Player Discussion Jake Sanderson (D) PART 3

[Cosmix]

Is it even a cast? Or is it something to keep water from getting on his arm? When I broke my wrist I had to wrap it in a garbage bag when I was showering to keep it dry.

The sunglasses are in a weird spot.

Assen na yo!

Based on my experience, garbage bags don't work very well to keep the water out.

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

That cast is holding his wrist is extension, which is likely protecting some tendons that were worked on.

Even he re-fractured his distal forearm (was it fractured?) they wouldn’t keep his wrist in extension to hold an alignment after the bone has started to heal.

Of course, it could be a weird photo illusion…

 

[JungleBeat]

Sanderson has me hyped after seeing all the bad dmen this postseason.

 

[dumbdick]

This kid is going to be our Duncan Keith.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Anyone know if the latest nhl 22 roster update included him

 

[Micklebot]

This kid is going to be our Duncan Keith.

Took Keith till his mid 20s before he really exploded, but he was a strong two way presence pretty much right away, I think we'll see a similar progression from Sanderson, perhaps a little quicker, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[bicboi64]

This kid is going to be our Duncan Keith.

I want to keep my expectations realistic but its fun to join the hype. Keith lead the Hawks in ice time as a rookie on a d core consisting of Seabrook, Spacek, Aucoin, Byfuglien, Vandermeer, Wiesnewski. Loads of good vet experience, fellow young guys, and some depth defenders. Sure they were second last in their conference, but there was a good mix of defenders there.

I'm hoping Sanderson starts off on the third pairing and is a regular on the 2nd being able to play 20 minutes a night towards the end of the season. Chabot and Zub will eat loads of minutes, and there's enough young guys (Brann/JBD/Thomson) and some vets (Holden/Hamonic) that he can compete with

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This kid is going to be our Duncan Keith.

If Sanderson's ceiling is prime Duncan Keith we are set.. Assuming we don't have Josh Brown or Zaitsev types partnering him and Chabot. Sanderson has the wheels to cover the ice like Keith.
Seabrook was pretty good back in the Hawks hay day. They also had Hjalmarsson, Nick Leddy and Oduya (who could play then)

 

[dumbdick]

I watched a lot of UND games when they were in their run a year ago. He looked like Karlsson at times with his skating and confidence with the puck.

I think a lot of people who are still expecting his draft day profile are going to be shocked when this kid arrives.

To me, he looks way better and way more poised than Chabot did at the same stage, even taking into account Chabot's big showing at his World Juniors.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I can't think of a player comparable for this guy. The rest are pretty easy but Sanderson seems pretty unique. Who are some NHL D men that can skate the whole game and play high level shut down while chipping in offensively?

Meiro Heiskanen is one of the few guys that I think of when I see a future Jake Sanderson. Is that just wishful thinking? I dunno.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Anyone know if the latest nhl 22 roster update included him

Nope. He has to play a game before the NHLPA allows EA to include him.

 

[Sweatred]

I just hope he makes the team out of camp.

 

[bicboi64]

I can't think of a player comparable for this guy. The rest are pretty easy but Sanderson seems pretty unique. Who are some NHL D men that can skate the whole game and play high level shut down while chipping in offensively?

Meiro Heiskanen is one of the few guys that I think of when I see a future Jake Sanderson. Is that just wishful thinking? I dunno.

I was going to say Heiskanan or Spurgeon. Those two are so elite due to their positioning and skating alone, the rest is just icing on the cake.

 

[OccidentalSoothsayer]

110 gp in the last 3 years. That's 110 since he played as a 16 year old. A full season in the NHL is going to be tough on this kid.

 

[Icelevel]

110 gp in the last 3 years. That's 110 since he played as a 16 year old. A full season in the NHL is going to be tough on this kid.

Doubt it. Others have done it. Who do you want to compare him to? Guy is a horse. Anything’s possible though sure.

I can't think of a player comparable for this guy. The rest are pretty easy but Sanderson seems pretty unique. Who are some NHL D men that can skate the whole game and play high level shut down while chipping in offensively?

Meiro Heiskanen is one of the few guys that I think of when I see a future Jake Sanderson. Is that just wishful thinking? I dunno.

Heiskanen can be a giveaway machine. Jake shouldn’t have that issue.

 

[PlayersLtd]

I can't think of a player comparable for this guy. The rest are pretty easy but Sanderson seems pretty unique. Who are some NHL D men that can skate the whole game and play high level shut down while chipping in offensively?

Meiro Heiskanen is one of the few guys that I think of when I see a future Jake Sanderson. Is that just wishful thinking? I dunno.

Call me crazy but a less physical Brent Burns is what I see flashes of.

 

[TeamRenzo]

110 gp in the last 3 years. That's 110 since he played as a 16 year old. A full season in the NHL is going to be tough on this kid.

A full season is tough on anyone

 

[Sweatred]

A full season is tough on anyone

We’re getting a 6th dman who is going to need sheltered minutes to develop in the nhl and probably sees time in the AHL.

I’m hoping for 40+ NHL games next season.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Call me crazy but a less physical Brent Burns is what I see flashes of.

A lil crazy.

Burns was 6 ft 5 beast of pure athleticism and skill with okay hockey iq. He played like he had ADD.


Sanderson is a lot more methodical and structured in his defensive and offensive approach.

We’re getting a 6th dman who is going to need sheltered minutes to develop in the nhl and probably sees time in the AHL.

I’m hoping for 40+ NHL games next season.

Sanderson is going to be our 3rd or 4th best defenceman next year. He's an elite skater with big brains and will outplay a lot of NHLers.

Will probably need 10-15 games to acclimate but If DJ and Dorion play crap in front of him we'll be eliminated from the playoffs in the 1st month again.

He's good enough to play 82 games.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

110 gp in the last 3 years. That's 110 since he played as a 16 year old. A full season in the NHL is going to be tough on this kid.

Yes, the first year is going to be tough on him. It almost always is for college kids. Doubly so as a defenseman learning the NHL game. His rookie season is going to have some noticeable bumps.

But he'll get through it. Kid is going to be a good one for us for a long time.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Call me crazy but a less physical Brent Burns is what I see flashes of.

That's a new one to me. LOL. I'd be OK with that but I don't see it.

Burns is incredibly unreliable defensively; I think Sanderson will end up being a stalwart in that department.

Burns thrived on creativity and free flowing hockey; Sanderson will play a structured game and use his smarts to create some timely offense but won't be the constant threat that a prime Burns was.

As for physicality I think Sanderson will provide about the same amount as Burns but I think it'll be used more effectively.

But maybe I'm just missing something. Either way I'd be thrilled with a prime Burns if that's how it plays out.


As for my own comparison the best I can come up with is a prime Ryan Suter, in terms of style at least.

 

[Sweatred]

A lil crazy.

Burns was 6 ft 5 beast of pure athleticism and skill with okay hockey iq. He played like he had ADD.


Sanderson is a lot more methodical and structured in his defensive and offensive approach.


Sanderson is going to be our 3rd or 4th best defenceman next year. He's an elite skater with big brains and will outplay a lot of NHLers.

Will probably need 10-15 games to acclimate but If DJ and Dorion play crap in front of him we'll be eliminated from the playoffs in the 1st month again.

He's good enough to play 82 games.

Hope so … I’d be shocked if he was more effective than Brann per XMAS. Not an insult … just caution.

 

[Micklebot]

Yes, the first year is going to be tough on him. It almost always is for college kids. Doubly so as a defenseman learning the NHL game. His rookie season is going to have some noticeable bumps.

But he'll get through it. Kid is going to be a good one for us for a long time.

I'm curious about that...

Last few years of high pick college D debuts;

2012: Trouba (19 yrs old) 65 GP, 29 pts, 22:26 TOI
2015: Hannifin (19) 79 GP, 22 pts, 17:54
Werenski (19) 78 GP, 47 pts, 20:55
2016: McAvoy (20) 63 GP, 32 pts, 22:09
2017: Makar (21) 57 GP, 50 pts, 21:01
2019: York (21) 30 GP, 10 pts, 19:05
2020: Sanderson (20) ???

HM to Fox, who wasn't a high pick, but:
2017: Fox (21) 70 GP, 42 pts, 18:54

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Yes, the first year is going to be tough on him. It almost always is for college kids. Doubly so as a defenseman learning the NHL game. His rookie season is going to have some noticeable bumps.

But he'll get through it. Kid is going to be a good one for us for a long time.

He just need a good reliable partner and he'll be fine imo. There are lots of examples of kids coming out of college and succeeding. Every player is different but I believe in Sanderson. Smart. Great skater. Good puck skills. His only hurdle is strength but I think is smarts with his skating will make that hurdle smaller.

 

[aragorn]

Once he gets his first NHL goal he will be fine & progress along with the rest of the team. I expect DJ will bring him along slowly & give him what he can handle & increase accordingly.