Player Discussion Jake Evans (Part II)

[Benstheman]

No thanks at 5 years

Why not??

 

[Deebs]

No thanks at 5 years

Unfortunately, given his age, that's too long. Tough to hand out that length of contract for a 3rd/4th liner. I totally understand why he'd ask for it because it's his last deal but if he isn't willing to move, then we need to walk away. Nothing personal, it's just business

 

[Sorinth]

Obviously he's going to chase the bag. This is his chance to cash in on his career. It's been building up to this point. He's not going to give a "team-friendly deal" -- he's never had a chance to make a not-friendly deal in the first place, it would be insane for him to leave money on the table.

Let him sign with the Kraken or the Islanders for 4.15m a season or whatever it ends up being. I wish him the best. He's always welcome back at 50% retained

I don't think it's automatic that he would chase money, nor is it automatic that other teams are going to give him 4m+. I mean it's not like we are only ones to know that his S% is unsustainably high, every GM is going to look at him career year with a crazy high S% and have the same doubts we all do about what his production will be going forward. The career year is at best adding a few hundred K to his caphit.

My guess is that Evans will care about term more then cap hit. Getting term means more guaranteed dollars, and most players will care about the top line dollar amount more then caphit. And that's doubly so for guys who have had serious injuries in the past, Evans will no doubt have at the back of his mind that it just takes one hit like the Scheifele to end his career and there's no next contract. So securing the max term and as a result highest total contract value is what he'll care about even in the case of trying to chase the bag.

 

[schwang26]

Unfortunately, given his age, that's too long. Tough to hand out that length of contract for a 3rd/4th liner. I totally understand why he'd ask for it because it's his last deal but if he isn't willing to move, then we need to walk away. Nothing personal, it's just business

That puts him at 33? There’s a lot of 3rd and 4th line vets in that neighborhood. Besides, in 2-3 years they probably trade him anyway.

 

[Deebs]

That puts him at 33? There’s a lot of 3rd and 4th line vets in that neighborhood. Besides, in 2-3 years they probably trade him anyway.

If we're trading him in a couple years, then there's definitely no point in signing that type of deal.

 

[schwang26]

If we're trading him in a couple years, then there's definitely no point in signing that type of deal.

Why not? If he’s still capable, teams might want term, especially if it’s reasonable money

 

[Habs Halifax]

Unfortunately, given his age, that's too long. Tough to hand out that length of contract for a 3rd/4th liner. I totally understand why he'd ask for it because it's his last deal but if he isn't willing to move, then we need to walk away. Nothing personal, it's just business

Personally, I am not appose to the 5 year term (age 29-33 is not that bad). My issue is we also have Hage, Beck, and Kapanen and a 3 year term for Evans fits better. It servers two things... Allows us time to evaluate our younger centers and overlaps Demidov's ELC.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Why not??

Because its almost guaranteed that it will end up a bad contract.
Evans turns 29 this summer. So he'll be 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33 years old during that contract. Those are years when players decline.
Furthermore, we have Beck/Kapanen who will need that opportunity at 3C. So then you'll have Evans making good money playing on the 4th line. The habs will also be low on cap space in the last couple of years of that contract when they have Demidov, Hutson, Laine, Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, etc. making a ton of money. It will make keeping other better players on the roster harder because we have a 4th line center making like 4M.

 

[ahmedou]

Evans career high points: 29

Evans actual points: 25

Only 4 points remaining to tie his career high points

Only 5 points remaining to have a new career high points (30)

 

[Sorinth]

Because its almost guaranteed that it will end up a bad contract.
Evans turns 29 this summer. So he'll be 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33 years old during that contract. Those are years when players decline.
Furthermore, we have Beck/Kapanen who will need that opportunity at 3C. So then you'll have Evans making good money playing on the 4th line. The habs will also be low on cap space in the last couple of years of that contract when they have Demidov, Hutson, Laine, Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, etc. making a ton of money. It will make keeping other better players on the roster harder because we have a 4th line center making like 4M.

If the caphit is kept low by going with those extra years then he would be easily tradeable if Beck/Kapanen ever replace him. It's also a fools game to predict when a player's age will cause a decline, plenty of players and in particular the speedy defensive guys are still at their peak for all their early 30s.

 

[ReHabs]

I don't think it's automatic that he would chase money, nor is it automatic that other teams are going to give him 4m+. I mean it's not like we are only ones to know that his S% is unsustainably high, every GM is going to look at him career year with a crazy high S% and have the same doubts we all do about what his production will be going forward. The career year is at best adding a few hundred K to his caphit.

My guess is that Evans will care about term more then cap hit. Getting term means more guaranteed dollars, and most players will care about the top line dollar amount more then caphit. And that's doubly so for guys who have had serious injuries in the past, Evans will no doubt have at the back of his mind that it just takes one hit like the Scheifele to end his career and there's no next contract. So securing the max term and as a result highest total contract value is what he'll care about even in the case of trying to chase the bag.

The top dollar amount means either a high cap hit, which is bad and a no-go for a bottom6 player with a career high that starts with a 2, or a long contract, which is bad and a no-go for a bottom6 player who is 28 and not particularly fast, big, or tough.

I wish him well in his chasing the bag. Hope the Habs are smart enough to not risk it, and if they do risk it, I hope they're lucky enough it doesn't hurt.

 

[SlafySZN]

If we're trading him in a couple years, then there's definitely no point in signing that type of deal.

Yes, and his value is all time high right now.