Waived: James Neal | Clears

[shoop]

1.9 M cap hit for 4 years--ugly.

That's why I think there is zero chance Neal gets bought out.

Those four year buyouts kill you. The Oilers are still penalized for Benoit Pouliot ffs.

The team can afford one more year of full Neal. It would be better to trade him to Nashville with $2.75 million retained than to buy him out.

 

[MoontoScott]

That's why I think there is zero chance Neal gets bought out.

Those four year buyouts kill you. The Oilers are still penalized for Benoit Pouliot ffs.

The team can afford one more year of full Neal. It would be better to trade him to Nashville with $2.75 million retained than to buy him out.

Some good points but why would Nashville want him if they think he's done as I suspect most of the league does?

 

[Heavy Dee]

Some good points but why would Nashville want him if they think he's done as I suspect most of the league does?

They must have a bad one we can take back... Johannsen?

 

[MoontoScott]

They must have a bad one we can take back... Johannsen?

I think your post is in jest but if the Oilers took on that contract then the "Fire Holland" thread might become a reality.

It incredible how Johannsen was able to get that type of money from the Preds. WTF were they thinking? Must have been too many nights in the city's juke halls.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Alright, sure. Turris next.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Alright, sure. Turris next.

We don't want Turris on the top powerplay.

 

[shoop]

Some good points but why would Nashville want him if they think he's done as I suspect most of the league does?

I don't understand your question. Of course wherever Neal is traded the team would have to want him.

Nashville is the most likely destination. He was apparently well-liked when he played for Nashville.

This deal could definitely work. The Oilers retain $2.75M and the deal could work. A fan favourite playing his final two years with the Predators? Why not. He is still a 25 to 35 points a year guy. For $3 million a season that isn't terrible.

The Predators have four forwards entering the final year of their contracts in 2021-22 in the $1.5 million to $2.3 million range.

Say the Oilers take on one of the forwards at $2 million for example. The Oilers save $1 million the first year and $3 million the second year. The Predators get Neal for $1 million and then $3 million. Two years at $2 million aav isn't bad.

I have no idea about the Nashville roster other than salary so am unsure if any of those forwards would fit. But Neal is not impossible to trade. Better cap management than buying him out for sure.

 

[MoontoScott]

Speaking of the Preds, I see Josi listed as 8 years remaining at a cap hit of 9M per year and he is already 30 years of age. Is this a misprint?? If not then why are these GM's bent on economic hell?

When you are in business you never know what next year will bring never mind this kind of time frame.

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

Best hope for Neal is that the Oilers can swing an arrangement with Seattle before the expansion draft. Vegas made a ton of these deals and it could be as simple as paying a price to get Seattle to take Neal. Is a guaranty of getting Jones enough? If I'm Seattle, I'd want more - something like Jones and a 2022 2nd and 2023 4th for Vegas to select Neal.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Speaking of the Preds, I see Josi listed as 8 years remaining at a cap hit of 9M per year and he is already 30 years of age. Is this a misprint?? If not then why are these GM's bent on economic hell?

When you are in business you never know what next year will bring never mind this kind of time frame.

He's one of the best dmen in the game, and likely plays well into his mid-late 30's. I don't see it as a problem. Unless he fell off a cliff this year and I've been unaware?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Speaking of the Preds, I see Josi listed as 8 years remaining at a cap hit of 9M per year and he is already 30 years of age. Is this a misprint?? If not then why are these GM's bent on economic hell?

When you are in business you never know what next year will bring never mind this kind of time frame.

D who are consistently top 5/10 get paid.

 

[Brown Cat]

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I think your post is in jest but if the Oilers took on that contract then the "Fire Holland" thread might become a reality.

It incredible how Johannsen was able to get that type of money from the Preds. WTF were they thinking? Must have been too many nights in the city's juke halls.

Remember those Johannsen > Nuge threads? Good times, good times.

 

[Spawn]

That's why I think there is zero chance Neal gets bought out.

Those four year buyouts kill you. The Oilers are still penalized for Benoit Pouliot ffs.

The team can afford one more year of full Neal. It would be better to trade him to Nashville with $2.75 million retained than to buy him out.

I tend to agree buyouts are killer. But Holland hasn't been afraid of them in the past. He bought out the final 2 years of Weiss' contract in Detroit and one of his first moves in Edmonton was buying out the final 2 years of Sekera's contract.

The extra cherry on top with the Neal situation is we've still got that .75M from Lucic that Holland retained. We have to deal with that regardless of what we do with Neal.

 

[Spawn]

I think your post is in jest but if the Oilers took on that contract then the "Fire Holland" thread might become a reality.

It incredible how Johannsen was able to get that type of money from the Preds. WTF were they thinking? Must have been too many nights in the city's juke halls.

In a 2 year span they signed Johansen to $8Mx8, Turris to $6Mx6 and Matt Duchene to $8Mx7.

That is frankly astonishing.

All three are pretty good examples of what not to do with Nuge.

 

[McSuper]

to the taxi squad for a week

Nope . Top pp next game .

 

[MoontoScott]

D who are consistently top 5/10 get paid.

You think he'll still be in that quality range in 5 years? 9M a year?

 

[coopooter]

Speaking of the Preds, I see Josi listed as 8 years remaining at a cap hit of 9M per year and he is already 30 years of age. Is this a misprint?? If not then why are these GM's bent on economic hell?

When you are in business you never know what next year will bring never mind this kind of time frame.

That is hardly the contract that sticks out on the Preds

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Man I hope insanity takes someone and he ends up somewhere else

 

[MoontoScott]

In a 2 year span they signed Johansen to $8Mx8, Turris to $6Mx6 and Matt Duchene to $8Mx7.

That is frankly astonishing.

All three are pretty good examples of what not to do with Nuge.

Agreed-- astonishing is the right term.

Turris at 6*6 and right now he looks like bottom 6 is a compliment? Madness.

 

[MoontoScott]

That is hardly the contract that sticks out on the Preds

Agreed-- at least 4 of them stand out for me.

 

[North]

You think he'll still be in that quality range in 5 years? 9M a year?

It’s not about what are you going to do for me in 5 years. It’s what are you doing for me now and likely to do for a little while longer when it comes to d men like Josi.

 

[nabob]

You think he'll still be in that quality range in 5 years? 9M a year?

Probably still in the top 15-20 in 5 years and he’s easily top 5 right now.

 

[Hynh]

You think he'll still be in that quality range in 5 years? 9M a year?

So what's your plan, let him walk UFA?

 

[Heavy Dee]

I think your post is in jest but if the Oilers took on that contract then the "Fire Holland" thread might become a reality.

It incredible how Johannsen was able to get that type of money from the Preds. WTF were they thinking? Must have been too many nights in the city's juke halls.

I didn't realize it was 8x8....

That trade by Poile for Jones might be one worst ever.

 

[MoontoScott]

I didn't realize it was 8x8....

That trade by Poile for Jones might be one worst ever.

And he's never had huge numbers to warrant a contract nearly that big.