Proposal: J.T. Miller to TOR

[Three On Zero]

i think your head is f****d , first of all kerfoot doesn't have the fancy numbers miller has but he is a well rounded player and would replace miller easily on the canucks lineup, and you want to add first and other players on a trade......

Marner for 2nd, Garland and Podkolzin

sounds silly? Doesn’t it

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Why would the leafs be trading for a forward? A defence man is what they need for the playoffs.

 

[banks]

If you want to blame "Leaf Hate" do you acknowledge that "Leaf Love" might also be an issue in this thread?

For example, you just called Nick Robertson a "top prospect."

Do you think that might be... a little generous in terms of describing him?

I'm not even allowed to love my team now? Do you think only Leafs fans like their own team, or maybe even *gasp* over rate a prospect?

BTW Robertson was rated the Leafs #1 prospect 2 months ago by Sportsnet. And #20 in the entire NHL just last month by The Hockey Writers.

Is "top prospect" really so generous that it's an "issue"?

 

[Ciao]

I'm not really interested in J.T. Miller for the Leafs. They already have better, younger players. The Leafs can't fit him under the cap without significant changes to their roster. They can't afford to re-sign him. He would be past his prime when his contract comes up at the end of next season, and I'm hearing unsubstantiated rumors that he would rather play for an American-based team anyway. So, no thanks.

Maybe the Bruins or the Rangers?

 

[Morgs]

If you want to blame "Leaf Hate" do you acknowledge that "Leaf Love" might also be an issue in this thread?

For example, you just called Nick Robertson a "top prospect."

Do you think that might be... a little generous in terms of describing him?

No? He's a top prospect. Ridiculous d1 season in the OHL, 25th best 19 year old PPG season ever in the AHL (over 20GP), and 13th best since 2010. That while probably being the youngest 19 year old on that list. Every player on that list besides Christian Fischer has turned into a top-6 (or better) player or is still developing.

But I guess your definition of a "top-prospect" is different?

 

[Morgs]

I'm not really interested in J.T. Miller for the Leafs. They already have better, younger players. The Leafs can't fit him under the cap without significant changes to their roster. They can't afford to re-sign him. He would be past his prime when his contract comes up at the end of next season, and I'm hearining unsubstantiated rumors that he would rather play for an American-based team anyway. So, no thanks.

Maybe the Bruins or the Rangers?

JT has been great for the Canucks and if they retain we'd be getting a top-line player for cheap for another season. Easily worth a 1st + solid prospect +. This deal is insane though lol. 2 top-prospects (sandin isn't really a prospect anymore), a 1st and good middle 6 F lol. I expect the Canucks to do well with him, but ya right.

 

[ACC1224]

No? He's a top prospect. Ridiculous d1 season in the OHL, 25th best 19 year old PPG season ever in the AHL (over 20GP), and 13th best since 2010. That while probably being the youngest 19 year old on that list. Every player on that list besides Christian Fischer has turned into a top-6 (or better) player or is still developing.

But I guess your definition of a "top-prospect" is different?

More likely he has no idea who Nick Robertson is and like most forms their opinion on the sweater they wear.

 

[ACC1224]

Marner for 2nd, Garland and Podkolzin

sounds silly? Doesn’t it

Yes comparing Marner to Miller is very silly.

 

[inthe6ix]

We have one JT already, and don't need another.

On the other hand:

Yes please - now let me go find that thread lol

 

[Canadian Canuck]

That is a fact buddy. If traded today the forward points on the Canucks would be:
Kerfoot 31 pts
Boseser 24 pts
Garland 24 pts
Pettersson 24 pts
Horvat 23 pts

Unless his points for the season reset to 0 if he gets traded?

Kerfoot is nothing more than a camp dump. Playing with players who inflate his value does not mean that will translate with the Canucks. No thanks

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Check any source?

Vancouver Canucks 2021-22 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com

Alexander Kerfoot Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Notice how Kerfoot has more points than anyone but JT Miller (who would be traded) and Hughes

You're really missing the point I cant help you

 

[Morgs]

Kerfoot is nothing more than a camp dump. Playing with players who inflate his value does not mean that will translate with the Canucks. No thanks

Do people actually do any research before they write anything? Lmao

 

[Leaf Fans]

Am I missing something about a player becoming our top scoring forward (after deal is done)? Is nylander or marner being included?

Not in the proposal being discussed.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Marner for 2nd, Garland and Podkolzin

sounds silly? Doesn’t it

Yes, really silly.

 

[Cogburn]

Do people actually do any research before they write anything? Lmao

Clearly not, given the premise of this thread and those defending it.

 

[Yackiberg8]

Marner for 2nd, Garland and Podkolzin

sounds silly? Doesn’t it

What’s silly is you comparing apples and oranges.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

You realize this isn’t a real offer to the Canucks organization right?

No way, I totally thought this offer was on the table and we had to accept it, thanks so much for clearing that up for me...........

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

i suppose you want mathews included, have at it hahahah

No just something we actually need, but your hyperbole is hilarious......

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I can't believe that people are saying what they're saying lmao. Robertson & Sandin is already an overpayment. Let alone a good 2W or 3C in Kerfoot and a 1st rounder?

Easy, easy pass.

For the Canucks, yah, it is an easy pass.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Sandin, a 1st, a young forward who would instantly become the Canucks top scoring forward after the trade, and a quality prospect.

No chance I would do this from Leafs perspective.

And leafs fans wonder why other fan's accuse them of not knowing shit about other teams, I give you exhibit A

 

[Yackiberg8]

And leafs fans wonder why other fan's accuse them of not knowing shit about other teams, I give you exhibit A

Please explain.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Please explain.

As has already been explained his numbers are inflated from playing on the leafs.

Kerfoot would not be on the top line here as he really isn't any better then what we have in our top 6 now.

Tanner Pearson would have 30 points on that Leafs team and nobody would call him a top line player.

Calling Kerfoot one "on this Canucks team" based on point totals is disingenuous and completely ignores context.

 

[Yackiberg8]

As has already been explained his numbers are inflated from playing on the leafs.

Kerfoot would not be on the top line here as he really isn't any better then what we have in our top 6 now.

Tanner Pearson would have 30 points on that Leafs team and nobody would call him a top line player.

Calling Kerfoot one "on this Canucks team" based on point totals is disingenuous and completely ignores context.

It is factually true that he would instantly become their leading scorer this season amongst forwards. Nobody said he would be their best forward. Point is he isn’t a nothing piece when he would have the most forward points on your team.

 

[666]

Haven't read the entire thread but I would just like to add that Kerfoot has:
6-24-30 points not counting the PP which he doesn't play much of while Miller has:
10-14-24 points not counting the PP. Miller has 20 PP points and Kerfoot has 1.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

It is factually true that he would instantly become their leading scorer this season amongst forwards. Nobody said he would be their best forward. Point is he isn’t a nothing piece when he would have the most forward points on your team.

Who cares if its factually true given context.

He's throw in on this team and would be completely redundant. We have more than enough middle six guys, which is exactly what Kerfoot is.