Player Discussion Jayden Struble Part 2

LaP

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Struble was always a very solid prospect, like a A-. Compare him to guys like Edmundson and Chiarot at the same age. These were purely defensive Ds that found some offense with time.
Edmundon and Chiarot did not really find offense. They are still 15-20 guys who have trouble generating any kind of offense. Realistically if you got a cup contending team they are 3rd pairing guys. Slavin and Vlasic are guys who found offense and could play in a contending team top 4.
 

26Mats

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Beaudin is ahead of Norlinder and Struble, Mailloux would have to steal his spot. TBH i could see a first pairing of Trudeau - Beaudin.
You don't think that pair is too soft? And look out, Struble could quickly establish himself as the #1 Dman. Mailloux too.

At any rate, that list was more to show how many dmen we already have at the pro level.

Can Struble be as dominant physically than those two? He's average height, closer to Suzuki than Chiarot or Edmundson. I know he's a unit of man, but can you be than dominant physically at 6'?
He may end up more in Romanov's weight class.
 
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You don't think that pair is too soft? And look out, Struble could quickly establish himself as the #1 Dman. Mailloux too.

At any rate, that list was more to show how many dmen we already have at the pro level.


He may end up more in Romanov's weight class.
Good comparaison!
 

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You forgot Engstrom, Hutson.
No this was just a list of those already in Laval and Montreal - i.e. we have too many D already going into the year in Montreal and Laval.

When Engstrom and Hutson come over, that will be even more D.
 

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Radko Gudas, Ryan Lindgren, Ian Cole & even Romanov all do so at that size.

Gudas: 6"0, 208
Lindgren: 6'0, 190

Struble is 6'0, 205.
Hitting is like anything else in hockey you have to do it often to become good at it. There are so many players who move up the ranks and get caught out at the pro level because they can't give or take a hit.
 
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Oh we'll have an abundance of NHL level D.

And I'm glad we'll have Hughes to manage what to do with the surplus, both when is the right time to move surplus and how to maximize return in trades.

In fact I think he'll try to move at least one dman this summer. We have too many going into next season:

Guhle - Savard
Matheson - Barron
Xhekaj - Edmundson
Harris - Kovacevic
Wideman

Struble - Norlinder
Trudeau - Mailloux
Fairbrother - Beaudin
Schueneman, Allard, Dello, Bilpedo, etc...
Oh wow and add Hutson and Engstrom in a year or two. When you list them out we have a pretty deep group of defenceman if even half of them really turn out well..
 

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He is just a bit smaller than Romanov and he is a physical specimen, so I guess it's not a problem.
Can Struble be as dominant physically than those two? He's average height, closer to Suzuki than Chiarot or Edmundson. I know he's a unit of man, but can you be than dominant physically at 6'?
 

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It's nice to read such positive reviews. The less flashy guys don't get as much talk as the flashier dmen, but they end up being really important for team success and to make the flashier dmen stand out.
It's like me playing medic in the old battfield games, I never got the recognition I deserved 😔
 
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Harris brings the least
After Guhle he have the best defense of the bunch. Great hockey IQ and wheels on this kid, don't count him out because of his muffin shot.

He's still the odd man out tho. Too much quality in the pipeline.

Barron too, great tools but too clumsy and can't handle pressure. Both are not top 4 material imo

Radko Gudas, Ryan Lindgren, Ian Cole & even Romanov all do so at that size.

Gudas: 6"0, 208
Lindgren: 6'0, 190

Struble is 6'0, 205.
Good comparaisons, i think he's a Gudas in the making. He can really get under people skin and thrives in that seat. Can play right side and would be a great sturdy presence next to Hutson in a couple of years.
 

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Beaudin is ahead of Norlinder and Struble, Mailloux would have to steal his spot. TBH i could see a first pairing of Trudeau - Beaudin.
I liked the way Beaudin kept the puck in st the blue line. Always drives me crazy when D-men let the puck go through them consistently. Brisebois used to annoy me.

Could well be just remembering a few examples.
 

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Beaudin is ahead of Norlinder and Struble, Mailloux would have to steal his spot. TBH i could see a first pairing of Trudeau - Beaudin.
I watch Laval regularly and I can tell you with certainty that Beaudin is not ahead of Norlinder. No way. Beaudin has been a healthy scratch more than once. Beaudin imo is not considered as a legitimate Habs prospects. He was traded for an ECHLer.
 

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Been hoping we get that type of luxury for the last 15 years, and we're nearly there, still pretty much exactly what Hughes did to acquire Dach, and while I loved Romanov, with all those young dmen we had this year, I didn't exactly miss him, while Dach was a dire need up front.

I guess we can expect another one to be traded in the next 2 years, at the very least, cause at some point, we can't ice all of them, nor can we ice only rookies on the back-end.
I loved Romanov, like I loved Emelin, D guys who hit like that impact the game. But you are right, HUGO traded for Dach thinking he could be a top 6C, so yes that's worth Romanov.

And that overabundance is what signifies a contender. They have the surplus of quality and quantity to get pieces needed. Just look at the AVs, moving out Barron, Ryan Graves and Timmins.

There is hope for us. I mean the top 6C spot has promise, and if we have a top D in there, as well as at least one or two top 3 D, we have the makings of something.
 

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Edmundon and Chiarot did not really find offense. They are still 15-20 guys who have trouble generating any kind of offense. Realistically if you got a cup contending team they are 3rd pairing guys. Slavin and Vlasic are guys who found offense and could play in a contending team top 4.

Edmundson and Chiarot have both played in the top 4 in a Cup Final.....Edmundson with two different teams.
 
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Guhle - Mailloux
Hutson - Barron
Harris - Kovacevic
Xhekaj
Engstrom

Not even in an order.

But all them as young D, I put ahead of Struble on a depth chart.

Not to mention I expect Matheson stays a bit longer.

And then a battle with Trudeau, Norlinder, plus any added picks we get this year. His road will be long and hard (thats what she said) in Montreal
 

DinosaurBones

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so what happened with Struble's production this year? He did have offensive upside from what I saw.
Struble's play didnt diminish. His O upside was definitely higher in the couple years coming out of the draft, but he has been relied on significantly more in a shutdown role in the years since. He was still NE's 2nd most offensive D, but his focus has shifted to more of defensive role.
Projection can still be in the area of a 25pt/solid, steady D though.
 

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so what happened with Struble's production this year? He did have offensive upside from what I saw.

it never materialized, they could have used him on the PP and the coaching staff (who is one of the best PP coaches in the NCAA before taking over last year as HC) opted not to so that should tell you something.

He moves the puck well and can rush the puck up ice but so many times he would do all this and nothing would come of it for whatever reason. Posters got on Harris for his lack of offense but,

In Harris's last 2 years, 58 games played, 11 goals, 39 pts,
In Struble's last 2 years, 65 games played, 4 goals, 26 pts.
 

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Hitting is like anything else in hockey you have to do it often to become good at it. There are so many players who move up the ranks and get caught out at the pro level because they can't give or take a hit.
Or they get caught out of position too often going after the big hit
 
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ZUKI

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After Guhle he have the best defense of the bunch. Great hockey IQ and wheels on this kid, don't count him out because of his muffin shot.

He's still the odd man out tho. Too much quality in the pipeline.

Barron too, great tools but too clumsy and can't handle pressure. Both are not top 4 material imo
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Or maybe they are just playing their rookie season. Just maybe
 

Destopcorner

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Or maybe they are just playing their rookie season. Just maybe
Possible ... but we can already see what's what. Internal pressure coming from our many good young D's means only the cream will stay.

Matheson-Mailloux
X-Guhle
Engstrom-Barron
Hutson-Struble
Harris-Kovacevic
Trudeau-Norlinder

Plus the RHD we're about to pick... .
 

ZUKI

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Possible ... but we can already see what's what. Internal pressure coming from our many good young D's means only the cream will stay.

Matheson-Mailloux
X-Guhle
Engstrom-Barron
Hutson-Struble
Harris-Kovacevic
Trudeau-Norlinder

Plus the RHD we're about to pick... .
with 30 games played in the NHL,for one of the worst teams with half the players having injuries, let say that i understand that Barron is sometime in trouble in front of the pressure
 

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