Confirmed with Link: It's Started! (Management firings)

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Pittsburgh1776

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This is why I don't want him more than anything. Granted, the Penguins don't have this issue to deal with, but I think Dubas caving to the Leafs star players and paying them whatever they wanted has been a massive detriment for the Leafs.

People criticize Hextall for almost losing Malkin, but I'd 100% rather my GM plays hardball with my star players and ends up getting a good deal over my GM caving and giving my star players whatever they want.
Eh, he wasn't playing hardball, he genuinely was going to let Malkin go to FA; there was no communication from Hextall to Malkin in the hours after Geno said he was going to FA, and Hextall admitted he was surprised that Malkin came back to the table and was not sure what prompted it.

FSG should have fired Hextall for how that got mismanaged alone.

I don't envy FSG in their management search, there are so many re-runs. NHL hockey management and coaching is largely just a merry-go-round of the same cast of failures being passed around to new teams/situations in the hope that a change of scenery will lead to success. I'm not interested in anyone that has a long track record to be honest, not unless there is exceptional success within the last 5 years. Who fits that bill?
 

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I would not have been disappointed to see Sullivan move on, but I'm not bothered by him staying. I don't like any coaches that are currently available.
Were you a big fan of Sully when the Pens fired Johnston? He was a nobody, someone that bounced around the league. You don’t keep a coach that’s failed for 6 years because you are afraid of change.

Sully needed to go three years ago.
 

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Nice to see these firings. Nauseating to see ownerhip fawning over Sully and the coaching staff, but one also has to assume that such statements are indicative of nothing and worth less.

Back to hibernation until the mission is accomplished with Sully booted.
 

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I f***ing cannot stand Burke and am so happy he's fired. That dude... I never once heard him talk about the Penguins from a perspective. All i ever heard him bitch about is all the NHL bullshit drama. Never once did I hear him talk about the agenda for the Pens and how we were going to be good. lol. I cannot stand that guy. I am so happy he is fired.
What are you talking about? All he did was sing praises of Mike Sullivan. Three straight years.

With that said, I don't get that hire at all either. Who made that exactly? Mario? The fact that Sullivan remains is more frustrating than Burke and his hockey ops role going around telling reporters Sullivan is a genius and he'll be super mad if they talk mean things about Mike Bylsorella.
 
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Tell us what it says then so nobody buys that crap
Essentially blamed Hextall for players failing vs Sullivan and his usage of McCann, how Sullivan kept playing Carter in all situations, etc.

It's like deflection porn orchestrated by Mike Sullivan's PR Team.

He goes off about Nepotism hire with Ron Hiring his son. Yet apparently ignored the multiple friends being hired by Mario and JR - essentially made the nepotism and favouritism a Hextall problem when it predates him by a few decades.

It's such a disgusting article. It seriously makes me pissed off that this is a team I've been a fan of for this long.
 

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I’m so glad I’ll never have to see that fat slob Hextall and his stupid ass tie representing this team, and the sickly looking Ron Hextall pretend he knows a god damn thing about the sport.

Just the sight of these two disgusted me.

I suspect tubby gets a job in the media, but you won’t be hearing much about sleepy ever again. If he can even land a job, it’ll be something behind the scenes.
 
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I’m so glad I’ll never have to see that fat slob Hextall and his stupid ass tie around PPG Paints arena and the sickly looking Ron Hextall pretend he knows a god damn thing about the game he’s watching.

Just the sight of these two disgusted me.

I suspect tubby gets a job in the media, but you won’t be hearing much about sleepy again.

Man dude... they were just bad at this job.

They didn't kill your dog Pens Wick... :)
 

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Man dude... they were just bad at this job.

They didn't kill your dog Pens Wick...
Nah, Hextall set this team back years. Burke just stole from this team by collecting a paycheck for almost three years. We owed Sid and Geno more than Ron f***ing Hextall. Hextall was more than just bad.
 

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I like the report that said Pryor was the guy who really pushed for Hextall to get Granlund. :laugh: Kick rocks, idiot.

Hextall’s legacy as Pens GM will be akin to Scaredy Squirrel.

I touched on this last summer and the Malkin Maniacs got all bent, but Hextall never wanted him back.

Yet he never had the courage to follow his own vision for this team and let the fans incessant whining force him into keeping the Get Along Gang together.

That milquetoast attitude was his undoing.
 
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Hextall’s legacy as Pens GM will be akin to Scaredy Squirrel.

I touched on this last summer and the Malkin Maniacs got all bent, but Hextall never wanted him back.

Yet he never had the courage to follow his own vision for this team and let the fans incessant whining force him into keeping the Get Along Gang together.
Yea it really sucked having a point per game 2nd line center again.
 
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Lol

So in addition to Hextall’s kid working for the Pens, Pryor’s kid also works for the team. Pryor’s son is the head of amateur scouting, sleepy junior is a development coach.

A tad awkward to say the least. At least Hextall hired the best talent out there for front office and coaching jobs, am I right?

You can’t make this stuff up. What an absolute clown.
 
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Mr Jiggyfly

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Please articulate Hextall's vision for this team. It's one thing to lack courage to follow it, but I want to know what this vision was.

He wanted to rebuild, but most fans don’t want to hear that.

So now we get this mess because he tried to follow a plan he never wanted to do. This is what it looks when a GM just wings it and doesn’t believe in what he was doing.

Can’t say I feel badly for him though, because when you don’t stand up for what you believe, you reap what you sow.
 
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He wanted to rebuild, but most fans don’t want to hear that.

So now we get this mess because he tried to follow a plan he never wanted to do.

Can’t say I feel badly for him though, because when you don’t stand up for what you believe, you reap what you sow.
I mean, no one in Penguins ownership (old or current) supported that, so why on earth was he hired?
 
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Dope.

How’s that keep the Get Along Gang thing been going?
Not bad aside from goaltending last couple years. But there’s no point in even engaging in somebody who thinks the Pens should have torn it down to the studs already.
 

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I mean, no one in Penguins ownership (old or current) supported that, so why on earth was he hired?

He was hired with the impossible task of winning a cup while stocking the prospect cupboards.

He had new leadership come in and didn’t present a detailed vision to them about what he truly believed (rebuild).

He caved and didn’t stand up for what he felt was best.

So again, being cowardly got him what he deserves.

Not bad aside from goaltending last couple years. But there’s no point in even engaging in somebody who thinks the Pens should have torn it down to the studs already.

Not bad? No playoff wins in 5 years.

Stay in denial.
 

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I mean, no one in Penguins ownership (old or current) supported that, so why on earth was he hired?
Because it's a myth. He didn't want to rebuild, he just was totally open to not having Malkin back. He would have replaced him with Trochek or Copp or something and tried to win again. If he really wanted to rebuild he wouldn't have gone all 4D chess to bring in Petry and then later Granlund.

Hextall did not want to rebuild, he wasn't brought in to rebuild. His image of what a good team is sucks, his pro scouting is terrible, and that's why he was fired. The whole "he just wanted to rebuild this whole time" is national hockey media talking point trying to not shit on a league executive and to give a justification for why he made inexplicable moves.
 
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