Confirmed with Link: Jaromir Jagr has re-signed with the Devils

[glenwo2]

I preached that for two seasons.

You did?

I don't remember seeing you around these parts.



In all seriousness, though, Torts was a big reason why he didn't fare so well in NY. I bet if Gaborik was still there but AV was the coach, he'd be doing as well as he is now with LA.


Anyway, back on-topic : Jagr is back and so are his Postgame Shenanigans with the Media.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Team needs a #1 scorer that shoots LH.

Devils are a Cap team with the new owners. I would be shocked if the Devils don't put a serious offer for Vanek/Gaborik.

15 players signed and a ~20 million in cap space. Fayne and Larsson will both be low cap hit players. The only forwards that aren't signed for next year are 4th liners. I won't be surprised at all if we sign 3 high quality forwards with one of them being either Vanek or Gaborik.

People seem to think Lou is now okay with losing.......they would be wrong.

And this has to be the year for him to stand up again and prove it like he used to. There was a reason the Devils fan motto was "In Lou we trust!" After he suffered the Kovy debacle, he became less Lou-like. I hunger for the other Lou. He started to come back with the robbery of Schneider from Vancouver, but that was it. For the Devils to become threatening again, he has to improve this roster with proven scorers. Git er done, Lou!

 

[Bad Goalie]

One of Sal/Volch will be gone and I could see Ryder and Brunner dealt.

There's enough dead weight on the roster to deal away for more $ to play with. Lou will cut the chaff and make the room and $ available. There are guys in Albany who can play like a few of the hangers on for entry level contracts.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Not sure where you get your numbers but Fayne at 4 million would be on the high end. I would actually prefer he walks and we sign Zidlicky if Fayne gets anything more than 3 million. I mean Zidlicky > Fayne and we can probably resign Zidlicky for ~4 million.

I have no doubt that one of Volchenkov or Salvador will be bought out.

Merrill, Gelinas, and Larsson will most likely be starters next season.

I can't believe Lou can live with the human turnover machine (Sal) for another season.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Depends. I think Ryder can bring back a mid-level pick or an AHL'er who might be ready to step into a bottom6 role. Brunner might have some value as part of a package to bring in a top6 wing.

Maybe Lou can fleece the 'Nucks again. They have a LW prospect who scored for them at season's end who skates well and has a great shot (and loves to take it) and a nose for the net. He'll be 22 at the start of next season. He was the new darling of the Canucks fan base. He's still got some growing to do on the D learning curve (got into the Torts dog house for a couple blind blue line backhand passes), but would really benefit from Jag's set-ups and be a positive addition to the PP. Nicklas Jensen.

He played very well with Sedin as his center. The veteran guidance was absorbed like a sponge. Jagr would provide even better guidance as he loves to teach and his work ethic would also be absorbed. Just a thought, but the kid was a #1 selection for Vancouver and is really starting to show his worth.

 

[Bad Goalie]

I think Jags can put up 60+ points still--I wouldn't be even close to surprised. But that is not enough we need more. I'm just saying we can't only depend on Jagr this season if we want to make the playoffs and win a round.


What I meant by my comment is that I hope Lou still tries to actually fix the top six instead of depending on the fact that Jagr can do what he did this year(which I think he will but like I said it might not be enough).

Okay and I think I concurred with you on the second part as well. If this happens, Jags may put up 80 points. He wasn't happy with the 65.

 

[Bad Goalie]

You did?

I don't remember seeing you around these parts.



In all seriousness, though, Torts was a big reason why he didn't fare so well in NY. I bet if Gaborik was still there but AV was the coach, he'd be doing as well as he is now with LA.


Anyway, back on-topic : Jagr is back and so are his Postgame Shenanigans with the Media.

You didn't see me posting those arguments on this site because he was a Ranger and the argument was with their fan base not NJs.

Also I must confess I am a first year poster on the HFBoards. Cut my posting teeth on the old NHL.com. Like it here a lot better. Much more hockey talk and a lot less childish BS, hate talk, and trolling.

 

[glenwo2]

You didn't see me posting those arguments on this site because he was a Ranger and the argument was with their fan base not NJs.

Also I must confess I am a first year poster on the HFBoards. Cut my posting teeth on the old NHL.com. Like it here a lot better. Much more hockey talk and a lot less childish BS, hate talk, and trolling.

Welcome aboard, sir.


We here are a much more mature group(for the most part).

 

[SeidoN]

and a lot less childish BS, hate talk, and trolling.

give it time

 

[Richer's Ghost]

give it time

beat me to it. lol

 

[MichaelJ]

Maybe Lou can fleece the 'Nucks again. They have a LW prospect who scored for them at season's end who skates well and has a great shot (and loves to take it) and a nose for the net. He'll be 22 at the start of next season. He was the new darling of the Canucks fan base. He's still got some growing to do on the D learning curve (got into the Torts dog house for a couple blind blue line backhand passes), but would really benefit from Jag's set-ups and be a positive addition to the PP. Nicklas Jensen.

He played very well with Sedin as his center. The veteran guidance was absorbed like a sponge. Jagr would provide even better guidance as he loves to teach and his work ethic would also be absorbed. Just a thought, but the kid was a #1 selection for Vancouver and is really starting to show his worth.

Before the deadline Canucks fans on HF were interested in a deal built around Jensen-Ryder. I wonder if the last few months have changed things.

 

[devilsblood]

Jensen has been very unproductive as a pro, both in the AHL and in the NHL(actually not terrible NHL #'s). This year for the Utica Comets he posted 15 goals and only 6 assists in 54 games. Last year in the A, 2 goals 2 assists in 20 games.

But if we could get him for Ryder? I'm in.

 

[Wingman77]

Masterton finalist

 

[Devils Trap]

Masterton finalist

Which IMO Moore deserves..... Jagr shouldnt win it over him

 

[tycobb]

I think you are SEVERELY underrating Fayne. part of Greene being so good is because of his stability with Fayne.

Crazy how overrated Fayne has become on this board.

 

[Devils Trap]

Crazy how overrated Fayne has become on this board.

I think you are under rating him alot

Him and Greene are money.. I give Fayne 3.5 - 4 million per year to keep him..

 

[devilsblood]

In an effort to maintain thread integrity, I'm gonna post my Fayne thoughts in the General discussion.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Jensen has been very unproductive as a pro, both in the AHL and in the NHL(actually not terrible NHL #'s). This year for the Utica Comets he posted 15 goals and only 6 assists in 54 games. Last year in the A, 2 goals 2 assists in 20 games.

But if we could get him for Ryder? I'm in.

Jensen's numbers are misleading. He started the AHL season recovering from a shoulder injury. He went 25 games with no goals and a couple over a stretch after that. Then he scored the next 13 in a short span (like maybe 20 games). Then he finished the Canucks season of 17 games where he was a factor on most nights playing with Sedin. Then made a couple bone head rookie forced passes that resulted in goals against and went into Torts' dog house i.e. benched for the remainder of the game and then demoted to the 4th line with no playmakers. When moved back up in the lineup he stood out once again.

So basically he finished the last 37 games with 16 goals and 12 assists or 28 points in 37 games split between the AHL and the NHL. That comes out to at least 60 points over 82 games without JJ as a linemate. Not bad for a 21 year-old kid. It's likely his game is starting to fall in line. He also learned in the NHL that you have to pass the puck to get the puck. JJ is king in that respect. Give him the puck and break to open space and the puck will be on your stick. He needs a LW and this kid just might be that little known diamond in the rough that Lou was so good in finding in years past..

He was 21 years old (just turned 22 in March) and this was the young Swede's first full pro season in North America. He is loaded with skills and maybe a little too much confidence in himself that seems to be tempered by a mature playmaking linemate. He caught fire in the AHL when the Comets acquired and teamed him up with with AHL veteran centerman Cal O'Reilly. Then in Vancouver with Henrik Sedin. He is not a do it yourself, take the puck, and beat everyone for a highlight reel goal. He's a goal scoring shooter (not quite a sniper yet, but on the way) that looks for the set up. There is none better in the business to tutor a young upstart and we know there is none better at putting the puck on a mate's stick than JJ. His assist total would have been much higher last season if the guys he set up could put the puck in the net, a problem NJ has suffered miserably for the last few seasons.

Jensen for Ryder would probably be a good risk. All trades are risks, but the age difference here would be a real plus and so would the salary hit.

 

[MichaelJ]

If we could get him for just Ryder, would you make him the 2nd J on a JZJ line? I'm sure Jagr would help his game but it seems that he needs a playmaking center as well.

Given what I've said about Josefson and a willingness to try a young gun in the LW position next to Zajac, I'd take Jensen over him in a heartbeat and bump JJ to the bottom6.

 

[Wingman77]

Which IMO Moore deserves..... Jagr shouldnt win it over him

Yea without a doubt

I wasn't aware of much of the detail about Moore's situation until that E60 segment last week and it gave me a whole new respect for him

 

[NC107*]

Which IMO Moore deserves..... Jagr shouldnt win it over him

Why?

 

[devilsblood]

If we could get him for just Ryder, would you make him the 2nd J on a JZJ line? I'm sure Jagr would help his game but it seems that he needs a playmaking center as well.

Given what I've said about Josefson and a willingness to try a young gun in the LW position next to Zajac, I'd take Jensen over him in a heartbeat and bump JJ to the bottom6.

Jensen is actually less accomplished then JJ. He's AHL #'s make one question why he was even with the big club, let alone the top line.

 

[Wingman77]

Why?

http://vimeo.com/92867833

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

Jensen has been very unproductive as a pro, both in the AHL and in the NHL(actually not terrible NHL #'s). This year for the Utica Comets he posted 15 goals and only 6 assists in 54 games. Last year in the A, 2 goals 2 assists in 20 games.

But if we could get him for Ryder? I'm in.

Jensen has 21 goals in 80 career AHL games. Wouldn't call that "very unproductive".

 

[Devils Trap]

http://vimeo.com/92867833

Would be an absolute joke if Jagr won it over him