Player Discussion Jake Evans (Part II)

[Mrb1p]

I don’t want them to keep Evans at all cost especially depending on his ask for his next contract. Depend also on what they could get for him. But he’s a good stop gap between the younger guys and the present. Some vets are still needed.

We need to keep Evans because Dach is so trash. We can't afford to let him go.

 

[SlafySZN]

We need to keep Evans because Dach is so trash. We can't afford to let him go.

They definitely can let him go and call up Beck. Do they want Beck in the AHL for a complete season is another story, we’ll see.

 

[Mrb1p]

They definitely can let him go and call up Beck. Do they want Beck in the AHL for a complete season is another story, we’ll see.

Ah yes call up Beck, because he's a guarantee to be better like Dach was a guarantee to be better, right?

We need good players not 2nd round picks.

/thread.

 

[SlafySZN]

Ah yes call up Beck, because he's a guarantee to be better like Dach was a guarantee to be better, right?

We need good players not 2nd round picks.

/thread.

You can make that type of comment all you want, they’re not winning this season or on the short term. They’ll decide what they do with him.

Dach and Evans don’t have the same role, btw.

/thread

 

[Mrb1p]

You can make that type of comment all you want, they’re not winning this season or on the short term. They’ll decide what they do with him.

Dach and Evans don’t have the same role, btw.

/thread

Yeah clearly since Dach is an AHL winger right now and Evans is a 4th line C.

It doesn't matter if they're not winning this year, we need to start accumulating roster players and not just futures. Evans is a good one, hes young, he's homegrown and he's not going to get worth a whole lot. All good reasons to keep him around. We're not scorched earth anymore, we're building. Evans is only 3 years older than Suzuki. It's good to have players that grew up together.

 

[Rapala]

Yeah clearly since Dach is an AHL winger right now and Evans is a 4th line C.

It doesn't matter if they're not winning this year, we need to start accumulating roster players and not just futures. Evans is a good one, hes young, he's homegrown and he's not going to get worth a whole lot. All good reasons to keep him around. We're not scorched earth anymore, we're building. Evans is only 3 years older than Suzuki. It's good to have players that grew up together.

Evans is a 4th line center who will want to sign and be paid as a 3C and the average 3C runs anywhere from 3.1M - 4M.
The truth is we might have to bite the bullet on Evans to acquire a 2C which has clearly become far more of an issue at this point.

 

[Mrb1p]

Evans is a 4th line center who will want to sign and be paid as a 3C and the average 3C runs anywhere from 3.1M - 4M.
The truth is we might have to bite the bullet on Evans to acquire a 2C which has clearly become far more of an issue at this point.

He's not gonna ask for 3+ that's crazy he has 100 career points. He's a 2-2.5 range player.

If he wants to be overpaid, sure let him walk, like every other player.

 

[Toene]

He's not gonna ask for 3+ that's crazy he has 100 career points. He's a 2-2.5 range player.

If he wants to be overpaid, sure let him walk, like every other player.

3M is fine for a dependable player like Evans. It's not 2013 anymore, the cap has raised and will do so again sooner than later.

Saw another one of your comments which was about the Habs needing to get to the building phase. Well, he's far from a core building block, but when you have such a dynamic defensive forward who you can consistently count on, it's worth something. Especially at center. 3M salary for a few years will not be the reason why they can't afford something else. Dogshit players like Anderson, Dvorak will be though, inflated contracts like Gallagher, Armia also. With that sad roster, if a generous but fair contract to Evans is what makes your long-term plan crumble, you're in big trouble.

We don't even know if Beck or anyone else in the system will be as reliable as Evans (excellent checker with faceoff ability). The team sucks ass in most defensive metrics and in a situation that somehow couldnt possibly have been foreseen, the youngsters are actually in over their heads or just surviving, and the vets arent leading by example with constant blunders. Evans is one of the "vets" who actually show the way. Hell, I'd take a 3rd line with all Evans clones at the 3 forward positions if I could, it would probably be one of the best defensive lines in the league.

 

[Tyson]

3M is fine for a dependable player like Evans. It's not 2013 anymore, the cap has raised and will do so again sooner than later.

Saw another one of your comments which was about the Habs needing to get to the building phase. Well, he's far from a core building block, but when you have such a dynamic defensive forward who you can consistently count on, it's worth something. Especially at center. 3M salary for a few years will not be the reason why they can't afford something else. Dogshit players like Anderson, Dvorak will be though, inflated contracts like Gallagher, Armia also. With that sad roster, if a generous but fair contract to Evans is what makes your long-term plan crumble, you're in big trouble.

We don't even know if Beck or anyone else in the system will be as reliable as Evans (excellent checker with faceoff ability). The team sucks ass in most defensive metrics and in a situation that somehow couldnt possibly have been foreseen, the youngsters are actually in over their heads or just surviving, and the vets arent leading by example with constant blunders. Evans is one of the "vets" who actually show the way. Hell, I'd take a 3rd line with all Evans clones at the 3 forward positions if I could, it would probably be one of the best defensive lines in the league.

If the Habs paid Evans 3x3 I would be ok with it.
I am a bit weary though of contracts afforded to guys like Byron and Armia that didn't age well.

 

[Goalfield13]

Thank goodness for Jake Evans.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Dach has a season long injury and people call him trash for not being back in top shape 15 games in.

Classic trash fans.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I hope Evans wants to stay , I wouldn't fault him for asking for something we don't want to give him.

 

[Apfel Struble]

He's playing really well this year. Once Laine comes back, I actually think we'll see a Caufield-Evans-Laine second line which is a crap load of talent for Evans to play with. If Dach and Newhook stay at W or can't take his sport as 2C, Evans is going to have himself a 40-50 points season

He's gonna cash in this summer. I expect a 20M contract or even more, something like a 4.25 x 5. I don't think the Habs can afford him at this price though

His reliability, speed and lack of physicality make him better suited for the 2C on the Habs. This is working well too because the bottom 6 is pretty physical at the moment which complements the top 6 relative softness quite well. I think at this point the team needs to string some wins and play sound defence so the 2C spot is pretty much his

 

[Goalfield13]

Dach has a season long injury and people call him trash for not being back in top shape 15 games in.

Classic trash fans.

Dach has a long leash, actually, but he shouldn't be given special treatment. The team goes before the player. Dach will have to figure it out.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Dach has a long leash, actually, but he shouldn't be given special treatment. The team goes before the player. Dach will have to figure it out.

He will, sure. But players take a long time to come back from injury and get their timing back. Judging too early is dumb and potentially damaging if the decoders were to fall for the same trap.

 

[Goalfield13]

He will, sure. But players take a long time to come back from injury and get their timing back. Judging too early is dumb and potentially damaging if the decoders were to fall for the same trap.

He's playing in the top 6, so he is being given every opportunity right now to get back at it. Playing wing also gives him less responsibilities.

 

[tnq]

Evans is UFA and will need to be paid as such and I'm just not sold that he is a starting 3C on a contender. I think ultimately management will be looking for a 1C that will push everyone down a spot and they will have the assets to trade for one if they don't think they have someone internally...

I do actually really like Evans, I just think he is a better fit on a different team. He will have some say in this also. He may want to play somewhere where he can be the 3C... I don't think we can or should promise him that.

The same raison why Bergervin let Danault walk for free

 

[1909]

Evans is playing to get the max for his next contract…. in MTL or elsewhere.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I'd honnestly flip evans at the deadline if he has value, not even kidding. That said I doubt Hughes and Co are gonna get fleeced by evans in negociations , he might just end up walking

 

[417]

Center is the weakest position in the organization, there's just no depth there.

If I'm the Habs, I try to work out an extension for Evans right up until the deadline.

If no deal, then you trade hm.

 

[Ezpz]

Center is the weakest position in the organization, there's just no depth there.

If I'm the Habs, I try to work out an extension for Evans right up until the deadline.

If no deal, then you trade hm.

Kind of important to sign him cause we don't have anyone coming up potentially to play next year except Beck and Kapanen. Both guys probably won't be gifted center spots at the start either. Hage is still years away.

Unless we are actually picking top 3 and get Hagens.

Not a lot of c options in free agency either. Even less when you realize most don't want to sign here.

 

[SlafySZN]

Kind of important to sign him cause we don't have anyone coming up potentially to play next year except Beck and Kapanen. Both guys probably won't be gifted center spots at the start either. Hage is still years away.

Unless we are actually picking top 3 and get Hagens.

Not a lot of c options in free agency either. Even less when you realize most don't want to sign here.

Hage will only play one more year in Michigan. Time goes faster than you think.

 

[Trabdy2]

I think we need to try hard to keep Evans. We're so weak at center right now. Dach and Newhook might not be centers, we're losing Dvorak, and it's not clear if anyone else in our system will be a center for us next year except for maybe Beck?

Too many question marks if we lose Evans.

 

[Saundies]

I think we need to try hard to keep Evans. We're so weak at center right now. Dach and Newhook might not be centers, we're losing Dvorak, and it's not clear if anyone else in our system will be a center for us next year except for maybe Beck?

Too many question marks if we lose Evans.

Keep Evans if he doesn't want too much money. You have to wonder if this is the whole "contract year" effect taking hold as well.

It could be like Lehkonen where he's being put in these positions and succeeding, or it could be like a lot of other guys in contract years where they play out of their minds.

 

[ML16]

Center is the weakest position in the organization, there's just no depth there.

If I'm the Habs, I try to work out an extension for Evans right up until the deadline.

If no deal, then you trade hm.

Exactly! If Evans cannot not re-signed at around 2-3M AAV before TDL*, the Habs should definitely leverage him in a trade; between him and Savard at 50% retention, it should generate at least 2 top-64 picks that should prove very useful in trades for new roster players next offseason.