I think the Leafs will sign him. But I'm not convinced that it will be cheap.
Friedman: Jeff Skinner Buyout is a possibility.
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PatLaFontaineASMR
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Leafs are a no brainer. Looks like both Bertuzzi and Domi are leaving. Seems like Treliving really likes DeBrusk to fill one of the spots, Skinner would come way cheaper than Bertuzzi.
He gets to come home stack up points and re-gain his market
He gets to come home stack up points and re-gain his market
Uncle Scrooge
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Well yeah but if you're not going to use that cap space, you might as well have him on the roster. How much you then play him is another question. He's 2nd on the team in PP goals the last 2 years for example.
Buying him out next summer is avoiding 2.4M of dead cap in 29-30, not to mention slightly reduced penalty for the years before.
If they can find use for the cap space now then by all means, but like I said before, they should already have 10M+ to shop with.
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He's also a reason as to why the power play has been piss poor. His loner play style doesn't equate to great movement. A lot of his PP goals don't have his teammates involved as much as you'd like for that situation. Leads to more problems than it solves.
20+ goal scorer who is only going to cost $$ to get. The interest from various fanbases is understandable.
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He could slot into Marner's old spot and put up maybe 60% of his production in the regular season.
Skinner has yet to play a single playoff game, so he would be a pretty good fit for Marner in the postseason too
Skinner has yet to play a single playoff game, so he would be a pretty good fit for Marner in the postseason too
Uncle Scrooge
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That's fair, but in the last 2 years he still has as many PP goals as Marchessault, more than Caufield or Duchene. The season is 82 games and injuries happen. As much as anyone would dislike the player, surely there would be times when at least having the depth and options isn't a bad thing.
Skinner's career has been very up and down. He's scored +30 goals after down years multiple times. You never know if he finds great scoring touch, even if it's just for a month or two.
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When have the Leafs shown in the last decade they overpay depth pieces? They have been one of the best teams in the league of finding cheap depth. And they have all the leverage if the rumors are true and Skinner doesn't want to be anywhere else.
He's not a need, he's a gamble.
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Skinner the most unfairly maligned man in the nhl right now.
If he’s cut he’s gonna sign with Toronto, score a shit ton of big playoff goals, and the leafs will win the cup on the wings of one Jeff Skinner. They will then make a statue of him, which Mitch has to polish everyday. It is known.
If he’s cut he’s gonna sign with Toronto, score a shit ton of big playoff goals, and the leafs will win the cup on the wings of one Jeff Skinner. They will then make a statue of him, which Mitch has to polish everyday. It is known.
I believe Rutherford drafted him and the Canucks happen to have spots for at least 2 top6 wingers.
The only hurdle is, Skinner is not a Tochett type.
Points is great but Toch has shown he will bench the likes of a 39goal scorer like Kuzmenko if they dont play the right way.
The only hurdle is, Skinner is not a Tochett type.
Points is great but Toch has shown he will bench the likes of a 39goal scorer like Kuzmenko if they dont play the right way.
Skinner isn't a depth piece, he's a scoring winger with a resume of consistent productivity. I can see them opting for Skinner over paying either of Bertuzzi or Domi their rumored asks.
As it stands, the Leafs haven't had the cap available in recent years to overpay for depth pieces. But they're in a position this year where there is some flexibility and the areas that need to be addressed are ones that require more impactful players.
Regardless of where they decide to spend, the Leafs are going to be making some gambles this summer. Buckle up.
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So when are the buyouts being announced?
Yesterday I kept hearing the window opens "48hrs after the Cup is awarded".....did the league mean literally 48 hours?
Thought we'd see some movement today at least.
Yesterday I kept hearing the window opens "48hrs after the Cup is awarded".....did the league mean literally 48 hours?
Thought we'd see some movement today at least.
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Every team makes a gamble when they commit money to players. Skinner is not a Treliving player. You can't compare him to Bertuzzi or Domi they are not cut from the same cloth. Leafs have skill and goal scoring.
If he was to come here, he is not a priority and would be cheap. Maybe gets the Jarnkrork deal. The cap is going to the defense and goaltending first and foremost
No GM Is tying up 4.5M in Skinner for 3 years until he is 35 years old.
I doubt he gets 3M this offseason, but if he does get that or more, it will be on a 1 year deal.
Expecting Adams to find a taker for three years of Skinner is asking the impossible without adding major assets they'd rather not lose.
Skinner is a guy who could score 40 goals and surprise no one. Volume shooter with a consistently high success rate. Bertuzzi and Domi are lower tier forwards. More physical, but less skilled. Preferably not your primary scorers.
I think he's looking at the Taylor Hall Buffalo Sabres contract. He'll sign for a year, but he probably runs you $6m.
Uncle Scrooge
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With 23.5M in cap space already with no one significant besides Luukkonen to re-sign, the Sabres won't be able to use the 7.55M in space opened up by buying out Skinner, which makes it dumb to buy him out now.
They definitely don't need cap space now, but certainly will in 3 years when their current young NHLers (Quinn, Peterka, Byram, Benson) have gotten big long-term deals and the young guns in their pipeline (Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund) are off their ELCs, and that's when they'll be stuck with a 2.44M buyout cap hit for 3 years.
And of course this is ignoring that Skinner is incredibly inconsistent and can go from looking like garbage to a top line winger from one year to another. While he wasn't great this year, they might as well kept him hoping for a rebound in 24/25.
Reminds me of the Preds buying out Duchene last summer and then proceeding to sit on a ton of cap space for no reason. Idiotic.
They definitely don't need cap space now, but certainly will in 3 years when their current young NHLers (Quinn, Peterka, Byram, Benson) have gotten big long-term deals and the young guns in their pipeline (Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund) are off their ELCs, and that's when they'll be stuck with a 2.44M buyout cap hit for 3 years.
And of course this is ignoring that Skinner is incredibly inconsistent and can go from looking like garbage to a top line winger from one year to another. While he wasn't great this year, they might as well kept him hoping for a rebound in 24/25.
Reminds me of the Preds buying out Duchene last summer and then proceeding to sit on a ton of cap space for no reason. Idiotic.
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It's 48 league hours, so if I am heading this correctly, it will be 1 pm EST today (Weds 26th)So when are the buyouts being announced?
Yesterday I kept hearing the window opens "48hrs after the Cup is awarded".....did the league mean literally 48 hours?
Thought we'd see some movement today at least.
