Jack Eichel is quietly becoming a top-5 player in the league
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NHL on NBCSN: Eichel looks to keep points streak going vs. Blues
How much of an influence has Eichel’s offensive prowess meant to the Sabres? Half of his 42 points have helped the team tie or take the lead.
“I think more than anything he’s now a leader who understands that sometimes it’s quality over quantity, and he can still concentrate on his game,” said head coach Ralph Krueger. “He’s just been a very natural captain, he’s enjoying it, he’s communicating in a really good, consistent way and he’s very positive in his influence on the team whether we’ve had a good day or a bad, and that’s what we need to continue.”
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Eichel’s maturation as a leader has been very noticeable the last 2 seasons, and especially this year.
From his body language on the ice/bench to his press conferences + interactions with the media, the way he interacts with teammates on the bench (giving pep talks on the bench, going out of his way to try and set up teammates on goal droughts, lots of other little things like that), a much more consistent effort shift to shift, backchecking hard and giving full effort in the d zone, etc etc.
You are seeing maturation in almost every area. I think it had a lot to do with signing that new contract and being awarded the captaincy. You can see he takes his responsibility as captain Very serious.
How much of an influence has Eichel’s offensive prowess meant to the Sabres? Half of his 42 points have helped the team tie or take the lead.
“I think more than anything he’s now a leader who understands that sometimes it’s quality over quantity, and he can still concentrate on his game,” said head coach Ralph Krueger. “He’s just been a very natural captain, he’s enjoying it, he’s communicating in a really good, consistent way and he’s very positive in his influence on the team whether we’ve had a good day or a bad, and that’s what we need to continue.”
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Eichel’s maturation as a leader has been very noticeable the last 2 seasons, and especially this year.
From his body language on the ice/bench to his press conferences + interactions with the media, the way he interacts with teammates on the bench (giving pep talks on the bench, going out of his way to try and set up teammates on goal droughts, lots of other little things like that), a much more consistent effort shift to shift, backchecking hard and giving full effort in the d zone, etc etc.
You are seeing maturation in almost every area. I think it had a lot to do with signing that new contract and being awarded the captaincy. You can see he takes his responsibility as captain Very serious.
I am seriously more and more impressed with Mackinnon each game I watch him in. I can totally see why it appears to a lot of people that they’re in different tiers. I do think Mackinnon is ahead but definitely don’t agree on tiers, if people want to say Mack is as close right now to mcdavid as anyone else that’s probably true. The way they both dominate is different, just as the way they skate. Mackinnon is more explosive and yeah when healthy his company around him is better but he proved he could do this even without. When Eichel steps on the ice the pace of the game changes. The sabres are almost always chasing the play if not. In ways I feel bad for both guys as much as you can feel bad for immensely talented millionaires both guys want to win badly after being in this league for close to half a decade and you see it in there faces, knowing that when you go to sit on the bench you know your team is relying on you so much you can never really feel “at rest.” When shifts are as short as they are and knowing your team counts on you so much, and every time your out there knowing you have to make the most of your time can weigh in on the mind.
I think a lot of people underestimate just how exhausting that can be for star players who don’t have depth lines that score.
The added pressure KNOWING every single time YOU’RE on the ice that you have to be the difference maker whilst constantly staring At either the best shutdown or best talents the other team has.
You do realize if you asked every GM if they’d rather have x player at their age or a 23 year old franchise talent like Eichel as a 1 C, you might get close to half of that list before jack? Maybe. And even if you do guess where that puts eich? Around 10. Which is exactly where you said he wouldn’t be.
Have fun wanting Eichel to be lower while naming today’s Duncan Keith.
You even listed tavares and Matthews, well you just completely wrecked your own argument there because Toronto has both of them and are behind buffalo in the standings who have zero players in your list.
I also notice you picked the forwards in front of Eichel Marchand, Pastrnak, and don’t get me wrong it’s fine but you seem to be giving them credibility for being high in scoring? So why not Eichel? Especially since those two have each other while Eichel is doubling his own linemates in points. You really haven’t watched him play hockey I don’t think. He’s got 23 points alone on a 13 game point streak.
He played like this last year too but a lot of the chances hat are going in now didn’t then. It was only a matter of time because he’s dominated offensive zone possession metrics (and been a top five in shots type player) for he past few years. You can’t keep doing that and not get lucky, other names who do this (Ovechkin, Mackinnon, mcdavid) He’s a top ten forward in this league, and this year has played arguably like a top five player. You can say “absolute joke” all you want but you know at the end of the day you wish this was a joke.
So now that we can’t bash his stats or his skills or even his work ethic we’re gonna start picking “his ability to win games”? A player that has no other guy but him even above 25 points in his team and is in the ice 1/3 of every game. And still has been in on half the goals they’ve scored? Just no logic my friend.
I think a lot of people underestimate just how exhausting that can be for star players who don’t have depth lines that score.
The added pressure KNOWING every single time YOU’RE on the ice that you have to be the difference maker whilst constantly staring At either the best shutdown or best talents the other team has.
You do realize if you asked every GM if they’d rather have x player at their age or a 23 year old franchise talent like Eichel as a 1 C, you might get close to half of that list before jack? Maybe. And even if you do guess where that puts eich? Around 10. Which is exactly where you said he wouldn’t be.
Have fun wanting Eichel to be lower while naming today’s Duncan Keith.
You even listed tavares and Matthews, well you just completely wrecked your own argument there because Toronto has both of them and are behind buffalo in the standings who have zero players in your list.
I also notice you picked the forwards in front of Eichel Marchand, Pastrnak, and don’t get me wrong it’s fine but you seem to be giving them credibility for being high in scoring? So why not Eichel? Especially since those two have each other while Eichel is doubling his own linemates in points. You really haven’t watched him play hockey I don’t think. He’s got 23 points alone on a 13 game point streak.
He played like this last year too but a lot of the chances hat are going in now didn’t then. It was only a matter of time because he’s dominated offensive zone possession metrics (and been a top five in shots type player) for he past few years. You can’t keep doing that and not get lucky, other names who do this (Ovechkin, Mackinnon, mcdavid) He’s a top ten forward in this league, and this year has played arguably like a top five player. You can say “absolute joke” all you want but you know at the end of the day you wish this was a joke.
So now that we can’t bash his stats or his skills or even his work ethic we’re gonna start picking “his ability to win games”? A player that has no other guy but him even above 25 points in his team and is in the ice 1/3 of every game. And still has been in on half the goals they’ve scored? Just no logic my friend.
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Eichel with a goal tonight puts him at a 14 game point streak. Are we ready to have a serious conversation yet?
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And a goal to put Buffalo up in the 3rd. He's not only scoring, he is scoring when it matters most.
He is now 3rd in the NHL in goals. Still 9 behind for the NHL lead but he is on fire.
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We've been having a serious conversation for the past week...outside of "levels" and "tiers" and so and so is better than so and so.
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Two goals tonight, even though one was into an empty net. GWG vs ROR and the champs. Just sayin.
I don't think that is true at all. Regardless, if you are picking a player to start a franchise with, I would have trouble picking 10 players ahead of eichel.
He is pretty easily already a top 10 player in the NHL.
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He's 3rd in goals, and 6th in points as of this post. He's objectively a Top-10 player in the NHL right now, it's a matter of whether he can keep it up for the rest of the season.
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It was just his way of saying “can you doubters stop now?” (Don’t think there are doubters? Read the thread) lol
For instance there isn’t/hasn’t been a thread on this streak at any time (this here is the closest to that) and I’ve talked to a lot of people in the past few days who follow NHL and stats closely that didn’t even know he was on a point streak let alone a 14 game point streak.(now) a lot of people don’t like it, I get it but if some other star north of the border was on just half of that for instance the media would be going wild, or it would make up the bulk of a lot of the top stories and we’d see it lead off every highlight.
I know this because I see this happen all the time up here.
We keep getting told in this thread, “oh he was playing Ottawa.”
Oh he was beating up on Domingue.
The guy had scored a point at least in every game for over a month on every goalie he’s faced. It doesent matter who. He’s always playing the very best every team has to offer and he’s beating everyone, every night. Tonight the champs. The ignorance on him has always been on unbelievable levels but for people to get petty and go “meh there’s a thread” every time someone says “can we have a conversation now” just shows how much people can’t swallow whatever pride/feeling they had. It becomes clear on who wants what with each post.
Good to see him burying these. Others may not agree but I think he was just as good last year. They just didn’t go in. He would dominate games have ten shots on goal, and at least two or three how did he do that “would be” assists if he was on other teams. I mean Every star leaves plenty of points on the table but the amount of chances his teammates weren’t burying last year was criminal. And he still finished with 82 in 77.
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Well, this post didn't age well.
Hell, even the National Broadcast team were calling him a top 5 player in the league, a game changer.
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Do you know Trump is President? ? Jon Snow is alive again? Bruce is known as Caitlyn now.
when your hockey knowledge comes from NHL 15
Just a 14 game point streak, and joining the leagues, elite, a top player in most offensive statistics, yeah no big deal..
And hes not even known for his goals. Crazy he achieved this by December 9th too.
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