Player Discussion Jayden Struble Part 2

[WeThreeKings]

Let's hope so.
I've been disappointed many times already. Beaulieu, Mete, Juulsen, Fleury, Norlinder all looked great when they just started. Even Guhle and Harris, I find that they were better in his first season than his 2nd season.

Sophomore slump is a term for a reason. Not that I agree with what you are saying in totality.

 

[yianik]

I would hear alot about D men needing about 4 tears in pro to see what they have.

Except for Reinbacher all our D are lower 1st or lower round picks so no bag of blue chip players. Naturally enough such players are going to have a longer than shorter road to being the best they are going to become.

So no kidding inconsistencies and lots of lows. But if they have some good games at least there is potential.

We have numbers on D and some decent prospects. We are looking for no. 1, 2, 3 and 4 D men. I believe in Guhle we have a no.2D. For most of the prospects I don't think we can say we know what their ceiling will be with any confidence. So let's just see in this year 3 for a few of them, how they do. I have seen the Habs move out a ridiculous number of good D men or D prospects for lesser return. I don't want to see anymore of that.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Sophomore slump is a term for a reason. Not that I agree with what you are saying in totality.

I didn’t get to watch this year much at all.

I know he went through a bit of a rough patch. What’s your take on his season?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I didn’t get to watch this year much at all.

I know he went through a bit of a rough patch. What’s your take on his season?

I thought he played very well, he had to match up with the best players in the league and sometimes on his off side. On a team that was one line deep.

There were moments that weren't good, there were hits he took you don't want him to take but you rarely see kids his age play the minutes and competition he did and perform as well as he did.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I didn’t get to watch this year much at all.

I know he went through a bit of a rough patch. What’s your take on his season?

Struble has more value than many here give him. He has good mobility, a high compete level, some offensive flair, is strong on his skates and can physically intimidate opponents. The Canadiens' management's view of Struble is reflected in that he was called up last year well before Mailloux.

Struble is a gamer, who, along with Xhekaj, will offer a physical response to those opponents who play a heavier game. It would be a mistake to trade Struble before we truly know what we have in this promising player.

 

[Tyson]

Struble has more value than many here give him. He has good mobility, a high compete level, some offensive flair, is strong on his skates and can physically intimidate opponents. The Canadiens' management's view of Struble is reflected in that he was called up last year well before Mailloux.

Struble is a gamer, who, along with Xhekaj, will offer a physical response to those opponents who play a heavier game. It would be a mistake to trade Struble before we truly know what we have in this promising player.

Well said Admiral

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Struble has more value than many here give him. He has good mobility, a high compete level, some offensive flair, is strong on his skates and can physically intimidate opponents. The Canadiens' management's view of Struble is reflected in that he was called up last year well before Mailloux.

Struble is a gamer, who, along with Xhekaj, will offer a physical response to those opponents who play a heavier game. It would be a mistake to trade Struble before we truly know what we have in this promising player.

Agreed 100%. I like him a lot. He's tough and he's tremendously mobile. We don't know yet what his ceiling is either.

 

[Habssince89]

Struble has more value than many here give him. He has good mobility, a high compete level, some offensive flair, is strong on his skates and can physically intimidate opponents. The Canadiens' management's view of Struble is reflected in that he was called up last year well before Mailloux.

Struble is a gamer, who, along with Xhekaj, will offer a physical response to those opponents who play a heavier game. It would be a mistake to trade Struble before we truly know what we have in this promising player.

I see him as a more athletic/talented Gorges. A very useful piece.

 

[Paddyjack]

Let's hope so.
I've been disappointed many times already. Beaulieu, Mete, Juulsen, Fleury, Norlinder all looked great when they just started. Even Guhle and Harris, I find that they were better in his first season than his 2nd season.

I'm sorry, what?? None of these looked that great compared to Strubble. Heck, Beaulieu had trouble making the roster even though there was a gaping hole destined for him and Tinordi every season. Norlinder looked great.... when?? Maybe Juulsen, yes, but then things happened.

Yeah Strubble strugled at the end of.... his first PRO season. The guy went almost directly from University to the NHL ffs. Physical, mobile....I think this guy is a keeper.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I'm sorry, what?? None of these looked that great compared to Strubble. Heck, Beaulieu had trouble making the roster even though there was a gaping hole destined for him and Tinordi every season. Norlinder looked great.... when?? Maybe Juulsen, yes, but then things happened.

Yeah Strubble strugled at the end of.... his first PRO season. The guy went almost directly from University to the NHL ffs. Physical, mobile....I think this guy is a keeper.

A keeper unless a team sees him as a valuable trade piece (similar to Romanov 2022) and not as a throw-in.

 

[Wats]

If he can be what Romanov was with us, it's a pretty good W.

 

[EXPOS123]

Don’t know - he’s been a injured quite often and while he may be strong, he didn’t exactly show that much sandpaper.

A #5/6 dman - if he can stay healthy

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Don’t know - he’s been a injured quite often and while he may be strong, he didn’t exactly show that much sandpaper.

A #5/6 dman - if he can stay healthy

Didn't show much sandpaper????

Have you considered opening your eyes when watching the games?

 

[BaseballCoach]

Don’t know - he’s been a injured quite often and while he may be strong, he didn’t exactly show that much sandpaper.

A #5/6 dman - if he can stay healthy

Nothing wrong with that. Competitive teams need strong 3rd pairing d-men who cannot be exploited.

 

[CHwest]

Struble has more value than many here give him. He has good mobility, a high compete level, some offensive flair, is strong on his skates and can physically intimidate opponents. The Canadiens' management's view of Struble is reflected in that he was called up last year well before Mailloux.

Struble is a gamer, who, along with Xhekaj, will offer a physical response to those opponents who play a heavier game. It would be a mistake to trade Struble before we truly know what we have in this promising player.

This board is weird, folks have all sorts of patience for "offensive" players that don't produce and yet defensemen that everyone knows or should know take a lot more time to develop, they want to write off.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Don’t know - he’s been a injured quite often and while he may be strong, he didn’t exactly show that much sandpaper.

A #5/6 dman - if he can stay healthy

Well, the clip below shows that Struble might have a bit more sandpaper than you think.

He's the type of steel you need when you go into Florida and they try to run you out of the rink. This kid and Xhehaj are backing down to no one. They will create more space for our smaller, more skilled players; Caufield, Hutson, etc. and allow them to play much bigger. Of equally importance, is that both Struble and Xhekaj can skate and have skills. These are the type of players you win with.

They will be building blocks going forward.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

This board is weird, folks have all sorts of patience for "offensive" players that don't produce and yet defensemen that everyone knows or should know take a lot more time to develop, they want to write off.

And for those who think that this kid has no offensive pop to his game watch the clip below. Watch Struble's skating, his acceleration with the puck and his nose for the net.

You don't trade this type of young player (unless its an overt overpayment ) until you know how this kid will shake out.

PIT@MTL: Struble scores a goal | Montréal Canadiens

Jayden Struble doubles the Canadiens' lead

www.nhl.com

 

[Paddyjack]

Nothing wrong with that. Competitive teams need strong 3rd pairing d-men who cannot be exploited.

This. I don't understand the stigma we get on this board from people about "he is only a bottom player". Championships are also won upon bottom 6 players, they are needed. Granted, if the entire prospects pool is full of bottom 6 players, then we have a problem, but a mix of both is great.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

This. I don't understand the stigma we get on this board from people about "he is only a bottom player". Championships are also won upon bottom 6 players, they are needed. Granted, if the entire prospects pool is full of bottom 6 players, then we have a problem, but a mix of both is great.

Having ‘a mix of both’ is also a realistic assessment of your prospect pool.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

This. I don't understand the stigma we get on this board from people about "he is only a bottom player". Championships are also won upon bottom 6 players, they are needed. Granted, if the entire prospects pool is full of bottom 6 players, then we have a problem, but a mix of both is great.

He's gonna be a good player , especially with where the league is going , the guy is still a baby in defenseman years , I'd hate to lose him going forward

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Struble has more value than many here give him. He has good mobility, a high compete level, some offensive flair, is strong on his skates and can physically intimidate opponents. The Canadiens' management's view of Struble is reflected in that he was called up last year well before Mailloux.

Struble is a gamer, who, along with Xhekaj, will offer a physical response to those opponents who play a heavier game. It would be a mistake to trade Struble before we truly know what we have in this promising player.

I like him a lot. I just don’t know if he can crack the lineup long term.

Maybe he plays on his off side with X on the third pairing if Barron doesn’t work out.

On the left we’ve got Guhle, Hutson and X. On the right we’ve got RB, Mailloux and Barron. That doesn’t even factor in Matheson and Savard. It’s a logjam.

 

[Mrb1p]

I like him a lot. I just don’t know if he can crack the lineup long term.

Maybe he plays on his off side with X on the third pairing if Barron doesn’t work out.

On the left we’ve got Guhle, Hutson and X. On the right we’ve got RB, Mailloux and Barron. That doesn’t even factor in Matheson and Savard. It’s a logjam.

There's a spot for him or X on the RD third pair. They could form the nastiest third pair in the league, there's a lot of value in that.

Hutson-Reinbacher
Guhle-Mailloux/Engstrom
AX-Struble

The wild card is Mailloux/Engstrom but I like that.

You can be 100% sure that AX and Struble on the same pair would make both players that much better.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I like him a lot. I just don’t know if he can crack the lineup long term.

Maybe he plays on his off side with X on the third pairing if Barron doesn’t work out.

On the left we’ve got Guhle, Hutson and X. On the right we’ve got RB, Mailloux and Barron. That doesn’t even factor in Matheson and Savard. It’s a logjam.

Its a nice problem to have. Hughes has already demonstrated a Machavellian approach to asset management.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I like him a lot. I just don’t know if he can crack the lineup long term.

Maybe he plays on his off side with X on the third pairing if Barron doesn’t work out.

On the left we’ve got Guhle, Hutson and X. On the right we’ve got RB, Mailloux and Barron. That doesn’t even factor in Matheson and Savard. It’s a logjam.

No, he's eventually going to be traded. It's clear that Struble and Harris don't have a long term future here but they can still play well and be great players who get traded for value to help us get something we need.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

There's a spot for him or X on the RD third pair. They could form the nastiest third pair in the league, there's a lot of value in that.

Hutson-Reinbacher
Guhle-Mailloux/Engstrom
AX-Struble

The wild card is Mailloux/Engstrom but I like that.

You can be 100% sure that AX and Struble on the same pair would make both players that much better.

I would have zero problem with a Struble X pairing. Somebody has to play on the right side though.

For now I’d say we have him as our 7th. Injuries are inevitable anyway so he’ll get in the lineup.

Love Struble and the dimension he brings.