spending. It really does make you wonder what the hell *is* going on here, though.

Sounds like a GM agent cat fight with the player paying the price

 

[Dr Hook]

Zadorov will not be a 3rd pair D. Did you watch him in the PO? He was more
impactful than any Boston LD man in the PO. Lohre will get 3rd pair reps and some PP time.

Agreed. He is a middle-pairing guy and Boston will use him like one if he isn't a disaster (and no reason to think he will be). The plan as we know it right now is for him to play with McAvoy, with Lindholm and Carlo the shut-down pair then Lohrei and whoever, probably Peeke. I feel confident Zado will play up to his contract.

Sounds like a GM agent cat fight with the player paying the price

Could well be. If that is the case, and Swayman really want to play here, he can fire his agent and get another one. I think that is more realistic than Cam firing Don over this, but that would work too.

 

[Over the volcano]

Korpisalo when not cherrypicking one run in one season but instead looking at the biggest sample size possible: .903
Swayman looking at his biggest sample size possible: .919

Not one run - that was for the whole season. Last year he didn't have the luxury of playing part time alongside the last Vezina winner.

Korpisaloh yeah!

 

[DKH]

Dan why do you think he wanted Korpi over Forsberg? What about Korpisalo's game (glove? rebound control? recovery?) has him as a better bet for the Bruins than Forsberg? I'm curious why Goalie Bob gave the thumb down to the guy who seemed to be the better asset.

my goaltending was limited to standing between two boots in a pond, and a doorway in the cellar.

But he has 115 career wins before 30. Was very good twice - when playing behind a strong Columbus team and D (Werenski, Seth Jones, Garikov, David Savard), and Kings D that featured Doughty, Anderson, Durzi etc

If Swayman was signed you get Forsberg but Sorcerer Bob likes Korpi likely

Carlo & Lindholm played Tuesday and you could see they were engaged with Korpi communicating with him

Going to Boston from Ottawa is like Sam Darnold going from Jets to Vikings, Jim Plunkett ending up on Raiders after Patriots

Or Rick Sutcliffe in 1984 mid season going from Cleveland to the Cubs

Sutcliffe’s 1984 season began with a 4-5 record and a 5.15 ERA in Cleveland before he got traded to the Cubs, where he went 16-1 with a 2.69 ERA

“We were in last place, 27 games out and overnight, I was in 1st place,” recalled Sutcliffe as he credited his teammates as the reason his season turned around the way it did. “Each one of these guys had a lot to do with that summer.”

I expect Swayman & Korpi to replicate Rask & Halak over next 3 years

 

[GordonHowe]

"Forced to scramble"??? Words of journalistic sensationalism.
The Bruins may be forced at the moment due to prolonged contract negotiations, but don't let anyone be fooled they are not scrabbling. The use of the word scrabble implies 'caught off guard,' but the Bruins knew this was a possibility going into the fall and possibly the season. I would call it a major inconvenience, but definitely not a scramble. Yes, I am critical of people who over exaggerate a situation at the expense of casual readers/fans who may not follow developments closely or know what to expect on the business side of the game.
Other than disagreeing with that statement the article seems to be a recap of 'What's Bruin and the Dom hockey podcast' discussion of the contract negotiations.

My apologies.

I do not listen to that program.

 

[Over the volcano]

Career playoff save %
Swayman .922
Korpisalo .922

 

[DKH]

Career playoff save %
Swayman .922
Korpisalo .922

Interestingly they both beat the Leafs lol

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Career playoff save %
Swayman .922
Korpisalo .922


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Who needs Swayman? Dump him for whatever you can get and use the cap space elsewhere.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Chandler stephenson, center who signed for less and one year removed from top 3 forwards minutes on a championship vegas team.

But they already signed Lindholm.

They wouldn't have a need for both of them.

 

[Over the volcano]

Who needs Swayman? Dump him for whatever you can get and use the cap space elsewhere.

Like three more Korpisalos

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Sure and then they let DeBrusk walk without replacing him. So they plugged a hole at center and created one at wing. Then they traded for a backup goalie that’s overpaid, and overpaid for a bottom pairing free agent dman to add to the over paid bottom pairing dman they traded for at the deadline. That’s a lot of money to be paying bottom pairing dmen and backs ups, no? Especially when their top 6 is filled with dudes they elevated from the bottom 6 because they didn’t have enough actual top 6 players

So, do you think they should have spent less and got players inferior to Zadorov, Peeke and Korpisalo? That doesn't really make for a better team, does it?

 

[Over the volcano]

Interestingly they both beat the Leafs lol

I knew there was something I liked about that guy

 

[pemulis]

Swayman 2020-2021 .945 sv%
Korpisalo 2021-2022 .877 sv%

It’s fun cherry picking small samples huh?

Swayman 2024 preseason 0.000 sv%

Korpisalo 2024 preseason 1.000 sv%

 

[Pia8988]

So, do you think they should have spent less and got players inferior to Zadorov, Peeke and Korpisalo? That doesn't really make for a better team, does it?

They certainly could have gotten at worst equal if not better for less money in regards to Peeke and Korpisalo

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

They certainly could have gotten at worst equal if not better for less money in regards to Peeke and Korpisalo

If they could have they would have.

 

[Pia8988]

If they could have they would have.

How is that logical? They aren’t infallible in their player choices.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

How is that logical? They aren’t infallible in their player choices.

Of course not.

But you suggest there were such obvious players available. I would think they would know better than us.

 

[DKH]

Who needs Swayman? Dump him for whatever you can get and use the cap space elsewhere.

Why would you dump Swayman ?

Makes no sense

 

[DKH]

So, do you think they should have spent less and got players inferior to Zadorov, Peeke and Korpisalo? That doesn't really make for a better team, does it?

All you need to know is the Bruins had 135 points and the GM got a C in the Athletic from their followers

When I want objective Bruins analysis I look in the mirror

 

[JAD]

My apologies.

I do not listen to that program.

No need for you to apologize, my friend. I was venting at the poor choice of words, the phrase, used by whoever wrote that article.
It's been a bad couple of months for me and today I find myself officially unemployed. Maybe I'll find and open that bottle of Johnny Walker Black stashed in the cabinet under the kitchen counter to sooth my nerves. Won't happen, but it is a thought.

 

[NeelyDan]

Would you guys judge me if you knew I was cruising down a small town street, blasting We Run by Strange Advance as the sun sets on the horizon, staring contemplatively as I long for resolution to the Jeremy Swayman contract dispute

 

[GordonHowe]

No need for you to apologize, my friend. I was venting at the poor choice of words, the phrase, used by whoever wrote that article.
It's been a bad couple of months for me and today I find myself officially unemployed. Maybe I'll find and open that bottle of Johnny Walker Black stashed in the cabinet under the kitchen counter to sooth my nerves. Won't happen, but it is a thought.

I'm sorry to hear this.

I have been unemployed for lengthy periods of time. No fun. As you know.

I'm a drinker myself, though far less these days.

I know what it's like to wake up feeling like shit on several levels. Decades, darling.

So, what you do with that bottle of Johnnie Walker Black is up to you.

I am the last person in the world to judge anyone, about anything. (Though, of course, I do.)

Regardless, sending the good thought your way and trust I will see you in the music thread soon enough,

M.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

All you need to know is the Bruins had 135 points and the GM got a C in the Athletic from their followers

When I want objective Bruins analysis I look in the mirror

I understand.

 

[ranold26]

Would you guys judge me if you knew I was cruising down a small town street, blasting We Run by Strange Advance as the sun sets on the horizon, staring contemplatively as I long for resolution to the Jeremy Swayman contract dispute

Great tune.
/puts on Frozen Ghost - Should I See.

 

[Dr Quincy]

So, do you think they should have spent less and got players inferior to Zadorov, Peeke and Korpisalo? That doesn't really make for a better team, does it?

They could have spent less for Korpisalo and easily gotten a better goalie.

And if the choice is Zadorov and no Swayman OR Swayman and no Zadorov it's not even a debate. Having a crap goalie really doesn't make for a better team.

If they could have they would have.

This is ridiculous. They could have easily gotten a player cheaper and better than Korpisalo and they wouldn't have to give up a Vezina goalie to do it (though they also wouldn't have gotten Letourneau). It's ludicrous to say that there weren't better and cheaper goalies available.