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I may be against the norm, but I don't think he's been that good since his scratch.
He's been more physical which is sweet, but still fumbles the puck a lot.
He has more confidence which has less to do with him but more to do with the team playing with more confidence (same goes for Weirchioch).
Still an ok young Dman with upside who is worth keeping
 
It's not just the injury my friend, it's like he had a new brain out there. But ya, the injury seems to be a nonfactor anymore by the looks of things.
Amazing what some confidence can do...

This isn't directed at you but personally I would like to see people ease up on the term "hockey IQ" because for the most part we just don't know why a player is struggling. It is just so overused...
 
Amazing what some confidence can do...

This isn't directed at you but personally I would like to see people ease up on the term "hockey IQ" because for the most part we just don't know why a player is struggling. It is just so overused...

Oh I agree.

I was one of the defendants of Cowen because I couldn't fathom how a guy who was PRAISED for his IQ as a prospect and during his rookie year... become his downfall a couple years after.

IQ needs to be observed in context. Looked like he had plenty of it tonight.
 
Best thing about Cowen's game since coming back is that he's kept it simple for the most part. Had a bad pinch here or there but thats him. If he can keep it simple like he has, made guys pay physically and make some good pinches, then he'll easily stay in the line up.
 
It's hard to explain how happy I am that he really stepped up his game from last year. I knew he could do it and finally he's starting to get confidence back and making those simple plays and small things that he used to do. It feels good to see him back this way, it seemed like it was so far away that we wouldn't see him play with confidence again. By the 40 game mark if he continues like this, Our defense will be in really good shape! Him and Borowiecki
Have been great
 
Am I the only one discouraged by the fact Borowieki looks better than Cowen. Although Boro is 25 and despite less NHL games I feel he is more of a veteran than Cowen.

Damn though those few shifts when Cowen does get involved offensively and uses his reach to defend the puck he does look like Chara
 
Am I the only one discouraged by the fact Borowieki looks better than Cowen. Although Boro is 25 and despite less NHL games I feel he is more of a veteran than Cowen.

Damn though those few shifts when Cowen does get involved offensively and uses his reach to defend the puck he does look like Chara

Borowiecki is a solid dman. There's no point comparing as they've had different situations over the past years( injuries, underperforming). Borowiecki doesn't look like a rookie, he's playing with confidence and already a big part of our team.
 
Borowiecki is a solid dman. There's no point comparing as they've had different situations over the past years( injuries, underperforming). Borowiecki doesn't look like a rookie, he's playing with confidence and already a big part of our team.

No point comparing? You do realize when Boro brings the same thing to the table as Cowen and out performs him for a fraction of the price, management is going to compare the two
 
No point comparing? You do realize when Boro brings the same thing to the table as Cowen and out performs him for a fraction of the price, management is going to compare the two

Cowen had a shift tonight where he managed three shots and dangled with the puck in the Wild end. I like Boro, but he will never, ever do that.

That's what Cowen's ceiling is potentially. He has the ability to play the dependable, physical game but also provide some much needed offense as well.

They are not comparable. Management knows that because no late round pick would get the chances that Cowen has.
 
Am I the only one discouraged by the fact Borowieki looks better than Cowen. Although Boro is 25 and despite less NHL games I feel he is more of a veteran than Cowen.

Damn though those few shifts when Cowen does get involved offensively and uses his reach to defend the puck he does look like Chara

In a lot of ways, Borowiecki is a veteran, he's played a leadership role on a highly competitive team for 3 years and played the same role in college puck. You don't necessarily need to be in the NHL to be a pro and Borowiecki is a perfect example of that.
 
Hats off to the coaching staff for handling him in a way that got him back. He was great last night all over the ice. THAT'S what we thought we had in him before that injury. SOOOOOO glad to see it on display last night.

I thought all our D were pretty good last night.
 
Hats off to the coaching staff for handling him in a way that got him back. He was great last night all over the ice. THAT'S what we thought we had in him before that injury. SOOOOOO glad to see it on display last night.

I thought all our D were pretty good last night.

Cowen needs the coaching staff to help him get his confidence back. IMO that's his biggest obstacle, he can play as long as he can keep his head out of his own way. As well, this is a team that struggles with defensive zone coverage, and I find Jared is very aggressive and often the defensive coverage is slow on switches and he ends up looking terrible but it's not always just him.
 
i think he was set up for a better year when he came in a noticeably better skater. his agility, speed, and pivots were better, but his decision making, confidence, and positioning weren't great. he sits, gets to see the game from above, gets to look at some video, work on things on practice, gets some solid coaching time, and gets his confidence back et voila.

hope he keeps it up!
 
I think he had his best game in the last two years last night. He played really, really well and I've never been a big fan. Would like to see him gain some confidence from this recent string of decent to good performances and keep it up.
 
Best thing about Cowen's game since coming back is that he's kept it simple for the most part. Had a bad pinch here or there but thats him. If he can keep it simple like he has, made guys pay physically and make some good pinches, then he'll easily stay in the line up.

Weird because I thought the opposite. He tried to keep it simple before the scratch and looked terrible icing and giving away the puck without much pressure. After the scratch he actually started to pinch more and became much more patient with the puck under pressure in his own zone.
 
Sooooooooo nice.
Cowen looked like the Cowen from 2 years ago last night and has been getting better every game the last little while.
Played a hard game in his own end, quick feet - a little mean.
Nice offensive touch, and moved the puck quickly and confidently.

He was borderline dominant at times last night.
This and more is what he can be, he is not a "stay at home guy" or a guy who needs to "keep it simple". When he is on, and what he can be is a 200 foot defenceman with a high end all around game.

He should do nothing but watch Larry Robinson videos.
 
In a lot of ways, Borowiecki is a veteran, he's played a leadership role on a highly competitive team for 3 years and played the same role in college puck. You don't necessarily need to be in the NHL to be a pro and Borowiecki is a perfect example of that.

He's also got the advantage of having played a ton of minutes in Binghamton in the last few years.

I'm a big fan of Borowiecki's game. I could see this guy carve himself out a Ken Daneyko type career here (that would be amazing). Not necessarily a top defenseman on the team but a huge part of the leadership group and attitude of the team. They've even got similar size and style. With the hometown kid made good story I could see the organization wanting to keep him here for good.

He'll also be a large part of replacing the toughness and grit we're going to lose when Neil eventually retires.

I don't see the need or usefulness in comparing him to Cowen. I see both as important pieces of the team in the future.

That being said, if this team is going to become a contender we need Cowen to play to his potential which is that of a top 2 defenseman.
 
Oh I agree.

I was one of the defendants of Cowen because I couldn't fathom how a guy who was PRAISED for his IQ as a prospect and during his rookie year... become his downfall a couple years after.

IQ needs to be observed in context. Looked like he had plenty of it tonight.

A lot of people do not know what they are viewing and or saying when they talk about hockey IQ.
 
Sooooooooo nice.
Cowen looked like the Cowen from 2 years ago last night and has been getting better every game the last little while.
Played a hard game in his own end, quick feet - a little mean.
Nice offensive touch, and moved the puck quickly and confidently.

He was borderline dominant at times last night.
This and more is what he can be, he is not a "stay at home guy" or a guy who needs to "keep it simple". When he is on, and what he can be is a 200 foot defenceman with a high end all around game.

He should do nothing but watch Larry Robinson videos.

Sometimes to get back into form it is best to go back to basics. Simple works for most players. I mean look at Karlsson last night. He gave up the puck in the offensive zone and instead of watching, he busted arse to get back into the play. Go back to what got you there. Go simple and then build off that.
 
The thing that bothered me the most was people trying to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him. Didn't matter what we got in return as long as he was off the team. It was very short termed, mindless thinking.
 
I was in a 400 level box last night and watched Cowen really closely all game. I was super impressed with his game and I'm usually really hard on him. Even saw some offensive stuff that I was afraid died from his game. Hopefully he has a few more games like last night.
 
It was fascinating hearing Darren Dreger last night mention that Ottawa management sees Cowen as too 'offensive minded' to be paired with Karlsson any longer. They now prefer pairing Karlsson with a player on his final NHL contract, or a marginal NHLer in Phillips and Borowiecki respectively.

For an 'offensive minded' defenseman, Cowen averages 16 points per 82. He's over two full seasons in, and has spent half of that time paired with the best offensive minded defenseman on the planet.

Career stay at home defenseman Chris Phillips has averaged 20 points per 82 over 1100+ games, roughly maintaining that pace give or take 5 points since the beginning, and certainly not playing alongside a partner of Erik Karlsson's ilk.

Cowen was never a legitimate offensive defensemen, as he never once put up a point a game in junior. His junior stats are very similar to Phillips', in fact. To expect him to flourish offensively in the NHL is foolish and unprecedented.

Should Marc Methot recover and prove worth extending, I'd take a good hard look at moving Cowen. The excuse against doing so when his play had bottomed out was that his value had also bottomed out. Now that it is starting to trend up, and given that Garrioch mentioned that several teams have been interested in Cowen all along, the return could be enticing enough to seriously consider it. Think of the pieces that could be pried from an Edmonton or Colorado.

After all, with Gryba playing excellent shut down defense, and with Borowiecki playing well defensively and excellent physically, Cowen could become management's ace up the sleeve in negotiations if he continues to play consistent defensively.
 
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