Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

[GHJimmy]

Don't see how his IQ can be that much better than Suzuki and Hutson. If it is then he is superstar level.

I think his progression so far is how dynamic he is, when he has the puck it's more of his game than anyone else on the ice, but once he starts passing they're definitely elite.

Suzuki and caufield are smart in their ways and structured in NHL, demidov would make suzuki a 1C by a stretch

 

[Thomas Sowell]

Don't see how his IQ can be that much better than Suzuki and Hutson. If it is then he is superstar level.

He is absolutely a superstar. Yes. As phenomenal as those two are demidov is better. No question about it.

 

[Tyson]

Demidov gives this organization a glimmer of hope.

 

[Kennerback]

Don't see how his IQ can be that much better than Suzuki and Hutson. If it is then he is superstar level.

His IQ is much better than Suzuki’s. Hutson is a D so I won’t insist on this point, it’s apples and oranges. But I can say that Demidov plays a more complex game using more unconventional layer’s than Hutson’s.

 

[Scriptor]

His IQ is much better than Suzuki’s. Hutson is a D so I won’t insist on this point, it’s apples and oranges. But I can say that Demidov plays a more complex game using more unconventional layer’s than Hutson’s.

IMO, while Demidov has all the tools to play as a dynamic C, his ability to get lost on the ice as a winger, only to reappear where the play had been heading all along, is something that would be lost if he played as a pivot.

Playing as a winger doesn't deny him quality pass options which he can exploit from that position s much as he would from a C role.

What I like from watching Demidov's highlights is that he isn't a one or two magic trick pony. Plays seem to develop organically from what is before him and little gets telegraphed, if any. There isn't much repetition and opponents genuinely have absolutely no idea what Demidov is about to do.

Special player.

Habs fans finally get a player worth something special.

 

[Redux91]

Don't see how his IQ can be that much better than Suzuki and Hutson. If it is then he is superstar level.

Wow

If there are other people who think like this
You guys are in for one hell of a treat lol

 

[montreal]

Demidov gives this organization a glimmer of hope.

having watched the Celebrini-Hutson show, I can say that I can not wait to see the Demidov-Hutson show next year, it's going to be epic.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

having watched the Celebrini-Hutson show, I can say that I can not wait to see the Demidov-Hutson show next year, it's going to be epic.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

“Can you feel it? See it? Hear it today? If you can’t then it doesn’t matter anyway! You will never understand it ‘cause it happens too fast…”

 

[26Mats]

I know slaf is up and down right now but the kid is tracking to becoming an ELITE winger in the NHL in a year or two, and I’ve RIPPED on him for a while
Now.

I'm not sure what tracking means.

He has to actually be a good hockey player to be one of the best wingers in the league.

We'll see how good of a power forward he can become.

 

[SlafySZN]

5 parts interview with Ivan

 

[DAChampion]

The dream is Kaprisov/Pastarnak level winger. Habs really need this to happen to break out of these decades of mediocrity.

But then what are Minnesota and Boston missing?

 

[Rafafouille]

But then what are Minnesota and Boston missing?

Minnesota are missing 15 million dollars in salary cap from the Suter and Praise buyouts. Boston were missing nothing. They literally had the best season in NHL history only for Ullmark to completely choke it away for them.

 

[kp61c]

But then what are Minnesota and Boston missing?

kaprizov is not the one to point fingers at. the habs, for example, has no players comparable to him in skill, ainec

 

[Kennerback]

But then what are Minnesota and Boston missing?

McDavid hasn’t won a Cup. Neither has Matthews and others. You need a well balanced team with a top notch supporting cast. Demidov alone would take the Sharks about as far as Celebrini does.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

He is absolutely a superstar. Yes. As phenomenal as those two are demidov is better. No question about it.

Just because he will likely be a better player does not mean that he has a higher IQ. Both Hutson and Suzuki are elite in that regard. Demidov obviously has the better overall skillset and what appears to be a high IQ but to claim that it is definitively better than Suzuki or Hutson is nonsensical if that was the assertion that was being made.

 

[CHwest]

5 parts interview with Ivan

Vanya? Is that like a semi endearment type of term, ie Dougie instead of Doug or something like that?

 

[ReHabs]

Vanya? Is that like a semi endearment type of term, ie Dougie instead of Doug or something like that?

Yes, what else could it be?

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Vanya? Is that like a semi endearment type of term, ie Dougie instead of Doug or something like that?

Yes. Like Sasha is a term of endearment for Alex

 

[HomaridII]

Yes, what else could it be?

All Russian names have a "short version", Vanya is for Ivan. It is not made up, its cultural and known by all for every name. A diminutive or nickname for each name to show affection and warmth. So all "Ivan" are called Vanya.

 

[Habs Halifax]

His IQ is much better than Suzuki’s. Hutson is a D so I won’t insist on this point, it’s apples and oranges. But I can say that Demidov plays a more complex game using more unconventional layer’s than Hutson’s.

All I will say is Demidov appears to have high hockey IQ. I would not compare it to anybody in the NHL yet. The KHL does have a bit more time and space and less physical players than the NHL. Not trying to take anything away from Demidov but he will have to adjust to less time and space and more physical players. Especially on the D side. Those NHL defenseman are very good at what they do. Much better than the KHL IMO.

I have faith Demidov's will power to overcome challenges will prevail. This is a huge area of development and both Caufield and Hutson have it.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

All I will say is Demidov appears to have high hockey IQ. I would not compare it to anybody in the NHL yet. The KHL does have a bit more time and space and less physical players than the NHL. Not trying to take anything away from Demidov but he will have to adjust to less time and space and more physical players. Especially on the D side. Those NHL defenseman are very good at what they do. Much better than the KHL IMO.

I have faith Demidov's will power to overcome challenges will prevail. This is a huge area of development and both Caufield and Hutson have it.

A reasoned and cautionary response.

 

[Habs Halifax]

A reasoned and cautionary response.

Better to play the conservative side than the optimistic side. Demidov will provide an offensive impact no doubt. But he will also have to adjust to less time and space and more physical players at the same time. He's got that "it" factor like Caufield and Hutson. Suzuki didn't have that it factor. He had a great CHL season but developed from the 4th line up once he played NHL games. A very smart player... one of the smartest in the NHL. We would be very lucky if Demidov is as smart as Suzuki but has the it factor like Caufield/Hutson. That would make Demidov a star

We owe it to Demidov and we also owe it to Suzuki to find a very good 2C sooner rather than later. Not sure I like waiting for Hage as our only 2C option. And I'm a big fan of Hage's potential too

The more I think about it, the more I am concerned with the Habs wasting Suzuki prime years like we did with Price. I don't care if it's a Dubois or Horvat type... go get a reliable 2C. We need that more than our top 4RD IMO.

 

[LaP]

All Russian names have a "short version", Vanya is for Ivan. It is not made up, its cultural and known by all for every name. A diminutive or nickname for each name to show affection and warmth. So all "Ivan" are called Vanya.

It's like Bill for William or Bob for Robert.

 

[badfish]

SKA down 3-0 10 mins into first period.