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Player Discussion Ivan Demidov: Welcome to Montreal

TomKosto said:
Mickov has more goals and point in the nhl than Caufield at the same age. Anyway my point was: it’s not because we have a Caufield that we passed on a talent like Michkov.
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It’s not because Michkov is better or worse than Caufield, Hughes views them as filling a similar role, Caufield is signed long term, and getting value comparable to available picks in trade would be unlikely.

The Rangers went BPA for Lafrenière, and ended up with 3 LW who couldn’t really play other positions with no one willing to trade equally.

I’m pretty sure Hughes wants the best player, but he has said he doesn’t want to get guys who won’t fit. If Michkov and Caufield played different styles, or if one were bigger he’d probably have taken Michkov, assuming no other major problem. It may not have been the right move, but Hughes is already dealing with MB’s tendancy to draft and acquire redundant players, so I expect he doesn’t want to add to the problem.
 
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BLONG7 said:
I read that quote on here.............not sure where to find it.
It's ok to agree to disagree with Bobrov or HuGo.......no big deal at all.

I also read he wanted to play in Philly and told teams this, so...........could all be speculation.
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Friedman confirmed that Michkov wanted to be in philly, this isn't news anymore
 
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TomKosto said:
I'm well aware of that bud, have u not read the last couple pages? We been debating on that for a while. The Caufield thing was me responding to someone saying we shouldn't have drafted Michkov because we had Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf and now Demidov. In my mind you always go for the best talent and I'm not sold on Reinbacher being that first righty defenseman. For me, he's gonna be a good 4. And like I said, I really hope I'm wrong, would not be the first time.
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Sorry if I can't engage well, but I think that lamenting the Michkov non-pick is a very boring discussion. We been through this many times, for example many preferred Jeff Carter to Andrei Kostitsyn or David Perron to Max Pacioretty.

I personally find retroactive clairvoyance in drafting to be the most dull kind of posting on these boards. Sometimes people are right sometimes people are wrong which reflects the underlying probabilistic nature of the process.

Reinbacher was a perfectly sensible pick. And that will always true even if he suffers a Juulsen-like trajectory whereby injuries derail his career.
 
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BLONG7 said:
It's coming.........doesn't he lead the habs in hits?? I always come back to he just turned 21 so............
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It may be but the issue is his "hits" aren't really "hits", it's more like he finishes his checks, we need him to hit like guhle or anderson does from time to time to cause a little bit of a chaos in the offensive zone
 
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BLONG7 said:
A-mazing talent...............the kid oozes offence. He can easily be taught good coverage and D. He was a good player in the KHL in both ends of the ice.....
We have been so talent starved for 30 plus years now, it was refreshing to see a kid hit the ice, and steal the show. That said, there may be a few guys on the team, who are gonna struggle with Huston and Demidov and the early on accomplishments.
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None of our guys are very good at defense lol. If they were, it would have been an easy task to dispose of the Hawks after the 2-0 lead.

I couldn't care less if he's good at defense. If he is dynamic on the ice and puts up big numbers, that will benefit the team much more. We've endured 30 years of 200-foot players who couldn't produce when the team needed it.

Look at last night as an example: 5 shifts of Demidov and the rest of the forwards looked very pedestrian, but that kid was levitating off the ice and should have gotten 4 points based on all of the eye-popping passes.
 
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DAChampion said:
Sorry if I can't engage well, but I think that lamenting the Michkov non-pick is a very boring discussion. We been through this many times, for example many preferred Jeff Carter to Andrei Kostitsyn or David Perron to Max Pacioretty.

I personally find retroactive clairvoyance in drafting to be the most dull kind of posting on these boards. Sometimes people are right sometimes people are wrong which reflects the underlying probabilistic nature of the process.

Reinbacher was a perfectly sensible pick. And that will always true even if he suffers a Juulsen-like trajectory whereby injuries derail his career.
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Talking about drafting on a hockey prospect forum is boring, ok bud. Anyway I think there's a way to mute me if u like. I don't want to talk about it over and over again, but you guys keep quoting me, so I will defend my point of view.
 
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OldCraig71 said:
None of our guys are very good at defense lol. If they were, it would have been an easy task to dispose of the Hawks after the 2-0 lead.

I couldn't care less if he's good at defense. If he is dynamic on the ice and puts up big numbers, that will benefit the team much more. We've endured 30 years of 200-foot players who couldn't produce when the team needed it.

Look at last night as an example: 5 shifts of Demidov and the rest of the forwards looked very pedestrian, but that kid was levitating off the ice and should have gotten 4 points based on all of the eye-popping passes.
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For real man, there is quite literally only a focus on defense because there’s nothing else to criticize

People aren’t criticizing Nikita Kucherov’s defensive abilities because they don’t matter
 
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Sasha Orlov said:
For real man, there is quite literally only a focus on defense because there’s nothing else to criticize

People aren’t criticizing Nikita Kucherov’s defensive abilities because they don’t matter
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He was out of gas, a little mistake. Really not a big deal. Without him we woulda lose 3-1.
 
Sasha Orlov said:
For real man, there is quite literally only a focus on defense because there’s nothing else to criticize

People aren’t criticizing Nikita Kucherov’s defensive abilities because they don’t matter
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I don't think @BLONG7 was criticizing his defense, there isn't a mean bone in that mans body. I had read quite a few posts about the "backcheck" and just replied to it. Demidov is going to be fine.
 
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Sasha Orlov said:
For real man, there is quite literally only a focus on defense because there’s nothing else to criticize

People aren’t criticizing Nikita Kucherov’s defensive abilities because they don’t matter
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From what I've seen, he'll be a good defensive player long term.

But he needs to learn how to play D. In addition to not picking up his nan on the Hawks 3rd goal, in 3 on 3 OT he constantly going to the puck Carrier, who we already had someone defending, leaving a Hawk wide open to get a pass and walk in on Monty. Like I said I think he'll correct his defensive coverage in time (hopefully for the playoffs).
 
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My favorite post from the game thread? “He turned Newhook into a sniper!” Lmao!
 
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