Player Discussion Jake Evans (Part II)

[The Gr8 Dane]

Of course we should keep evans the question is simply money , no shot we should overpay for bottom 6 guys

 

[morhilane]

Of course we should keep evans the question is simply money , no shot we should overpay for bottom 6 guys

Might be more terms. If the Habs re-sign Evans it's not for long term.

They might even prefer to keep Condotta for the 4th line center job next year.

 

[Redux91]

Might be more terms. If the Habs re-sign Evans it's not for long term.

They might even prefer to keep Condotta for the 4th line center job next year.

OK and I'm all for that, like Condotta on the 4th line a lot,
However Evans is not the 4th line center
And our supposed 2nd line Center is not even playing Center right now
And the 3rd line Center in Dvorak is NOT being brought back next year

So there's really more than enough room for Evans and Condotta (if Luca is even around next year himself lol) next year..
We thought we were deep at C
But we are absolutely not, not right now, and not next year as it stands

I think Jake gets a nice 4 year deal, hopefully not too expensive
But it wouldn't become an albatross kike Gallagher Anderson or armia as he is at least , crucially, a Center

 

[Habssince89]

Trading Evans at the TDL could happen if we're making a different deal to bring in a 2C. If we do that, then Evans becomes expendable. But people are right to point out the lack of depth at C

 

[Rapala]

He will, sure. But players take a long time to come back from injury and get their timing back. Judging too early is dumb and potentially damaging if the decoders were to fall for the same trap.

Let's make one thing perfectly clear. We are heading into game 20 very soon Kirby Dach's issues have nothing to do with timing.
Mobility and confidence are what he is battling and no one can say with certainty when or if he will ever get both back.

 

[morhilane]

OK and I'm all for that, like Condotta on the 4th line a lot,
However Evans is not the 4th line center
And our supposed 2nd line Center is not even playing Center right now
And the 3rd line Center in Dvorak is NOT being brought back next year

So there's really more than enough room for Evans and Condotta (if Luca is even around next year himself lol) next year..
We thought we were deep at C
But we are absolutely not, not right now, and not next year as it stands

I think Jake gets a nice 4 year deal, hopefully not too expensive
But it wouldn't become an albatross kike Gallagher Anderson or armia as he is at least , crucially, a Center

I've seen a lots of pundits saying that Beck will finish the season in Montréal this year and stay (as a middle 6 center). Kapanen was just lacking speed/strength to make it this year.

Suzuki, Condotta, Evans, Beck and Kapanen next season. But I expect Dach to be returned to center before January hits this year.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'd honnestly flip evans at the deadline if he has value, not even kidding. That said I doubt Hughes and Co are gonna get fleeced by evans in negociations , he might just end up walking

What's he realistically going to get you? We'll just have to pay the same thing to acquire another similar player in the future. Cest du classique pelleter par en avant.

Let's make one thing perfectly clear. We are heading into game 20 very soon Kirby Dach's issues have nothing to do with timing.
Mobility and confidence are what he is battling and no one can say with certainty when or if he will ever get both back.

Effort is the main one.

 

[WinterLion]

The same raison why Bergervin let Danault walk for free

Firstly I think Evans should be traded and I think we will get a solid return. Secondly Danault is a way better player than Evans. Not really close.

I'd honnestly flip evans at the deadline if he has value, not even kidding. That said I doubt Hughes and Co are gonna get fleeced by evans in negociations , he might just end up walking

Yes he will be traded... and I'm sure there will be interest. He is a jackknife

 

[Naslund]

Evans will be traded, unless we are in a good position to make the playoffs, which is unlikely.

 

[Rapala]

What's he realistically going to get you? We'll just have to pay the same thing to acquire another similar player in the future. Cest du classique pelleter par en avant.


Effort is the main one.

I don't know about that.

When I see Suzuki put a puck into an area for Dach to go get and he doesn't it's too easy to say lack of effort.
Dach has never shown a lack of effort here in the past.

He's hesitant which for me equates to fear of either A: not getting there in time or B: re-injuring himself.
We went through almost an entire season of Caufield displaying some of the B: tendencies last season.

Fortunately for him it was a shoulder and his skating allowed him to do other things to help the line.
I knew Caufield was back when he separated a Dman from the puck using his body similar to what he did to Draisaitl on Monday night.

As far as Evans goes is he really going to be our 3C on a contending team?

 

[japhi27returns]

I actually think Evans is an interesting piece for a contending team and that there are prob 20 teams that would love to have him play 12-14 mins a night. 25-30 ES points + shutdown + pk is a compelling player in a cap league.

Look at what Edmonton, Washington, Carolina, etc are running after their top 2.

Think Hughes and MSL get that, and he gets resigned. I’d be shocked if they trade a guy that can play all situations for another set of mid round draft picks that we don’t need.

 

[Mrb1p]

I don't know about that.

When I see Suzuki put a puck into an area for Dach to go get and he doesn't it's too easy to say lack of effort.
Dach has never shown a lack of effort here in the past.

He's hesitant which for me equates to fear of either A: not getting there in time or B: re-injuring himself.
We went through almost an entire season of Caufield displaying some of the B: tendencies last season.

Fortunately for him it was a shoulder and his skating allowed him to do other things to help the line.
I knew Caufield was back when he separated a Dman from the puck using his body similar to what he did to Draisaitl on Monday night.

As far as Evans goes is he really going to be our 3C on a contending team?

No matter the reason, it's still effort based. I'm sure he's hesitant to keep his feet moving or what ever. He just needs to want it more and get out of his own head. Just like Anderson last year and Caufield.

Evans isn't a 3C but he's a very good 4C, the fact he's currently our 2C should tell you all you need to know about moving him for a future package. He's young enough to keep around.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Jake Evans, here is your new contract...

 

[EXPOS123]

I actually think Evans is an interesting piece for a contending team and that there are prob 20 teams that would love to have him play 12-14 mins a night. 25-30 ES points + shutdown + pk is a compelling player in a cap league.

Look at what Edmonton, Washington, Carolina, etc are running after their top 2.

Think Hughes and MSL get that, and he gets resigned. I’d be shocked if they trade a guy that can play all situations for another set of mid round draft picks that we don’t need.

Disagree.

I’d rather package him with Savard at the TDL and get back a good young prospect with size

We have enough 3rd/4th line types

 

[Hins77]

I would keep Evans, unless we can have a first round pick. Personnally, I rather keep him as 4th centerman and can play on the third line than anyone else.
Our center line next year
Suzuki / Dach / Newhook / Evans
Everybody should be on their right chair, and thats a good start to build around

Get rid of Armia and Dvorak. I have no problem

 

[japhi27returns]

Disagree.

I’d rather package him with Savard at the TDL and get back a good young prospect with size

We have enough 3rd/4th line types

We have weak depth at C. Sure, if we can get a big, young top 9 C in a package you do it, but good luck with that when you have competitive teams - Edm, Car - running guys lesser than Evans in the same spots.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Jake Evans, here is your new contract...

He's better than Howden, so he'll get even more than that

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

He's better than Howden, so he'll get even more than that

Factor in Jake is a couple of years older, Brett has a cup ring where he played great it’s probably a wash but we will get hit with the Quebec tax so you’re probably right. I don’t go higher than 2.5 and tough to give him 5 years when he will be 3/4C on a contender

 

[Theodore450]

Would be smart to lock him into a solid contract like the Brett Howden one in Vegas.
Hope management is smart about this one and not just gonna assume some prospect will be able to suddenly fill his role. It’s hard to play Centre in the nhl. Assuming Dach could jump in this year and not keeping Monnyhands looks dumb in retrospect. Are they just gonna assume Hage has that spot. Not good risk management. He can play anywhere in the lineup. Developed the right way too.

At the end of this day this is a job. Giving your best and being capable are all that can be asked of you. Find guys that can be and draft well. We never have been able to capture the drafting well.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Doubt he will take 2.5M in a rebuild if he can get more from a contender. Just don't deal him to the Avalanche they are scammers.

 

[Andrei79]

Doubt he will take 2.5M in a rebuild if he can get more from a contender. Just don't deal him to the Avalanche they are scammers.

If they let Evans go, they'll be looking for an Evans on the UFA market. The hope though is that he doesn't have a steep decline, because he's a valuable player playing as he is.

 

[TT1]

i doubt they let Evans go, we need more players like Evans not less, but ya it'll depend on how much he wants

he's definitely a very good player, he has a big impact on the PK/defensively/face offs, plus he can chip in offensively

i can totally see Evans cashing in (as UFA) on his current season (assuming he hits around 35-40 pts) with 7 years + good money, say 4M-4.5M a year, I dunno if MTL would match that but imo it's important to keep players that have grown with the team for culture purposes

my max offer for Evans would be like ~3.5M-4M for 5 years, if you think Evans is gonna accept ~2.5M you'll have a big surprise coming to u

 

[Egresch]

If they let Evans go, they'll be looking for an Evans on the UFA market. The hope though is that he doesn't have a steep decline, because he's a valuable player playing as he is.

We have Suzuki and maybe Dach as right-handed centers, plus we have Kapanen, Beck and Hage who might all be ready next season. They need to find left-handed center because Newhook does not seem like an answer. I really like Jake, but we should move on.

 

[lombrek]

3-4 years at less than 4M max. If he wants more, he can GTFO. Don't fall in love with non-core players.

 

[le_sean]

he's definitely a very good player, he has a big impact on the PK/defensively/face offs, plus he can chip in offensively

Only this year. He was simply serviceable before. It’s an aberration because it’s a contract year. He was nothing special before this season. Good for him in becoming a decent player, but that’s it.