Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

[Sasha Orlov]

Go away with this. He scored 48 in 82 right out of the gate. All he needed was a coach who wasn't a complete idiot.

Ok so what’s the problem right now then lmao

All you talk about is pace pace pace, sound like a 2021 Leafs fan

 

[WeThreeKings]

Ok so what’s the problem right now then lmao

All you talk about is pace pace pace, sound like a 2021 Leafs fan

And Michkov in his D2 is pacing to score just under D2 Slafkovsky.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Ok so what’s the problem right now then lmao

I guess the problem is that you don't know what you're talking about.

All you talk about is pace pace pace, sound like a 2021 Leafs fan

Caufield scored 48 in his first 82 under MSL. This is including part of his rookie year. That's not pace, that's actual production.

And we're comparing young players with a short period of history. Of course we're going to discuss pace. How the hell else would we compare them? Moreover, we're going to talk more about pace when a young player has injury issues. When healthy under MSL Caufield produces at a pace of 40+ goals per 82. Those numbers have dipped on two occassions. 1. He did not produce under DD. 2. He did not produce well after his injury for a year. Other than that, he puts up 40+ per 82.

The poster said Michkov is going to be better. Okay, Is Michkov going to do that? It's a tall order and I wouldn't go off saying that this is a sure thing. Caufield (including all games) averages around 35/82. Even that's a tall order for a young player to hit.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

And Michkov in his D2 is pacing to score just under D2 Slafkovsky.

I’m not talking about Michkov just Caufield

I guess the problem is that you don't know what you're talking about.

Caufield scored 48 in his first 82 under MSL. This is including part of his rookie year. That's not pace, that's actual production.

And we're comparing young players with a short period of history. Of course we're going to discuss pace. How the hell would we compare them? Moreover, we're going to talk more about pace when a young player has injury issues. When healthy under MSL Caufield produces at a pace of 40+ goals per 82.

The poster said Michkov is going to be better. Okay, Is Michkov going to do that? It's a tall order and I wouldn't go off saying that this is a sure thing. Caufield (including all games) averages around 35/82. Even that's a tall order for a young player to hit.

Caufields best production was actually 28 in a season and he was healthy, combining multiple seasons and talking pace is mental gymnastics

I don’t even care about Michkov I just don’t get trying to inflate Caufields stats lol

 

[Maitz]

I watched over a dozen games of Michkov this year, I think he will be a threat offensively on the PP but I am not sure he will be more than a 40/40 guy or 80-85 pts that will finish in the minus. I don't get the major hype on him honestly

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Caufields best production was actually 28 in a season and he was healthy, combining multiple seasons and talking pace is mental gymnastics

Don't give me this nonsense. You have to go way out of your way to ignore the circumstances here.

Again, when healthy under MSL the guy averages over 40 goals per 82 games.

I don’t even care about Michkov I just don’t get trying to inflate Caufields stats lol

We're not inflating anything. His numbers don't need inflation. Even if we include his lost half season under DD and his injury riddled season he still averages 35 goals per 82. That's BEST IN LEAGUE for any player in his age group.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Don't give me this nonsense. You have to go way out of your way to ignore the circumstances here.

Again, when healthy under MSL the guy averages over 40 goals per 82 games.

We're not inflating anything. His numbers don't need inflation. Even if we include his lost half season under DD and his injury riddled season he still averages 35 goals per 82. That's BEST IN LEAGUE for any player in his age group.

He has played one 82 game season and scored 28 goals. Under MSL also. You’re discussing his pace over smaller stretches of games, which clearly don’t hold up over an actual 82 game season as he scored 28 in 82.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He has played one 82 game season

Exactly. And that's the only reason he doesn't already have a 40+ goal season. You're being silly here.

If you're going to compare two young players then you look at pace. How the hell else would you do it? It's not like we're comparing Yzerman to Sakic's careers here.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Exactly. And that's the only reason he doesn't already have a 40+ goal season. You're being silly here.

This makes literally no sense in the context of your other posts lol

Anyway this is way off topic

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Caufield,Suzuki and Demi-god would make goaltenders and Defense heads spin

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

This makes literally no sense in the context of your other posts lol

You're talking nonsense and I'm not having it.

Michkov being as good as CC is far from a given. I'm not saying he can't do it but it's a tall order. Again, let me know when you produces at that pace.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I watched over a dozen games of Michkov this year, I think he will be a threat offensively on the PP but I am not sure he will be more than a 40/40 guy or 80-85 pts that will finish in the minus. I don't get the major hype on him honestly

Don't say that too loud. I got absolutely crucified last summer when I pointed out Michkovs deficiencies and said I think Demidov will be better in the NHL because his game is much more translatable.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

I watched over a dozen games of Michkov this year, I think he will be a threat offensively on the PP but I am not sure he will be more than a 40/40 guy or 80-85 pts that will finish in the minus. I don't get the major hype on him honestly

I’m with you, just look at his two goals from yesterday’s game. On both he’s cheating at the blue line and leaving the zone hoping for a turnover and is actually quite lucky the caps coughed up the puck. You could say that it’s great anticipation but not in this case as the caps had full control, like on the 2nd goal where Fehervary actually just falls stepping on the puck after getting a cross ice pass in the slot. I was really upset we didn’t select him but now that I watch him play I’m actually not impressed despite the strong production.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

You're talking nonsense and I'm not having it.

Michkov being as good as CC is far from a given. I'm not saying he can't do it but it's a tall order. Again, let me know when you produces at that pace.

I would add the fact that Caufield actually plays a team game and doesn’t cheat like Mitchkov does. Mitchkov would have to outproduce Cole by a wide margin for both player’s values to be considered comparable.

 

[Deebs]

I would add the fact that Caufield actually plays a team game and doesn’t cheat like Mitchkov does. Mitchkov would have to outproduce Cole by a wide margin for both player’s values to be considered comparable.

In fairness, Cole was like that in the beginning and learned that aspect of the game. MM could as well if he so chooses.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

In fairness, Cole was like that in the beginning and learned that aspect of the game. MM could as well if he so chooses.

Was going to respond the same thing.

In terms of shear talent, MM is a cut above Caufield. The rest is up to him.

 

[HomaridII]

Demidov is no.1 in TSN’s list of the top 50 prospects in the world.

“Montreal fans, buckle up, because this guy is that good”

 

[SpeedyPotato]

In fairness, Cole was like that in the beginning and learned that aspect of the game. MM could as well if he so chooses.

Very fair yes he could, we’ll see!

 

[Ozmodiar]

Demidov is no.1 in TSN’s list of the top 50 prospects in the world.

“Montreal fans, buckle up, because this guy is that good”

Button … what does he know?!

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You're talking nonsense and I'm not having it.

Michkov being as good as CC is far from a given. I'm not saying he can't do it but it's a tall order. Again, let me know when you produces at that pace.

Since MSL took over, Caufield has 102 goals in 219 games (Feb 10th 2022 to today), so @Sasha Orlov can yap away all he wants, but that's litterally a hair (0.47 gpg) under a 40 goal pace (0.49 gpg), but in almost three seasons worth of play.

Michkov isn't nearly as productive in terms of goals so far, but to his credit, he's playing for Torts.

In terms of points, Caufield has 185 in 219 games under MSL, good for a 69 points average over a season.

Ya des croutes à manger, le Miche-Cough

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Demidov is no.1 in TSN’s list of the top 50 prospects in the world.

“Montreal fans, buckle up, because this guy is that good”

They must've been in pain to write that down.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[Rapala]

Btw could someone make a Poll/voting for:

What will be the nickname of Ivan Demidov? Options:

A: Demigod
B: Demidog/Demidawg
C: Dove
D: Demigodsent

Some other options?

Vanya might stick.