Player Discussion Ivan Demidov: Welcome to Montreal

[Matteus]

That's a great question. I think he would be better with Evans and Armia. At least he would be playing with guys who play decent 5 on 5.

Totally agree. Better chance for Demidov to have possession once in a while with those two guys and that's what you want for him.
Try Heineman with Newhook and Laine. Heineman certainly can't hurt them, throws his body around a little and can shake a puck loose here and there.

 

[Hacketts]

Laine & Demidov will have strong games tonight.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Complete nonsense. Gretzky’s team lost to another dynasty. Wasn’t his fault they lost, nor did he change anything to make himself better at winning haha.

Ppl believe this nonsense? Tell me no? There’s more compete in 39 year old ovechkin than nearly everyone on this board. Yet we question the guy putting up 44 goal seasons in 65 games at age 39.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Laine & Demidov will have strong games tonight.

Gonna be hard for Demidov to drag Laine 5 on 5.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

First of all, f*** Ovechkin. Second, he’s 39 years old and scored two goals in the playoffs, whether he’s just being a passenger or not, what he did was the absolute most efficient thing to help his team win. Third, they won, we lost.

I was talking about a career. He has won 1 Cup. Scoring 900 goals doesn't mean he always played to win. Of course he is doing his best to win now and probably since he won a Cup.

 

[Gaud]

You hit the nail on the head here...............open up the ice so Demidov can do his thing, and really vice versa.
Newhook has amazing speed, and if these two can figure out how to give and go, we are in great shape.

Demidov thinks the game, at a high speed......he will create a lot of offense, no matter who is in the middle.
Newhook, at least can keep up with him.......not sure what to think about Laine at this point, but the open ice out there because of Newhook and Demidov, could help Laine be free for better shot selection.

oh god - im not sure Laine has shot selection . I feel like he thinks his shot is so good that it doesnt matter where he stands or who is in the way. It'd be more of a matter of him being left alone more with those other two being covered.

That being said, I heard an interview with Laine being dismissive about Demidov and thought maybe he was concerned about his role being taken over. Then I noticed that Laine actually made plays instead of just shots and actually hit players every game since. He's not much better, because he gives the puck away in shitty situations that could be resolved with a little compete, but its better than otherwise

 

[Hacketts]

Gonna be hard for Demidov to drag Laine 5 on 5.

Laine will play well tonight, and I think Laine started last game pretty good too. He was one of the first forwards that was setting the tone with his physical play.

Let's worry about Newhook winning a faceoff, so Laine & Demidov can actually play with the puck.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Laine will play well tonight, and I think Laine started last game pretty good too. He was one of the first forwards that was setting the tone with his physical play.

Let's worry about Newhook winning a faceoff, so Laine & Demidov can actually play with the puck.

I'm gonna worry about the guy who failed to take a hit to get the puck out and cost us the game.

 

[Hacketts]

I'm gonna worry about the guy who failed to take a hit to get the puck out and cost us the game.

Have faith WTK

 

[WeThreeKings]

Have faith WTK

I will give him another opportunity after the summer, but I am resigned to the fact he's a total liability this year.

 

[overlords]

I'm gonna worry about the guy who failed to take a hit to get the puck out and cost us the game.

just continuing down his kovalev arc

 

[Hacketts]

I will give him another opportunity after the summer, but I am resigned to the fact he's a total liability this year.

I don't disagree that he needs solid offseason worth of work.

At the present tho, they need to play with the puck more tonight. If that can happen, I think will see some good things.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I don't disagree that he needs solid offseason worth of work.

At the present tho, they need to play with the puck more tonight. If that can happen, I think will see some good things.

Playing more with the puck requires doing what's required with it when you have it.. we haven't seen Laine execute that in the regular season and in game 1, it ended the game in OT.

Hope he wakes up and backs up his shit talking but he didn't do that every time he shit talked in the regular season either.

 

[Hacketts]

Playing more with the puck requires doing what's required with it when you have it.. we haven't seen Laine execute that in the regular season and in game 1, it ended the game in OT.

Hope he wakes up and backs up his shit talking but he didn't do that every time he shit talked in the regular season either.

He was awake to start the game, and take away what happened at the end of the game.. he was playing a decent game.

I get that it doesn't mean much when he probably feels responsibility for that L.

Let's see how he builds off it and responds.

 

[Hacketts]

just continuing down his kovalev arc

And how did he respond....

 

[Marioesque]

I'm gonna worry about the guy who failed to take a hit to get the puck out and cost us the game.

Who was that?

Weird revisionist history. Guhle iced the puck

Laine never touched it, because he was interfered with.

If you actually blame that on Laine, you have zero clue what you're watching. He never touched the puck. He never could, because he got a cross check in the back before the puck came to where he was.

Refs made a mistake. I don't blame Guhle for the icing either, the play him and Laine had in mind was the best play available and the only reason it didn't work is because refs let an interference slide, and did NOT waive the icing.

Putting that on Laine who never touched the puck in that scenario is beyond asinine. Just goes to highlight the ridiculous bias. Could just as well put it on someone on the bench.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Who was that?

Weird revisionist history. Guhle iced the puck

Laine never touched it, because he was interfered with.

If you actually blame that on Laine, you have zero clue what you're watching. He never touched the puck. He never could, because he got a cross check in the back before the puck came to where he was.

Refs made a mistake. I don't blame Guhle for the icing either, the play him and Laine had in mind was the best play available and the only reason it didn't work is because refs let an interference slide, and did NOT waive the icing.

Putting that on Laine who never touched the puck in that scenario is beyond asinine. Just goes to highlight the ridiculous bias. Could just as well put it on someone on the bench.

It happened BEFORE the icing. You just can't register when Laine makes a bad play. If Laine takes a hit and gets the puck out, they never have to ice it because they would have successfully exited and changed.

 

[Marioesque]

It happened BEFORE the icing. You just can't register when Laine makes a bad play. If Laine takes a hit and gets the puck out, they never have to ice it because they would have successfully exited and changed.

What happened before the icing?

Laine was skating backwards to gain red line, and once his feet were across it he was going to deflect the puck to the other end. He got his feet there, he was cross checked in the back very, very clearly, before the puck reached him (this should be an interference penalty). Do you need video of it again?

So what did Laine do wrong there? Can you explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.

I can see when he does something good or bad, that wasn't bad at all so why are you pretending it was his fault? Should have resulted in a penalty to caps or a waived icing, or Laine touching the puck if he wasn't interfered with.

There's plenty of REAL stuff to criticize players about, we don't need to invent extra just for some hating reasons. That's not helping anyone.

 

[dauv]

Laine & Demidov will have strong games tonight.

are they playing Fortnite before or after the Washington game?

 

[WeThreeKings]

What happened before the icing?

Laine was skating backwards to gain red line, and once his feet were across it he was going to deflect the puck to the other end. He got his feet there, he was cross checked in the back very, very clearly, before the puck reached him (this should be an interference penalty). Do you need video of it again?

So what did Laine do wrong there? Can you explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.

I can see when he does something good or bad, that wasn't bad at all so why are you pretending it was his fault? Should have resulted in a penalty to caps or a waived icing, or Laine touching the puck if he wasn't interfered with.

There's plenty of REAL stuff to criticize players about, we don't need to invent extra just for some hating reasons. That's not helping anyone.

He had the puck on the boards, and instead of taking a hit to make a hard play on the puck and get it out to relieve the pressure and get a change. He did his patented, shimmy back, avoid contact, throw a soft play on the puck and turned it over to the Capitals.

The Capitals continued their possession in our zone, until the point where they tried to get the tip at the red line and failed.

Laine is constantly soft on the boards, soft on the puck, which is why he turns it over every time he gets the puck there. He's only good with the puck in space. Most of playoff hockey is on the boards.

 

[Marioesque]

He had the puck on the boards, and instead of taking a hit to make a hard play on the puck and get it out to relieve the pressure and get a change. He did his patented, shimmy back, avoid contact, throw a soft play on the puck and turned it over to the Capitals.

The Capitals continued their possession in our zone, until the point where they tried to get the tip at the red line and failed.

Ok I guess? I could not find any clips of the shift that led to the faceoff to verify this. Do you happen to have video of this?

But either way, they got the puck out of the zone so even if the above happened, they were able to get out of zone. That's where the refereeing error comes to play, which leads to the faceoff and the goal essentially.

It's some incredible reaching to put that situation on Laine.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Ok I guess? I could not find any clips of the shift that led to the faceoff to verify this. Do you happen to have video of this?

But either way, they got the puck out of the zone so even if the above happened, they were able to get out of zone. That's where the refereeing error comes to play, which leads to the faceoff and the goal essentially.

It's some incredible reaching to put that situation on Laine.

They weren't.. they 'iced' it and were put right back into their own zone, without being able to change, and our worst defensive line was out there, tired.

They never exited the zone because Laine failed to do so when he had the opportunity to get out, with possession, just by taking a hit and he didn't.

 

[donghabs98]

I don't disagree that he needs solid offseason worth of work.

At the present tho, they need to play with the puck more tonight. If that can happen, I think will see some good things.

I think a full offaeason of rest and a legit 2nd line center will tell us next season if Laine is worth resigning or not. Dach and Newhook aren't ideal centre's in terms of fit with Laine (Dach is slow, Newhook can't generate offense for his linemates and both can't win face-offs to get possession).

 

[Marioesque]

They never exited the zone

Guhle got the puck out of the zone, Laine was interfered with.

because Laine failed to do so when he had the opportunity to get out, with possession, just by taking a hit and he didn't.

Possible of course but I don't currently have a way to verify this. Also very speculative that he would have gotten it out by just taking a hit, if the above scenario happened. You are imagining an alternative, and saying it would have definitely worked better. That's just like...uhhh...your opinion, man.

It is irrelevant. Habs got the puck out, there was a foul play in neutral ice and referees made a mistake.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

What happened before the icing?

Laine was skating backwards to gain red line, and once his feet were across it he was going to deflect the puck to the other end. He got his feet there, he was cross checked in the back very, very clearly, before the puck reached him (this should be an interference penalty). Do you need video of it again?

So what did Laine do wrong there? Can you explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.

I can see when he does something good or bad, that wasn't bad at all so why are you pretending it was his fault? Should have resulted in a penalty to caps or a waived icing, or Laine touching the puck if he wasn't interfered with.

There's plenty of REAL stuff to criticize players about, we don't need to invent extra just for some hating reasons. That's not helping anyone.

Because he will never, ever, let go of the narrative he has already created. Everything is Laine’s fault.