Proposal: J.T. Miller to TOR

[ole ole]

No, it is Sandin, Kerfoot, Robertson and a first. The poster does ask for retention.

As i said

 

[Drew311]

The Leafs wouldn’t even consider giving up that package for Miller.

 

[Canuck86]

Toronto has nothing to offer that is of interest, go after a different player

 

[Leaf Fans]

As i said

No, you didn't.

 

[Leaf Fans]

As i said
He's a goal scorer. 13 in 32 doesn't scream goal scorer when you need it.

It is obvious that he is a proven playoff producer though.

 

[settinguptheplay]

Why? Matthews has 24 points in his 32 playoff games. He is a proven playoff producer.

To be fair. 24 points in 32 games for a player carrying an 11.5m cap hit is not all that impressive. 4 points in a 6 game series? Screams "no show" and first round exit. He has yet to impress come playoff time. I have little doubt that he will. Just has not yet.

 

[ole ole]

It is obvious that he is a proven playoff producer though.

Not at his price.

 

[banks]

This thread had reaffirmed the fact that Leafs haters are rampant here on HF.

A top prospect, a 1st rounder, and a talented young defencemen are being called "trash" and "bunch of nothing"?

Saying no because it doesn't fill a need for VAN? Fine, I get that. But half the replies in this thread are just pure Leafs hate.

 

[kanucks25]

I guess I just found out the Brodie is playing 2nd pairing

I meant more market value wise.

I don't think Brodie would demand a "top pairing" type return if he was to be traded.

 

[Donuts]

Keep it simple. Take out everything except leafs 1st and add oel and dickinson

Leafs 1st for oel , dickinson and a free benning

 

[Killer Orcas]

They ain't getting Nylander or Marner lol

One we don't want Marner for same reason he's dumped on by Leafs fans. Second you realize Nylander is only signed 1 season past Miller until UFA? We don't want Nylander either for Miller. Both good players I might add just don't match our needs.

 

[Diamonddog01]

No thank you. Other teams' offers are significantly better.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Not at his price.

Nonsense.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Toronto doesn't even have the pieces to land JT Miller, Any offer they make would easily be beaten by other teams after him.

 

[belair]

am i taking crazy pills here?

a 1st, sandin AND robertson AND KERFOOT for a player we dont need?!

and yet VANCOUVER is the one that should be saying no?!?!

holy hell man I understand that a lot of people here have a hate boner for the leafs but this is just ridiculous! This is in no way at all fair value and if you think that it is there is a reason you post to these forums instead of actually working at a job for an NHL Team.

so youre meaning to tell me that when retained to roughly the same value, a player that is on a 90 point pace is worth the equivalent of 2 1sts and a high 2nd MORE than a player on a 60 point pace???

youre telling me that to get an extra 30 points out of 1 player we should pay our highest rated defensive prospect, a 1st round pick and one of our most highly touted forward prospects?!?

let me make an example of how ridiculous this sounds.

The leafs will trade you TJ Brodie (25% Retained) for Rathbone, Podkolzin, a 1st and Tyler Myers

One of your top 2 forward prospects, your next big defensive prospect, your 1st and a similar but lesser skilled player.

That sound absolutely ridiculous doesn't it?

As someone who dislikes the Canucks, I have to say you're not great at viewing trades from the perspective of the other team. Vancouver has no need for Kerfoot, no need for a small, injury prone forward prospect and little need for a left handed D prospect, regardless of where they're positioned on Toronto's depth chart.

They can find much better offers elsewhere for a player you're severely underrating if you see them as a small upgrade on Kerfoot, a vanilla complimentary scoring winger.

 

[elitepete]

I mean... if this is the best we can get for Miller, I would take it, but I wouldn't be happy about it. Would also try to flip Kerfoot for like a 2nd or something.

Minnesota
NYR
Colorado
Winnipeg
Calgary
St. Louis
Carolina

At least 7 teams interested in him, with Rangers (who have much more/better tradable pieces than Toronto) foaming at the mouth to get him. Canucks management is asking for either 3-4 young pieces or a high end young player like Lafreniere. I'm guessing the price might go down, but to the point where this is what we get?

Also, if the Canucks take a quantity type of package, there has to be a defensive rhd in there somewhere...

 

[BoHorvat 53]

really? its actually hilarious that Canuck fans think this is a bad offer.
I am willing to bet my whole account that by the end of Miller's contract this trade would have been laughable.

Okay. You can keep thinking that. I can understand you don’t know what JT is about, considering he plays on the west coast. With that being said, I wouldn’t be shocked if some (not all) Leafs fans think that a 1st + Sandin + Kerfoot is enough to get someone like even Chychrun (ironically, Canucks are looking for a package similar to what Arizona wants for him).

 

[BoHorvat 53]

As someone who dislikes the Canucks, I have to say you're not great at viewing trades from the perspective of the other team. Vancouver has no need for Kerfoot, no need for a small, injury prone forward prospect and little need for a left handed D prospect, regardless of where they're positioned on Toronto's depth chart.

They can find much better offers elsewhere for a player you're severely underrating if you see them as a small upgrade on Kerfoot, a vanilla complimentary scoring winger.

But Kerfoot! Sandin!!!

 

[Edgelord]

Okay. You can keep thinking that. I can understand you don’t know what JT is about, considering he plays on the west coast. With that being said, I wouldn’t be shocked if some (not all) Leafs fans think that a 1st + Sandin + Kerfoot is enough to get someone like even Chychrun (ironically, Canucks are looking for a package similar to what Arizona wants for him).

ummm thats actually a really good pkg that any actual hockey GM would be all over.
Kerfoot is killing it lately and plays all over our line up and has decent value
Sandin is developing into a solid 2 way D with a bit of an edge, again good value
1st-obv has value

 

[sens13]

Okay. You can keep thinking that. I can understand you don’t know what JT is about, considering he plays on the west coast. With that being said, I wouldn’t be shocked if some (not all) Leafs fans think that a 1st + Sandin + Kerfoot is enough to get someone like even Chychrun (ironically, Canucks are looking for a package similar to what Arizona wants for him).

your 100% right. check there board. 99% of proposals for chychrun were similar to that and a lot for even less.

 

[Edgelord]

But Kerfoot! Sandin!!!

you are obv clueless about Kerfoot and Sandin.

 

[sens13]

ummm thats actually a really good pkg that any actual hockey GM would be all over.
Kerfoot is killing it lately and plays all over our line up and has decent value
Sandin is developing into a solid 2 way D with a bit of an edge, again good value
1st-obv has value

define decent value? I'm sure you leaf fans think he's worth a 1st now but other teams look at more than 30 games.

late 1st, a forward who has 30 good games but was always a #3c before, and a decent d prospect isn't going to get a young #1d. you start this conversation every couple days and then go into hiding

 

[Edgelord]

define decent value? I'm sure you leaf fans think he's worth a 1st now but other teams look at more than 30 games.

late 1st, a forward who has 30 good games but was always a #3c before, and a good d prospect isn't going to get a #1d. you start this conversation every couple days and then go into hiding

IMO to the Leafs, Kerfoot is prob valued more than our own 1st. If we had to go out and buy a guy to do all he does at the same scoring and defence level it would cost us more than a 1st.

 

[sens13]

IMO to the Leafs, Kerfoot is prob valued more than our own 1st. If we had to go out and buy a guy to do all he does at the same scoring and defence level it would cost us more than a 1st.

I get that but other teams are going to look at more than just this season. And other teams would prefer younger player who have shown more consistency.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

They ain't getting Nylander or Marner lol

no one's askin' . but miller isn't goin to be had for a bunch of rubbish pieces you'll not miss. lol

the classic - here's a BUNCH of things i don't care about for one rly good piece. lol

lol