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Who do you want more: Jack Hughes or Kaapo Kakko?

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CTRanger said:
I think we need to pump the brakes here a little bit. I’ve seen “generational” and “franchise “ player thrown around a lot in this thread. I have not been under the impression that either of these guys are necessarily franchise players let alone generational.

I think they both have legit 1st line PPG upside but are either one really considered to be “franchise” players?

I really HOPE they are, please convince me they are.
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"Generational" gets thrown around wayyy too much. IMO we have 2 generational players in the league - Crosby and Ovechkin. And it's unusual to have 2 so close in age, they're both just so insanely good. McDavid is more or less a lock to be the same but a few more years of production like the last need to come first. I have no doubt he'll do it, but he has to do it first imo.

I very strongly doubt either Hughes or Kakko end up being generational players. That's no slight against them, plenty of phenomenal players haven't earned the label to me.

For "franchise" it's hard to say. It's a very soft term. I'd say a player who scores ppg or so for ~5 seasons is probably safe to call franchise. Either of these guys could be that I guess but I wouldn't bet on it just yet.
 
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Full disclosure here:

Just watching youtube of the two. In no way am I an expert nor does my acumen approach many of our esteemed posters.... but Kakko's combination of size, strength and skill is very impressive. He plays in a men's league. My opinion, but he has advantages over Hughes.

I'd say the number one pick is far from being a lock.

Really prefer Kakko between the two. Just hope he's there for us. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Devils war room.
 
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Pizza said:
Full disclosure here:

Just watching youtube of the two. In no way am I an expert nor does my acumen approach many of our esteemed posters.... but Kakko's combination of size, strength and skill is very impressive. He plays in a men's league. My opinion, but he has advantages over Hughes.

I'd say the number one pick is far from being a lock.

Really prefer Kakko between the two. Just hope he's there for us. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Devils war room.
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It's going to be Hughes. Shero is tight with his folks.
 
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haveandare said:
"Generational" gets thrown around wayyy too much. IMO we have 2 generational players in the league - Crosby and Ovechkin. And it's unusual to have 2 so close in age, they're both just so insanely good. McDavid is more or less a lock to be the same but a few more years of production like the last need to come first. I have no doubt he'll do it, but he has to do it first imo.

I very strongly doubt either Hughes or Kakko end up being generational players. That's no slight against them, plenty of phenomenal players haven't earned the label to me.

For "franchise" it's hard to say. It's a very soft term. I'd say a player who scores ppg or so for ~5 seasons is probably safe to call franchise. Either of these guys could be that I guess but I wouldn't bet on it just yet.
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I think they have legit shots to be franchise players.

I would never use generational for either.
 
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Edge said:
I think they have legit shots to be franchise players.

I would never use generational for either.
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Yeah, I agree. Either could be a franchise player but it's way too early to say they will be with any confidence. Doubt either is generational. I don't think even Kane, Kucherov etc types are generational. It's Crosby and OV from their generation and McDavid alone from the current one.
 
CTRanger said:
I think we need to pump the brakes here a little bit. I’ve seen “generational” and “franchise “ player thrown around a lot in this thread. I have not been under the impression that either of these guys are necessarily franchise players let alone generational.

I think they both have legit 1st line PPG upside but are either one really considered to be “franchise” players?

I really HOPE they are, please convince me they are.
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Generational is way overshooting them both, and is a pet peeve of mine to hear used when not talking about an actual generational guy.

As for Franchise, from what I read leading up to the lottery, I suspect both these guys are bordering on that. I'd expect, on average, one of them probably becomes a franchise player and one becomes a perennial all-star.

e - looks like I should of read ahead before responding.
 
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haveandare said:
Yeah, I agree. Either could be a franchise player but it's way too early to say they will be with any confidence. Doubt either is generational. I don't think even Kane, Kucherov etc types are generational. It's Crosby and OV from their generation and McDavid alone from the current one.
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Karlsson.

The guys in the league right now who deserve to be labeled as generational (at one point or another) are Crosby, OV, McDavid, Karlsson and Lundqvist.
 
Edge said:
I think they have legit shots to be franchise players.

I would never use generational for either.
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Exactly. They're both sure fire locks to become first line talents (60+pts/season) with a fair chance at perennial all star level of play (hovering around PPG) which would = franchise player. Let's hope.

Ppl throwing around generational are, I believe, thinking in the perspective of Rangers history. It's been a few generations since we've had a perennial all star in their prime, let alone drafted one ourselves. Hence it is generational for us. League-wise neither player seems close to 'generational' which is why I believe it's simply a perspective misunderstanding.

God I love having this discussion. JFC can it please be October already?!?
 
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Edge said:
Are we talking reality, or a world where Mantle is healthy?
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Mantle had osteomylytis as a kid; He still put HOF numbers; Switch hitter and NYY fan I pick The Mick

Back to topic, I hope we get Kakko, love his size and scoring ability. If we end up w Hughes I wont be dissapointed, but I hope he becomes Patrick Kane for us
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Karlsson.

The guys in the league right now who deserve to be labeled as generational (at one point or another) are Crosby, OV, McDavid, Karlsson and Lundqvist.
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No to Karlsson and Hank.

Hank is underrated and has had an unbelievable career, with ludicrous numbers in the most important games, but simply being the best goalie of your generation doesn't make you generational. Hasek won 6 out of 8 Vezinas and was head and shoulders above all other goalies at the time. That's generational.
 
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GeorgeKaplan said:
They’re definitely both generational, hardware is a secondary concern
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It's a subjective thing. In my opinion, a player isn't "generational" is just being very good at their position is all it takes. If Hank and Karlsson are, why isn't someone like Kane too?

You look at points scored over huge samples of games and championships, trophies etc and Crosby an OV are very, very clearly on another plane from anyone else. To me, that's generational. Being head and shoulders above the rest of your generation.
 
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