The Bruins can t miss on this because they need a replacement for Bergeron.If you trade a goalie offer either with a package to get a first line center.No one is even close in the organization.Only other option is to overpay in free agency,and that will cost you to lose more players due to the salary cap.
Proposal: Jeremy Swayman for Casey Mittlestadt, Isak Rosen and a 2nd.
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TheKrebsCycle
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Swayman could be the rare goalie because of age and performance, that could pull a 1st rounder plus . See Schneider ( except Swayman is better ) . I think if he went somewhere like Ottawa that would really set them up for the future ( division complications aside ) . The cost would be significantly more than a Middlestat level return regardless..
ManofSteel55
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Exactly. Schneider was traded for a draft pick at the draft. How often do top 10 picks never make it? The OP's suggestion is Swayman for a guy who is on the cusp of his first 30 goal, 60 point season in his second full season in the NHL. They aren't close at all.
Let me state the current cap situation for the Bruins.
They have $73 million tied up in 13 players for next year. That means that have about $10.5 million to sign about 9 players, including Swayman, Bergeron, Krejci or their replacements.
Swayman will probably cost about $4 million.
I think it would be cap malfeasance to use what very little cap space they have to pay that to a back up goalie.
I suggested Mittlestadt because he can play 2C and is relatively cheap. I think it takes more than Rosen and a second but I don’t foresee a scenario where both he and Ullmark are on the team unless they plan on them playing forward as well.
They have $73 million tied up in 13 players for next year. That means that have about $10.5 million to sign about 9 players, including Swayman, Bergeron, Krejci or their replacements.
Swayman will probably cost about $4 million.
I think it would be cap malfeasance to use what very little cap space they have to pay that to a back up goalie.
I suggested Mittlestadt because he can play 2C and is relatively cheap. I think it takes more than Rosen and a second but I don’t foresee a scenario where both he and Ullmark are on the team unless they plan on them playing forward as well.
ON3M4N
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$6 million of the $73 million that's tied up is on Forbort & Reilly. Both can be moved or bought out in the off-season.
Sun God Nika
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Why would Ottawa give up Pinto when they can offersheet him in the 3's for a second round pick?
TheKrebsCycle
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Because Boston would match it rather than lose him for that ? 3 million for Swayman would be a bargain . Look what Knight garnered. I think the only way they deal him would be if Boston wins the cup and they do him a solid dealing him to a situation where he’s able to be the guy . I personally think that place will ultimately still be Boston ( deal Ullmark at some pt instead) .
LouJersey
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I’d rather the Sabres keep winning the top organization prize for prospects and see nothing ever come of them then To trade them a legit goalie that would be their #1 for a decade.
Bounces R Way
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You still need to replace those 2 players with other players. Let's say they are on ELC that means 2M
And then you have to add Bergy and Krejci Bonuses
Sun God Nika
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Boston is cap tight if Ottawa pushes it to 4M AAV boston might not be able to match it.
EichHart
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TheKrebsCycle
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I think worse case scenario is they match a high offer sheet/suck it up and deal him for a better return when it’s allowed ( ie I think you can’t trade a player for a certain period after they sign an offer sheet ) . They’ll have time to move around bodies if need be imo .
Schneider/Anderson say hi and they are almost never this combination of high performing and youthful . He easily gets a 1 st plus
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Oddbob
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So 2 trades against many many more that were much less is what equals true value?
Oh your right, he will fetch 3 1sts and 8 teams will make this offer.
ON3M4N
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TheKrebsCycle
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Find a similar aged goalie that has similar results that was dealt . I’ll wait . It’s not an apples to apples comparison. Im not a Bruins fan /have no skin in the game ( opposite really ) .
Moving Ullmark would make more sense but since he has a full NMC, that's not really an option.
ON3M4N
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Turns to a M-NTC after this season:
16 team NTC next year
15 team NTC the year after
The one caveat that tends to get overlooked with offer sheets is whether a player would sign it. Montreal approached Brayden Point and he declined (Montreal then pivoted to Sebastian Aho). When the Devils were in cap purgatory before the 2006-07 season, Brian Gionta said he declined overtures to sign an offer sheet. Gionta had won a Cup with the team in 2003 and felt some degree of loyalty.
It's possible that Swayman is happy with his situation in Boston. But he could always use the threat of an offer sheet to get his next contract with Boston.
We'll see what the RFA thresholds for this coming offseason will be. A 4.2 mil AAV offer sheet would have netted a 2nd rounder with the current 82.5 mil cap. Next year's cap is expected to be 83.5 mil, so the RFA range will probably get a slight bump.
It'd take some cap maneuvering, but I think Boston could handle Swayman getting something close to the Spencer Knight second contract (3x4.5).
And then the other pesky thing with offer sheets is the timing. Say you did offer sheet Swayman on the first day of free agency, Boston would get a week to match. Meanwhile the rest of the goalie market would commence while you were waiting. If Boston did match, then you'd be stuck with the leftovers on the UFA market or you'd be on the trade hunt.
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