Player Discussion Jake Evans (Part II)

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People will cry next year when no one will be able to win faceoffs in the d-zone and PK will be dreadful. Not only because Danult's departure, but also Weber and Price.
 

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Again, take a look at the whole play on Lehkonen's series winning goal against Vegas. Danault starts out even with the backchecker and ends up more thn 6 feet ahead even whle carrying the puck.

I know which play you're talking about. I still maintain I've never seen him skate like these 2 games in his whole stint as a hab.

I've been here for the dark times. Those when everyone wanted Danault off the team because he was terrible. I'm moderate in my views I think.
 

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As you said, agree to disagree. To me it's clear he's not a fast skater.
This is not an "agree to disagree" kind of thing. If you say the sky is blue and I say green, we cannot just agree to disagree.

You don't like Danault, that's fine, and of course he is not Connor McDavid. He is our fastest center, though. Sky is blue.
 
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I don't think you understand why the Danault line has been effective 5-on-5.

Exactly. I've said before, I think it wold be interesting to see what happened if you put CC on a line with Danault and Gally. They would generate a ton of opportunities and CC would bury a pile of them. He's the perfect match, because he doesn't need to be "fed". He actually feeds off of chaos and O zone events. Plus, CC would get some much ice time on that line he would have tons of opportunities by default.
 

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People will cry next year when no one will be able to win faceoffs in the d-zone and PK will be dreadful. Not only because Danult's departure, but also Weber and Price.

- Not if we're winning.

and if we aren't? ppl cry about just about everything regardless of who we do/don't keep... so :dunno:

byron, evans, lek, armia, chia, edm, suzuki... i think our PK should be fine. Though I'd agree that Price being out will be a big negative impact.

Dzone face offs? all of our C's last year were under 50%. Danault only slighter better than Evans or JKO. Both young guys, and Suzuki, have shown the kind of work ethic and dedication to work on weaknesses, so i wouldn't be surprised in the least if they improved in the faceoff circle this coming season. Non-issue.

the departure (or long term absence) of Danault/Price/Weber, who quite clearly have been our main core impact players, *should* signal a clear and dedicated plan/vision to build around a new core. If MB does that, or makes moves this summer that show that direction, then he'll get support and praise from those fans that want a clear path to cup contention.

Danault isn't a necessary part of that direction. Suzuki/JKO/Evans (Poehling?) have shown enough to be worth taking a gamble on them reaching a level over the next 2-4 years that would give us a great C group to contend with... best part being that they'd all be on relative value contracts.
 
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- Not if we're winning.

and if we aren't? ppl cry about just about everything regardless of who we do/don't keep... so :dunno:

byron, evans, lek, armia, chia, edm, suzuki... i think our PK should be fine. Though I'd agree that Price being out will be a big negative impact.

Dzone face offs? all of our C's last year were under 50%. Danault only slighter better than Evans or JKO. Both young guys, and Suzuki, have shown the kind of work ethic and dedication to work on weaknesses, so i wouldn't be surprised in the least if they improved in the faceoff circle this coming season. Non-issue.

the departure (or long term absence) of Danault/Price/Weber, who quite clearly have been our main core impact players, *should* signal a clear and dedicated plan/vision to build around a new core. If MB does that, or makes moves this summer that show that direction, then he'll get support and praise from those fans that want a clear path to cup contention.

Danault isn't a necessary part of that direction. Suzuki/JKO/Evans (Poehling?) have shown enough to be worth taking a gamble on them reaching a level over the next 2-4 years that would give us a great C group to contend with... best part being that they'd all be on relative value contracts.
Nailed this...especially the bolded.
 

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In a flat cap era I am not convinced he gets over 5 mil per season. He is great defensively but his offense is going to affect his payday
Teams that are just re-building won't pay that kind of money. A team that has championship aspirations might, such as Toronto or Vegas, but do these teams have the cap room for a $5.5M 3rd center?
 

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In a flat cap era I am not convinced he gets over 5 mil per season. He is great defensively but his offense is going to affect his payday

The Barclay Goodrow contract sd suggests we may be coming out of the flat cap era. With the new big lucrative tv deal, it's only a matter of time before the cap rises.
 

26Mats

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Yes, I was wrong. I didn't think there was a GM dumb enough to pay that kind of money to that kind of player. I'm glad MB stayed away.

Also, a lot of poster's were wrong that salaries would still be lower this summer due to covid. The market is pretty much back. See Zach Human's deal, amd all the "number 1" dmen that got 8-9M.

I'm ok with giving Danault 5.5M because he's elite at what he does - shut down the opposition's top lines. Danault at 5.5M over Drouin, Byron, Josh Anderson, and Armia at their salaries.
 

26Mats

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This kid will make us all forget about overpaid phil. Quote me on it. I am so so so high on him

I hope so. I was hoping for a Lehkonen-Danault-Evans shutdown line that would go against the opposition's top offensive lines every night - add give us two versatile centers that could move up and down the lineup in case of injury...
 

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