You know that Lafreniere isn't draft-eligible until 2020, right? And that U18 statistics aren't a universal measurement to how good a player or prospect is?Hughes at u18s: 12p in 7 games
Lafreniere at u18s: 6p in 5 games
Lafreniere is so overrated it's not even funny. Hughes is much better.
Only Crosby, PM Bouchard and Esposito have had more points at the same age, since the 2000s as Lafreniere, he's in elite company. He outproduced Mackinnon by three points, eleven more goals.This isn't even close IMO. Hughes is a Matthews/Eichel caliber talent while Lafreniere is not at that level.
So? He's 5 months younger. Indeed, that's less than the 7 it'd be the other way around. What do you want to do then? Compare their u17 stats where both are last-year eligible?You know that Lafreniere isn't draft-eligible until 2020, right?
What I want to do is rank the prospects in comparison to how good they are, and project to be, rather than just statistics.So? He's 4 and a half months younger. What do you want to do then? Compare their u17 stats where both are last-year eligible?
Lafreniere:
6p in 6 games
Hughes:
15p in 6 games
Hughes at u18s: 12p in 7 games
Lafreniere at u18s: 6p in 5 games
Lafreniere is so overrated it's not even funny. Hughes is much better.
Nobody asked who was better at the U17 tournament? The question was, who is the better prospect? Votes are even so i would say they are fairly close.So? He's 5 months younger. Indeed, that's less than the 7 it'd be the other way around. What do you want to do then? Compare their u17 stats where both are last-year eligible?
Lafreniere:
6p in 6 games
Hughes:
15p in 6 games
Or do you perchance suggest that Lafreniere would do better at u17s next year? Too bad, he's no longer eligible then. It'd probably be a good idea for you to take a look at how age groups work.
Hughes. and I don't say this often...but it's not really that close at the moment.
Can Lafreniere be the better pro at the end of the development curve? it's possible. but as of today I'll take Hughes 10 times out of 10.
Oh, now you want to compare same age seasons.What I want to do is rank the prospects in comparison to how good they are, and project to be, rather than just statistics.
IIRC, Teemu Pulkkinen broke all of Ovechkin's U18 stats, and look where he is at age 26 (KHL).
If you're going to utilize statistics, at least be reasonable with them. Compare Lafreniere's 40-goal rookie season, at 16 in the Q, to someone else's. Or Hughes' USHL same-age statistics to a comparable.
I never didn't want to compare same-age seasons. Draft eligibility in 2018 = "same age season", since you want to carryover conversation from an alternative thread.Oh, now you want to compare same age seasons.
gotta love when you see statements like this
Alexis was a top 3 forward in the Q 2 years before his draft year.
But... Lafreniere's first name is Alexis.Lafreniere, at 16 playing vs 20 year olds, led his major junior team in goals and points, when a 20 year old NHL drafted Q veteran was 7 points back, having played 4 more games. Lafreniere was +35, 2nd on his team. These stats are irrefutably elite & prodigous. You cannot say that Lafs is overrated. Also, IMO, I don't think Hughes would have been able to produce at this rate in his draft -2. Even if I were to consider Hughes right now, I'm unsure if he would be able to match/top this production
All that being said, the only knock I have on him is that he's not a centre right now. Can he develop into a centre? Maybe. Even if he stays playing the wing, I'm taking him over Hughes right now. He isn't dramatically better, but I believe that he is indeed better.