Boston Bruins IV-Rumors, Trade Proposals, Speculation, etc.. (rumors must have recognized source/link)

[ON3M4N]

Ok, what's the DeBrusk deal for Rakell whose only consistency the last few years has been his decline in play? We better be getting a second-rounder or protected prospect.

Regular Season Comparison

Scoring	Goals	Per Game	Point Shares	Adjusted
Player	Tm	Pos	From	To	Active	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	S	S%	TOI	G	A	PTS	S	OPS	DPS	PS	G	A	PTS
Jake Debrusk	BOS	LW	2017	2021	4	214	63	60	123	11	51	45	18	0	14	485	13.0	3300	0.29	0.28	0.57	2.27	9.6	4.4	14.0	70	72	142
Rickard Rakell	ANA	RW/C	2012	2021	9	466	130	160	290	-9	100	102	28	0	26	1146	11.3	7833	0.28	0.34	0.62	2.46	23.2	9.1	32.3	145	192	337

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Playoffs Comparison

Scoring	Goals	Per Game
Player	Tm	Pos	From	To	Active	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	S	S%	TOI	G	A	PTS	S
Jake Debrusk	BOS	LW	2017	2020	3	49	14	9	23	0	20	10	4	0	3	108	13.0	759	0.29	0.18	0.47	2.20
Rickard Rakell	ANA	C/RW	2013	2018	5	46	11	8	19	1	2	9	2	0	1	94	11.7	696	0.24	0.17	0.41	2.04

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Rakell has the better career only because he has over twice the games played as Jake.
DeBrusk is the younger player and slightly better overall stats.

Unless Anaheim adds something interesting we don't win a 1v1 trade.

Look at who Rakell has been playing with. Again his two most common linemates since 2017 are Ryan Getzlaf (talk about declining) and Adam Henrique (who just cleared waivers). Since 2017 at 5v5:

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Look at who Rakell has been playing with. Again his two most common linemates since 2017 are Ryan Getzlaf (talk about declining) and Adam Henrique (who just cleared waivers). Since 2017 at 5v5:

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This is true.
But we are not putting him with Marchand and Pastrnak.
He will be with Krejci and Ritchie most likely. Not sure that is gonna spark some success there.

You kinda have to keep Pasta on the top line so it is still a threat and not just shut down by the other teams best defensive line. Rakell would be Horton-esque but I would ask who plays on the other wing with Krejci.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Right....

but Bobby Stevenson. aka Ryan is 33, and knowing his past history, Oates, as we do... back to his days as a Ducks prospect at 21 in a city like Portland back in the mid 2000s, doesn't really move the needle to what Boston is trying to become up front.

While I don’t disagree with your notion that Sweeney should set his target bigger, I wouldn’t scoff at a Ryan addition. While he’s lost a step or three, he still has a lethal shot/ quick release. And is a smart veteran player who puts himself in scoring lanes in the offensive zone.

I guess the question is do you prefer Bobby Ryan over Bjork or Kase in the playoffs?

 

[Dr Hook]

While I don’t disagree with your notion that Sweeney should set his target bigger, I wouldn’t scoff at a Ryan addition. While he’s lost a step or three, he still has a lethal shot/ quick release. And is a smart veteran player who puts himself in scoring lanes in the offensive zone.

I guess the question is do you prefer Bobby Ryan over Bjork or Kase in the playoffs?

I want Lee Stempniak.

 

[JRull86]

I didn't even realize Dustin Brown was still in the league, let alone a contributer.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

While I don’t disagree with your notion that Sweeney should set his target bigger, I wouldn’t scoff at a Ryan addition. While he’s lost a step or three, he still has a lethal shot/ quick release. And is a smart veteran player who puts himself in scoring lanes in the offensive zone.

I guess the question is do you prefer Bobby Ryan over Bjork or Kase in the playoffs?

I'm just saying had Boston, not Anaheim, developed Ryan.... drafted or otherwise.... we don't have the prospect pool to add a rental this year.... knowing you then have to protect said rental over someone you don't want to leave exposed as we've been discussing here.

knowing Ryan, and his history, as Portland fans do, because we have had the Ducks here as an affiliate, and how Bob Murray handled those moves then... and yes, that includes Getzlaf.

it has nothing to do with Bjork or Kase....

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I said this last week....He does nothing for me. Wood is the guy i want.

so lemme get this straight... a guy who is basically a lock for 25-30 goals does nothing for you, but a guy who has never scored 20 is the guy you want?

maybe if you keep saying it you'll be right eventually

 

[ON3M4N]

This is true.
But we are not putting him with Marchand and Pastrnak.
He will be with Krejci and Ritchie most likely. Not sure that is gonna spark some success there.

You kinda have to keep Pasta on the top line so it is still a threat and not just shut down by the other teams best defensive line. Rakell would be Horton-esque but I would ask who plays on the other wing with Krejci.

The nice thing with Rakell is he can lineup on either side of wing. I wouldn't mind running him out with Krejci and Ritchie. If that doesn't fit, move Smith up and let Rakell play w/ Coyle and Frederic or Coyle and Bjork. Hell move Bjork to 2RW with Krejci/Ritchie and then move Rakell to LW and roll Rakell-Coyle-Smith if you want.

 

[Riley 88]

so lemme get this straight... a guy who is basically a lock for 25-30 goals does nothing for you, but a guy who has never scored 20 is the guy you want?

maybe if you keep saying it you'll be right eventually

Yes...Not even close. I want the guy 6 foot 2 Two hundred pound who hits everything in sight, plays hard on the walls....Crashes the net and causes turnovers with his speed and tenacity.....And can score goals also......I want a guy who an handle the playoff grind.....You can have Palimieri the shrimpy type that disappears come playoff time and is not going to be a physical up and down winger and is also a FA.....

We need to build for the Playoffs....You can keep the shrimpy non physical Palmieri.....I will take Wood and it is not even a question.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

I have a feeling they will not make any moves till after Seattle takes who they want. This is the cheaper - lets see what the kids can do year. This helps them avoid exposing any big name trades or a younger guy they would rather keep.

The 1.5 million from Backes is out of the way next year. If they resign Krech and Rask, perhaps they get them cheaper, maybe down to 6 million each range. Maybe they replace Kuraly with Stud but they need to sign Carlo. The Seattle Kraken Expansion Draft is officially set for July 21, 2021 as per Bob Mac.

If the kids play well enough this also raises the value of them. Before this year most were question marks. It only helps the organization for leverage.

 

[bbfan419]

I could see a few deals the B's make, either they get Ekholm from NSH or like someone mentioned Gio and Bennett from CGY, get one of Palmieri or Rakell whoever is cheaper to acquire and then one more deal, I would like is Tomas Hertl, would be a great fit, he can play LW with Krejci and can also play centre if/when needed.

 

[bbfan419]

The nice thing with Rakell is he can lineup on either side of wing. I wouldn't mind running him out with Krejci and Ritchie. If that doesn't fit, move Smith up and let Rakell play w/ Coyle and Frederic or Coyle and Bjork. Hell move Bjork to 2RW with Krejci/Ritchie and then move Rakell to LW and roll Rakell-Coyle-Smith if you want.

Love getting players that can play multiple positions, it gives the team a lot of different options on how to set their lines and provides depth if needed.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I believe we still have a great two year window for a cup.
I would target Ekholm and Arvidsson. We get a good LD who plays well in the playoffs and finally get our RW who is signed to a good contract.

 

[Kegs]

I think Heiskenan and Makar have higher upsides
than McAvoy. Not by any means significantly
higher but IMO higher.

Makar is one of the best defenders on the planet.

 

[veganbruin]

Looks like I got the Rakell wheels turning. I don’t think he would make us better if we give up DeBrusk in that deal. But everyone’s making me think about Seattle so that makes some sense.

 

[veganbruin]

Makar is one of the best defenders on the planet.

Defenders is misleading. He’s definitely one of the better offensive dmen in the league at a very young age.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Yes...Not even close. I want the guy 6 foot 2 Two hundred pound who hits everything in sight, plays hard on the walls....Crashes the net and causes turnovers with his speed and tenacity.....And can score goals also......I want a guy who an handle the playoff grind.....You can have Palimieri the shrimpy type that disappears come playoff time and is not going to be a physical up and down winger and is also a FA.....

We need to build for the Playoffs....You can keep the shrimpy non physical Palmieri.....I will take Wood and it is not even a question.

Miles Wood has zero nhl playoff points

 

[MattFromFranklin]

So we give up a 1st and Beecher to dump Kase and expose Rakell to Seattle? If we protect Rakell then they take DeBrusk.

Swapping out one inconsistent forward (DeBrusk) for another (Rakell) is not ideal. Neither are players who will be key pieces of a cup winning team. If DeBrusk is going to be dealt, I'd rather deal him for Palmieri. I would expect Sweeney to have an idea if Palmieri would sign an extension.

 

[veganbruin]

Miles Wood has zero nhl playoff points

Shoulda made a push for Wood last year if they wanted him bad enough. He’s having a great year and NJ has no reason to trade him unless we blow them away. We don’t need Miles Wood right now as much as I love the player.

 

[lopey]

I had a ducks fan in the main board agree to
Rakell for 1st + Beecher + Kase back. What do you guys think? I’m not as hot on Beecher as some here, and I no longer care for 1sts knowing Bergy is fading away slowly into the sunset.

Is he the Ducks Gm? That trade is great for us, not so much Ducks

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Yes...Not even close. I want the guy 6 foot 2 Two hundred pound who hits everything in sight, plays hard on the walls....Crashes the net and causes turnovers with his speed and tenacity.....And can score goals also......I want a guy who an handle the playoff grind.....You can have Palimieri the shrimpy type that disappears come playoff time and is not going to be a physical up and down winger and is also a FA.....

We need to build for the Playoffs....You can keep the shrimpy non physical Palmieri.....I will take Wood and it is not even a question.

To the bolded, Miles Wood has 7 hits in 14 games played. That’s literally .5 hits/Gm. Not even a full hit a game. Now last year he had 102 hits in 68 games. That’s 1.5 Hits/Gm. Overall career, he has 350 hits in 282 games. That’s 1.2 Hits/game. I like Wood and would take him easily on this Bruins team but I don’t know where you’re getting this “he hits everything in sight” from. He could do it. He has the size, speed and makeup for it but he doesn’t. Unless the stat counters are not recording his hits.

Since your argument is that Palmieri is not a tough or a hitter, he has 12 more hits than Wood this year, despite playing in one less game. Career wise, Palmieri has 538 hits in 376 games. That’s about 1.4 hits per game. More than Wood averages.

Come playoffs, sample size is tiny for Wood at 5 GP but he has 4 hits in the postseason. Palmieri has 68 in 33 games: 2 Hits/Gm which shows he picks up the physicality come playoffs. He averages 0.39 PPG in the postseason. Wood is pointless thus far.

Both players play with an edge, aren’t afraid to get gritty and muck it up if need be. You’ll get the big hit that you won’t get from Palmieri. That’s where they differ. Wood also the clear advantage in fighting but that’s not something you want come playoffs.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

He might have. Or Danton Heinen is a good player that we should have kept?

I'd rather have Ritchie than Heinen right now.

 

[veganbruin]

I'd rather have Ritchie than Heinen right now.

Yeah your right. Me too.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

He might have. Or Danton Heinen is a good player that we should have kept?

Heinen proved to be a dime a dozen JAG here in Boston. We won that deal, easily.

Heinen, since entering the league, has watched his production continue a steady trend downward; his best year being a rookie season.

Ritchie, for the most part, has actually had an upwards in production. This year having an explosion. Even if this isn’t what he will be for the foreseeable future (I have my doubts he’ll continue this beyond this season) he has proven to be a good 3rd line role player which is what Heinen has only shown in spurts.

 

[yazmybaby]

I didn't even realize Dustin Brown was still in the league, let alone a contributer.

I watched Brown play a few games this year.
He was a step faster, he must have lost a bit of weight and played great.
He must be like a fine wine, getting better with age.
For the right price, I think he helps our team ( 3rd -4th rd pick?)
His contract may make him hard to move for LA?