Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman II - still waiting

[Dennis Bonvie]

They could play with a 22 man roster and have up to 600k in cap space, depending on who they send down to the AHL. And they could bank even more by sending 2 waiver exempt players to the AHL on off days.

Still not an ideal situation.

Surely Swayman could take less money in the first year ($6 or $7 mil) of the contract to make things easier.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Still not an ideal situation.

Surely Swayman could take less money in the first year ($6 or $7 mil) of the contract to make things easier.

That’s not how it works. AAV/cap is constant through the deal.

 

[DominicT]

That’s not how it works. AAV/cap is constant through the deal.

Exactly.

Unless he signs after day one of the season, then the cap hit will be higher in season one. See William Nylander.

 

[Hookslide]

That’s not how it works. AAV/cap is constant through the deal.

Thanks was not sure about that myself.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

That’s not how it works. AAV/cap is constant through the deal.

No kidding? Didn't know that.

In my Emily Latella voice, "Never mind".

 

[Hookslide]

That’s not how it works. AAV/cap is constant through the deal.

Thanks was not sure about that myself.

 

[DominicT]

The NHL has yet to release how many days will actually be in the season (longer this year because of the 4 nations tournament) and how many days remain after trade deadline, the rough estimation is that for every $50,000 in cap space they have, it will equal about $240,000 in trade deadline cap space. Not to bum you out, but Milan Lucic's bonus overage cost them $240,000 in deadline cap space.

By my math and based on what I think a 22-man roster would look like, Swayman can sign for a maximum of $9,348,332 cap hit.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

The NHL has yet to release how many days will actually be in the season (longer this year because of the 4 nations tournament) and how many days remain after trade deadline, the rough estimation is that for every $50,000 in cap space they have, it will equal about $240,000 in trade deadline cap space. Not to bum you out, but Milan Lucic's bonus overage cost them $240,000 in deadline cap space.

By my math and based on what I think a 22-man roster would look like, Swayman can sign for a maximum of $9,348,332 cap hit.

WOW!

He's not going to get close to that, is he?

 

[DominicT]

WOW!

He's not going to get close to that, is he?

If I knew, I'd tell you.

 

[bearcountry17]

People need to ease up on the drama. Our very own captain held out until a week before the first preseason game in 2011. McAvoy held out until the day before in 2019, Pastrnak 4 days in 2017. Our entire leadership group has gone through this and all appear to have no hard feelings.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

The NHL has yet to release how many days will actually be in the season (longer this year because of the 4 nations tournament) and how many days remain after trade deadline, the rough estimation is that for every $50,000 in cap space they have, it will equal about $240,000 in trade deadline cap space. Not to bum you out, but Milan Lucic's bonus overage cost them $240,000 in deadline cap space.

By my math and based on what I think a 22-man roster would look like, Swayman can sign for a maximum of $9,348,332 cap hit.

So if he signs at $8.5m that would leave just enough cap space to fit one PTO player on the roster at league minimum?

 

[Dr Quincy]

So if he signs at $8.5m that would leave just enough cap space to fit one PTO player on the roster at league minimum?

If they are going with a 22 man roster, it means that they'll have 1 extra D and 1 extra F.

There's a spot for either both Poitras and Lysell, which means that one of Jones/Beecher/Kastilic/Brazeua sits.

Or one of Poitras/Lysell makes it, and the PTO guy sits, or one of the 4 mentioned before sits

If the PTO guy is better now than both Lysell and Poitras, they go to the minors and you have someone like Letterieri/Tufte/Viel be your extra F.

A min. salary PTO guy will be cheaper than Lysell or Poitras, plus likely won't have bonuses like those rookies do that would reduce next year's cap.

 

[bruinsfan1968]

So if he signs at $8.5m that would leave just enough cap space to fit one PTO player on the roster at league minimum?

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[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

People need to ease up on the drama. Our very own captain held out until a week before the first preseason game in 2011. McAvoy held out until the day before in 2019, Pastrnak 4 days in 2017. Our entire leadership group has gone through this and all appear to have no hard feelings.

And those threads were exactly like this one.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1826774674434654231

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

I guess Don will just continue to Swqueezy him for a couple more weeks and save another 400k…

 

[JAD]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1826774674434654231

Is it the agent leaking this speculative information to try and 'sway' public opinion and pressure the Bruins into more $$$.???

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

I guess Don will just continue to Swqueezy him for a couple more weeks and save another 400k…

Based on what? Your gut? Trying to sound relevant?

What facts?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Hutcheon and Murphy. Woodward and Bernstein. Same thing really.

 

[HustleB]

What if (hear me out):

The delay is that there are two types of deals on the table?

The first is something akin to the Saros deal. 8 by 8. Ish.

The second is a medium contract. Four years, $25M. Again, a rough estimate.

Advantages and disadvantages to both types of deal for both sides. Would you be happy with either? Neither? Preference?

Either but I prefer 8x8. Swayman seems special to me the longer the better.

There is definitely value in getting cap space in the shorter deal but the goalie market will likely put Swayman at 10+ in 4 years possibly up to 12 per year.

I lock this kid up because he’s special. Outside injury it’s all upside. I believe insurance covers the injury risk.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Based on what? Your gut? Trying to sound relevant?

What facts?

I hadn’t thought that much about it that much tbh. Other than it’s his job.

 

[Pia8988]

Yes or no question: Do you think the front office's plan since last summer's arbitration hearing and going into the year was "Let's wait until September 2024 to sign Swayman"?

Simple yes or no.

I think their plan was for Swayman to cow to their wishes immediately

 

[bruinmann77]

Bussi might be getting a chance to prove he can be a back up. No news on a possible PTO addition

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

You know we are in a good place whenever the enemy jumps all over some measly scrap of news that looks mildly damaging. They’re not looking forward to facing Sway more with Zadorov and Lohrie a year older. We’ve seen this 100 times before. I walked into a get together last night - hadn’t seen these two in 10 years. Leaf fans…”hey, how’s it going? Too bad about Swayman”….

 

[Fenian24]

I think their plan was for Swayman to cow to their wishes immediately

Ahh, the Sinden negotiating plan.